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I'm probably most excited about straight up destroying Roland and Oliver at Roncesvalles and bringing the shahadah to all of the franks. No drat Charlemagne is going to stop the faithful this time.
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Something odd just happened. I was in a faction, the faction fired, and I got called to war. Okay, fine, great. Then within a week the temporary title (to which I was a vassal) suddenly vanished without explanation and I was independent. Except that now I can't declare any wars because I'm in rebellion somehow, even though I'm not at war with my old liege anymore. I think the game just broke.
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CharlestheHammer posted:But there are so many blobs. Its like the 867 start, but somehow worse. If the new starting scenario doesn't have de jure realms outside of the Byzantines, the new blobs may end up simply imploding spectacularly in a way CK2 has never seen before. Combine the lack of de jure CBs to unite the realm with the new two duchies = a kingdom rule, and in the wake of a successful revolt you could end up with a dozen independent new kingdoms throughout Charlemange's empire. That's what I'm hoping for, anyways.
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WilliamAnderson posted:I still want a Theocracy DLC damnit. =( You and me both.
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lenoon posted:I'm probably most excited about straight up destroying Roland and Oliver at Roncesvalles and bringing the shahadah to all of the franks. No drat Charlemagne is going to stop the faithful this time. Excuse me, sir, Roland and Oliver got smashed by the Basques, not the Umayyads. 
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Bel Monte posted:Slightly related, he noticed the African Portraits DLC. "Black people are DLC" - Crusader kings! What an rear end in a top hat. You may have bought some extra black people, but evidently he thinks he should get to own them without paying for them. 
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Aug 15, 2014 11:41
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VerdantSquire posted:So I was playing a count in Siena, and a fellow vassal decided to rise up and try to usurp the duke above me. Since the duke was my brother, I raise my own levies to help my brother win the war, and I ended up winning one of the battles and occupying Siena. Was he pressing your claim on your behalf? I have had wars where I fought for my liege brother against a rebellion to install me on the throne, won, and got imprisoned for being the claimant.
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I love the GoT mod sometimes. Starting off as Ned at the Crowned Stag bookmark: -Stannis got a cold and died childless.  -Robb got murdered by Karstark's wife, I imprisoned her rear end and had Ned give her a few inches off the top in retaliation. -Roose Bolton was an accomplice in the murder, he got booted off to the Wall and succeeded by his idiot trueborn son. -Lacking a male heir, I legitimized Jon Snow and married him to Arianne Martell. -Khal Drogo rolled bad traits and became a wussy weakling. -Viserys committed suicide in exile instead of getting his crown. Gotta love the Lunatic trait.  Unfortunately, Doran got wise to what I was doing and disinherited his daughter so that I couldn't get my grandson the lordship of both the North and Dorne. 
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Bloody Pom posted:I love the GoT mod sometimes. Starting off as Ned at the Crowned Stag bookmark: This is why story driven DLC will likely work.
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AdjectiveNoun posted:Excuse me, sir, Roland and Oliver got smashed by the Basques, not the Umayyads. Meh, whatever. Ain't gonna be no Holy Roman Empire unless it's dedicated to Allah and Muhammed, his prophet, pbuh. Hopefully they take this opportunity to put in a more nuanced developed Catholicism as this early on (even in ToG, actually) the popes control over catholic nations is extremely shoddy. It'll be weird having this more fluid kingdom mechanic with the high medieval centralised papacy. It'd be good to have like a papal tech level that can change over time. Moral authority plus, I guess.
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So if they're pushing the start date back another 100 years, does that mean they'll have to overhaul the technology system again to support it? I'm not sure how they could not break the technology in current saves at least, unless they added some negative tiers or something. Massive Ahead Penalties maybe? But then you would just be stockpiling research points for 100 years more or less, not very interesting.
