Crusader Kings II: I desperately want to be cucked by Satan

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The General: Mar 4, 2007

Leb posted:

So wait, is the CKII announcement over? What the hell did we actually get?

A story driven narrative, evolving around events of Charlemagne. Also you can customize your kingdoms somehow. :jerkbag:

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Empress Theonora: Feb 19, 2001; She was a sword glinting in the depths of night, a lance of light piercing the darkness. There would be no mistakes this time.

Anybody feel like actually summarizing what was announced, or is everyone too busy trying to be the first to post about how uninterested they are?

# ? Aug 14, 2014 20:24

Captain Oblivious: Oct 12, 2007; I'm not like other posters

So does pushing it back a hundred years let me play Druids in Britain yet

# ? Aug 14, 2014 20:25

Rumda: Nov 4, 2009; Moth Lesbian Comrade

Rincewind posted:

Anybody feel like actually summarizing what was announced, or is everyone too busy trying to be the first to post about how uninterested they are?

That is it literally.

# ? Aug 14, 2014 20:25

Tercio: Jan 30, 2003

Rincewind posted:

Anybody feel like actually summarizing what was announced, or is everyone too busy trying to be the first to post about how uninterested they are?

Believe it or not, you've just read the summary on the previous page. That's all there is.

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monster on a stick: Apr 29, 2013

Also Harun Al-Rashid and Ragnar Lodbrok since that fits the timing.

Still it sounds like Paradox either seems not to get that people like the interpersonal stuff/color or they are intentionally leaving that to the modders.

# ? Aug 14, 2014 20:26

Averrences: May 3, 2008

Rincewind posted:

Anybody feel like actually summarizing what was announced, or is everyone too busy trying to be the first to post about how uninterested they are?

Nobodies joking - the Ckii announcement was literally

-100 extra years
-CHARLEMAGNE
-customisable kingdoms (with no explanation how this works)

# ? Aug 14, 2014 20:27

The General: Mar 4, 2007

Rincewind posted:

Anybody feel like actually summarizing what was announced, or is everyone too busy trying to be the first to post about how uninterested they are?

They also showed a 30second clip that showed absolutely nothing at all.

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Chalks: Sep 30, 2009

What does customisable kingdoms mean? I imagine there's more to it than "rename a kingdom and pick where it starts" but I have no idea what else it could involve.

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Leb: Jan 15, 2004; Change came to America on November the 4th, 2008, in the form of an unassuming Senator from the state of Illinois.

Rumda posted:

That is it literally.

Is there really not even a "MAJOR patchnotes" blurb or something? I can't find any details beyond the tiny bit they covered in the stream.

# ? Aug 14, 2014 20:28

Rumda: Nov 4, 2009; Moth Lesbian Comrade

Leb posted:

Is there really not even a "MAJOR patchnotes" blurb or something? I can't find any details beyond the tiny bit they covered in the stream.

Nope that's all there is.

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unwantedplatypus: Sep 6, 2012

The General posted:

They also showed a 30second clip that showed absolutely nothing at all.

Le Big Blue Blob

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DStecks: Feb 6, 2012

Chalks posted:

What does customisable kingdoms mean?

That's the million-dollar question.

If it means something like "King and empire level titles get unique "traits" like characters do", that would be loving cool.

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lenoon: Jan 7, 2010

Fuligin posted:

"King of the perennial holly-groves, the riven sandstone: overlord of the M5: architect of the historic rampart and ditch, the citadel at Tamworth, the summer hermitage in Holy Cross: guardian of the Welsh Bridge and the Iron Bridge: contractor to the desirable new estates: saltmaster: moneychanger: commissioner for oaths: martyrologist: the friend of Charlemagne."

I really like this. Think there's scope for a mod about Britain in the same vein as the post-apoc US one?

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Gorn Myson: Aug 8, 2007

The press conference just seemed to be there to say "oh yeah, this is a thing", so I guess we'll get some actual information in the next couple of days.

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Kainser: Apr 27, 2010; O'er the sea from the north
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at the helm stands Loki
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The General posted:

They also showed a 30second clip that showed absolutely nothing at all.

Uh, it showed us the magnificent SAXON and VISIGOTHIC cultures

e; and yeah, I'm sure we'll get real information on their forums soon.

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Toningly: Sep 28, 2006

I'm going to guess that customizable kingdoms means you can make a titular kingdom when you have a couple of duchies

# ? Aug 14, 2014 20:32

Gorn Myson: Aug 8, 2007

As it stands with the information we have right now, I'm not that impressed. I'm quite happy with the lay of the land in CK2 right now, I just want more depth to what we already have rather than just continually expanding the map and the timeline.

# ? Aug 14, 2014 20:33

Tomn: Aug 23, 2007; And the angel said unto him
"Stop hitting yourself. Stop hitting yourself."
But lo he could not. For the angel was hitting him with his own hands

DStecks posted:

That's the million-dollar question.