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A little bit of info on the expansion from RPS: New Earlier bookmark, 769, almost 100 more years of Crusader Kings II Special story event series for Charlemagne Annual Chronicle in the style of the Saxon chronicle Custom Kingdoms and Empires, create a new title from a lower-tier title, can customize flag and name Dozens of new cultures Brand new system for climate and seasonal transitions Regency overhaul Still not much to go on, but better.
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Gwyrgyn Blood posted:So if they're pushing the start date back another 100 years, does that mean they'll have to overhaul the technology system again to support it? I'm not sure how they could not break the technology in current saves at least, unless they added some negative tiers or something. Well, unlike EU4, don't CK2 expansions pretty much always massacre every old save? So they won't need to worry about breaking tech in current saves, at least. 
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Just tried an experiment last night, looks like any kind of "no dejure kingdoms" system will require serious code rewrites; since trying to have an area with no de jure kingdom currently crashes the game.
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Dumb question: is Francia pronounced like Frank-i-a or France-i-a? I was talking about CK2 with a friend and I didn't even realize there were two different ways. EDIT: Well, looks like Wikipedia says I'm wrong. I think I was basing my pronunciation off of the Spanish name for France, which is also Francia ninjahedgehog fucked around with this message at 17:08 on Aug 15, 2014 |
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Orv posted:Still not much to go on, but better. As a great man once said "But wait, there's more!" There is gonna come more information don't worry, right now all the VIP's of the CK2 team is down in Cologne. That list is just to get a quick glance.
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Rincewind posted:Well, unlike EU4, don't CK2 expansions pretty much always massacre every old save? So they won't need to worry about breaking tech in current saves, at least. Depends, TOG was the first one that "broke" savegames for me in CK2 and that was just because it messed up the technology system so everyone was basically way behind where they should have been. It was even still playable for the most part. There were some missing counties after Islam too but that was pretty minor. Rajas broke compatibility of course as well. But other than that I've never had a save game broken by a new version. Not counting bugs that is. But yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if they just added a few more tiers and rescaled everything which would break things similarly to how TOG did.
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I for one cannot wait to destroy the Karlings at the source
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Orv posted:A little bit of info on the expansion from RPS: Meh. This looks more like a $10 DLC than a $20 DLC, something more along the lines of Legacy of Rome or something. A new history, a customizer, and more flavor events doesn't seem worth $20 to me -- looks like the seasons will probably be something you get free with the patch anyway.
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The Annual Chronicle thing could be fun if it were done in a sort of semi-humorous style like the old SimCity newspapers were. Maybe detail a few notable events, wars, or deaths from across the world. Throw in a few funny pre-written bits and some fun statistics. Of course you'd probably want that to show up once every 10 years or so at most, not every year.
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From the video it looks like they did nothing to the cultural aspects of Northern Africa, though I didn't see any hint of religion. The people there were either Berbers speaking Berber or Romanized peoples speaking Romance languages, especially around Carthage. There should probably be some kind of African culture, with Miaphysite or Monothelite religion popular. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neolatin_Berber_States
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Hmm, can't wait for Karl der Grosse to whip all the varlets ITT who don't give the proper dues to the Right and True Kings of All the Franks.
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Eh, customizing the flag is nice. I have a fondness for playing as the Alans and making Alania a pseudo-Ukraine - their flag sucks though and Crimea's isn't much better. So making the flag of my kingdom the flag of my dynasty would be cool.
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I'm feeling like playing a third-tier county vassal. Does anyone know about any good starts for a such a vassal, where your ducal overlord has a lot of land with plenty of similar level vassals?
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I have the Old Gods, but if you didn't, wouldn't this DLC effectively add almost 300 years? You wouldn't get to okay as pagans or start at 869, but it would massively increase your playtime if that's all that interested you.
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DrSunshine posted:Meh. This looks more like a $10 DLC than a $20 DLC, something more along the lines of Legacy of Rome or something. A new history, a customizer, and more flavor events doesn't seem worth $20 to me -- looks like the seasons will probably be something you get free with the patch anyway. A regency overhaul sounds great, though. God knows it needs it.
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I think all the naysayers are missing the greatest benefit of the new bookmark: There is now a distinct possibility of no France or Francia ever.
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NewMars posted:I think all the naysayers are missing the greatest benefit of the new bookmark: There is now a distinct possibility of no France or Francia ever. Charles (and his brother Carloman) will start out controlling like 2/3rds of the eventual Carolingian Empire before they even start. Honestly, the only good way to prevent Charles (not yet the Great) from blobbing ridiculously would be to keep Carloman alive so the Carolingians remain divided in two.
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Gwyrgyn Blood posted:The Annual Chronicle thing could be fun if it were done in a sort of semi-humorous style like the old SimCity newspapers were. Maybe detail a few notable events, wars, or deaths from across the world. Throw in a few funny pre-written bits and some fun statistics. Of course you'd probably want that to show up once every 10 years or so at most, not every year. I'm picturing it as the CKII version of the Victoria II newspaper. It doesn't actually pop up, but has a little hanging tag showing how many unread papers you have, and you can manually choose to them any time.
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Orv posted:A little bit of info on the expansion from RPS: Am I weird for looking forward to the bolded part? EU3 tried to madlib together what each of your nation's rulers accomplished during their lifetimes. I never understood why CK2 doesn't, where it would be even more appropriate.
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That Paradox thread for the America mod didn't take long to break down.quote:600 years in the future and post-apocalyptic? Florida would definitely be under water by then, if I recall correctly it's projected to be 80% or more submerged within the next couple centuries due to climate change. quote:Depends on the nature of the apocalypse. Even if anthropogenic climate change has a germ of truth to it (it's largely junk science and flawed models) a civilization-destroying apocalypse would change human behavior enough (nobody burning massive amounts of fossil fuels anymore, nature reclaiming vast acreages from human developments) to alter the situation.
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Hey you know the rules. No fun unless that fun has been vetted by decades of pointless study.
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Darth Various posted:Am I weird for looking forward to the bolded part? EU3 tried to madlib together what each of your nation's rulers accomplished during their lifetimes. I never understood why CK2 doesn't, where it would be even more appropriate. It does sound pretty cool but I think it'll be a lot like the newspapers in V2 and those got old very quickly for me.
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i like it how people are in denial over the imminent death of all technological civilization
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Orv posted:Hey you know the rules. No fun unless that fun has been vetted by decades of pointless study. I think the emphasis was on the quote denying climate change was a thing. I mean yes, it's strictly true Florida should be underwater, but the correct answer to this isn't "CLIMATE CHANGE ISN'T REAL  " it's "Be that as it may, the point of this mod is to dick around in Feudal versions of the America we know, not realism  "
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Captain Oblivious posted:I think the emphasis was on the quote denying climate change was a thing. Question about Florida in that mod: can I play as the Conch Republic?
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Is the kingdom of Quebec de jure part of the Canadian empire? This is important Edit: also emperor Norton better be in the history files for the American empire title
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VerdantSquire posted:I'm feeling like playing a third-tier county vassal. Does anyone know about any good starts for a such a vassal, where your ducal overlord has a lot of land with plenty of similar level vassals? Well, the HRE is probably your best bet. In 1066 southern Germany, Lotharingia, and Burgundy have a lot of duchies that are all broken up into counts under dukes.
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Bob le Moche posted:Is the kingdom of Quebec de jure part of the Canadian empire? This is important Yeah, it is, though right now Canada is just Quebec and the Maritimes. As for the American empire title, there isn't one yet - we're thinking about what to do on that front. Captain Oblivious posted:I think the emphasis was on the quote denying climate change was a thing. Also, as I pointed out in there, who says the Event happened in 2014? Maybe the Cold War went hot or we got hit by an asteroid or something. Flesnolk fucked around with this message at 21:17 on Aug 15, 2014 |
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