Hey, let's try to figure out ways this might be good so that we can have our hopes properly raised and dashed later. Here's my go.

"Customizable kingdoms" means that kingdoms and empires can now have their own unique forms of laws and quirks. Remember how the Byzantine Empire can revoke ducal titles for free because it's the Byzantine Empire? Like that, but expanded. A system of different relationships between vassals and lieges beyond simply how many men they're supposed to contribute, much like our current succession laws, will be put into place. You can have anything from the organized governments of the Byzantine Empire where rulers are imperially-appointed governors, more traditional feudal relations like the French kingdoms, to the decentralized and barely-contained chaos of the Holy Roman Empire. The great blobs are no longer distinguished solely by their name, color, religion and dynasty - they now fundamentally differ in how they operate internally.

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monster on a stick: Apr 29, 2013

DStecks posted:

That's the million-dollar question.

My completely uneducated guess would be that you aren't reliant on historical kingdoms anymore - perhaps once you have enough land/de jure duchies, you can declare yourself King. I can't see this being worth $20.

Really if they were going to turn back the clock, turn it back to :redhammer:

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paranoid randroid: Mar 4, 2007

-Fixed special unit bug.
-Introduced new bug where all special units now appear as rebel light infantry.

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Raserys: Aug 22, 2011; IT'S YA BOY

I'd be stunned if that's really all they've got at $20, I doubt that's it.

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unwantedplatypus: Sep 6, 2012

Tomn posted:

Hey, let's try to figure out ways this might be good so that we can have our hopes properly raised and dashed later. Here's my go.

"Customizable kingdoms" means that kingdoms and empires can now have their own unique forms of laws and quirks. Remember how the Byzantine Empire can revoke ducal titles for free because it's the Byzantine Empire? Like that, but expanded. A system of different relationships between vassals and lieges beyond simply how many men they're supposed to contribute, much like our current succession laws, will be put into place. You can have anything from the organized governments of the Byzantine Empire where rulers are imperially-appointed governors, more traditional feudal relations like the French kingdoms, to the decentralized and barely-contained chaos of the Holy Roman Empire. The great blobs are no longer distinguished solely by their name, color, religion and dynasty - they now fundamentally differ in how they operate internally.

Yeah, I'm just going to assume it means custom names, flags, and colors.

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Rumda: Nov 4, 2009; Moth Lesbian Comrade

Tomn posted:

Hey, let's try to figure out ways this might be good so that we can have our hopes properly raised and dashed later. Here's my go.

"Customizable kingdoms" means that kingdoms and empires can now have their own unique forms of laws and quirks. Remember how the Byzantine Empire can revoke ducal titles for free because it's the Byzantine Empire? Like that, but expanded. A system of different relationships between vassals and lieges beyond simply how many men they're supposed to contribute, much like our current succession laws, will be put into place. You can have anything from the organized governments of the Byzantine Empire where rulers are imperially-appointed governors, more traditional feudal relations like the French kingdoms, to the decentralized and barely-contained chaos of the Holy Roman Empire. The great blobs are no longer distinguished solely by their name, color, religion and dynasty - they now fundamentally differ in how they operate internally.

I hope that's the case and they just through Charlemagne over the top to market it but I'm not hopeful.

# ? Aug 14, 2014 20:35

Tomn: Aug 23, 2007; And the angel said unto him
"Stop hitting yourself. Stop hitting yourself."
But lo he could not. For the angel was hitting him with his own hands

unwantedplatypus posted:

Yeah, I'm just going to assume it means custom names, flags, and colors.

You're probably right. :negative:

I just want more internal politics, is that so much to ask?

# ? Aug 14, 2014 20:36

Rumda: Nov 4, 2009; Moth Lesbian Comrade

unwantedplatypus posted:

Yeah, I'm just going to assume it means custom names, flags, and colors.

We have that already though.

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unwantedplatypus: Sep 6, 2012

Tomn posted:

You're probably right.

I just want more internal politics, is that so much to ask?

Cynicism, don't say anyone was ever disappointed by it.

edit: ^^^ I forgot about that DLC. Well then maybe there is something substantial.

unwantedplatypus fucked around with this message at 20:40 on Aug 14, 2014

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Frohman: Aug 14, 2014

Sam. posted:

The beta is out!

After the End 0.1
0.1.1 patch (fixes faction and religion bugs)
If you're seeing Caribbean/Tuskegean characters without faces, get the African Portraits DLC or delete interface/portraits_african.gfx.

Thanks to Ofaloaf and Klonself for all their hard work.

Question for Sam or anyone else involved in "After The End" mod.

My name is Chris Livingston, and I write a weekly mod column for PC Gamer. I'd like to feature the beta of this mod for my column this weekend.

I wouldn't normally ask first, but I wanted to check with someone in this instance since:

a) The dropbox has apparently been overwhelmed by traffic
b) I haven't seen this beta posted elsewhere, like in the Steam workshop, moddb, or the Paradox forums, so I'm not sure if you want the general public playing it yet

I'd have PM'd someone if I saw a way to do that, but I don't. Anyway, please let me know! I've covered a bunch of different full-conversion CKII mods and this one looks really interesting.

# ? Aug 14, 2014 20:38

Luigi Thirty: Apr 30, 2006; Emergency confection port.

Leb posted:

Is there really not even a "MAJOR patchnotes" blurb or something? I can't find any details beyond the tiny bit they covered in the stream.

Yeah, they said "and lots of neat stuff for free to everyone like always" but didn't elaborate at all.

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Leb: Jan 15, 2004; Change came to America on November the 4th, 2008, in the form of an unassuming Senator from the state of Illinois.

Luigi Thirty posted:

Yeah, they said "and lots of neat stuff for free to everyone like always" but didn't elaborate at all.

Well, I'm not even mad, but I think it's time to wrap up the CKII DLC after this and go into full preproduction on CKIII.

And also Rome II, obviously.

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Entropia: Nov 18, 2012; Can't post for 10 years!

The Custard Kingdom.

i think there might be some hilarity to this

# ? Aug 14, 2014 20:40

Entropia: Nov 18, 2012; Can't post for 10 years!

Leb posted:

Well, I'm not even mad, but I think it's time to wrap up the CKII DLC after this and go into full preproduction on CKIII.

And also Rome II, obviously.

victoria III and rome II, preferably in that order yes

# ? Aug 14, 2014 20:41

Fuligin: Oct 27, 2010; wait what the fuck??

Tomn posted:

Hey, let's try to figure out ways this might be good so that we can have our hopes properly raised and dashed later. Here's my go.

"Customizable kingdoms" means that kingdoms and empires can now have their own unique forms of laws and quirks. Remember how the Byzantine Empire can revoke ducal titles for free because it's the Byzantine Empire? Like that, but expanded. A system of different relationships between vassals and lieges beyond simply how many men they're supposed to contribute, much like our current succession laws, will be put into place. You can have anything from the organized governments of the Byzantine Empire where rulers are imperially-appointed governors, more traditional feudal relations like the French kingdoms, to the decentralized and barely-contained chaos of the Holy Roman Empire. The great blobs are no longer distinguished solely by their name, color, religion and dynasty - they now fundamentally differ in how they operate internally.

This would be incredible. It also seems like it would possibly justify a $20 price tag in a way the rest of the features don't, so I'm going to pin my hopes to the existence of something akin to it.

I'm also very curious about how a more narratively based Charlemagne campaign could work without handing the player event troops and free casus belli like crazy, as that would be pretty boring. Seems like it might have plenty of applicability for modders at least.

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Fuligin posted:

This would be incredible. It also seems like it would possibly justify a $20 price tag in a way the rest of the features don't, so I'm going to pin my hopes to the existence of something akin to it.

I'm also very curious about how a more narratively based Charlemagne campaign could work without handing the player event troops and free casus belli like crazy, as that would be pretty boring. Seems like it might have plenty of applicability for modders at least.

Charlemagne went to war every campaign season for over 30 successive years. The truce mechanic being 10 years would utterly ruin the rapid expansion he had.

# ? Aug 14, 2014 20:47

Sky Shadowing: Feb 13, 2012; At least we're not the Thalmor (yet)

I'm hype based solely on the price point alone, Paradox hasn't missed on a price point yet. So if they feel it's worth 20 bucks it's probably worth 20.

Eagerly awaiting more info, though.

# ? Aug 14, 2014 20:48

Sindai: Jan 24, 2007; i want to achieve immortality through not dying

Yeah, as usual we're not going to have any idea of the real scope of things until we see the dev diaries.

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Punished Chuck: Dec 27, 2010

So I punched the new start year into one of those historical map sites to see what kind of map setup we can expect, and, uhhhhhhh...
http://geacron.com/home-en/?v=m&lan...d=GeaCron549629

They're really going to have to get creative to balance the Abbasids.

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Deus Rex: Mar 5, 2005

Toningly posted:

I'm going to guess that customizable kingdoms means you can make a titular kingdom when you have a couple of duchies

I want customizable empires so I can have my Celtic Empire dammit :mad:

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onemillionzombies: Apr 27, 2014

More internal politics equals lots of programming, tweaking and time. How about we let you rename your empire instead?

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ninjahedgehog: Feb 17, 2011; It's time to kick the tires and light the fires, Big Bird.

WeaponGradeSadness posted:

So I punched the new start year into one of those historical map sites to see what kind of map setup we can expect, and, uhhhhhhh...
http://geacron.com/home-en/?v=m&lan...d=GeaCron549629

They're really going to have to get creative to balance the Abbasids.

Welp, this site is my new favorite way to waste time.

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