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That's another reason to have Bumi be part of the fight. This is a fight involving all three of Aang and Katara's kids you guys! How cool is that!? They're over the hill (Bumi is retired for chrissake) but they're going down fighting four of the toughest benders we've ever seen to give their dad's dream a chance.
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Kinda disappointed Kya isn't a better water bender. Katara was straight up OP and Kya.. isn't.
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Aug 16, 2014 22:48
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Kya spent most of her life being a hippy stoner and "finding herself". That she performed as well as she did is very impressive in that context.
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Aug 16, 2014 22:59
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Yeah, Kya isn't a dedicated martial artist, she's a travelling healer. She knows waterbending katas as a matter of course and doubtless has some talent, but there's no way she's dedicated her life to combat forms in the same way that someone like Tenzin or Ming-hua has.
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Aug 16, 2014 23:12
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Superstring posted:That's another reason to have Bumi be part of the fight. This is a fight involving all three of Aang and Katara's kids you guys! How cool is that!? They're over the hill (Bumi is retired for chrissake) but they're going down fighting four of the toughest benders we've ever seen to give their dad's dream a chance. Yeah, that's what I loved about the scene, getting to see all Aang's kids falling together despite the bickering and having an awesome fight to protect the helpless. Irish Joe posted:Kinda disappointed Kya isn't a better water bender. Katara was straight up OP and Kya.. isn't. She did pretty good for being up against who might be the most dangerous waterbender alive.
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Nephthys posted:Kya spent most of her life being a hippy stoner and "finding herself". That she performed as well as she did is very impressive in that context. Turns out having to be on the run from an enemy army every single day forces you to be pretty tough.
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Aug 16, 2014 23:12
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I can't wait to see the Red Lotus get ruined, I'm tired of them winning all of their fights.
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Superstring posted:That's another reason to have Bumi be part of the fight. This is a fight involving all three of Aang and Katara's kids you guys! How cool is that!? They're over the hill (Bumi is retired for chrissake) but they're going down fighting four of the toughest benders we've ever seen to give their dad's dream a chance. Azubah posted:I can't wait to see the Red Lotus get ruined, I'm tired of them winning all of their fights.
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Aug 17, 2014 01:36
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achillesforever6 posted:I don't think Tenzin is that over the hill really I'm not sure what the exact ages are of Aang's kids (also, the fact that a lot of these characters seemingly have no last names makes it kind of awkward to talk about descendents of Aang without repeatedly saying "Aang's kids"), but even Tenzin, the youngest, has to be in his mid or late 50s. Not "over the hill", but they're not exactly the typical action hero age. That's one of the reasons I like this and ATLA so much. The cast is very diverse ethnically and age-wise, and shows people you don't see represented often in media. I made a post about this before, but the fact that three of the biggest characters are also childless and single in their 50's or 60's is rather rare too for television.
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^Tenzin is 52. As far as I know Kya and Bumi haven't been given official ages, so they're probably in their mid 50's / early 60's.Azubah posted:I can't wait to see the Red Lotus get ruined, I'm tired of them winning all of their fights. Normally I'd agree, but it's not bothering me nearly as much as Amon's bullshit plot armor. They're all really talented but perfectly capable of getting in over their heads (Zaheer vs Tonraq & Tenzin, the whole group at Zaofu) and in the last episode Tenzin was dominating Zaheer and fighting well 3v1, only going down to the whole Red Lotus acting as a well oiled machine 4v1. Basically what I'm saying is that the the show's done a good job so far of showing that the Red Lotus is dangerous but not invincible, and that their true strength comes from their teamwork. Compare to Amon who got into a fight almost every episode yet was never hit once until the finale. Sydin fucked around with this message at 01:51 on Aug 17, 2014 |
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Aug 17, 2014 01:49
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The fact that the Red Lotus' true strength comes from their teamwork is yet another way they're kind of an anti-Gaang, which is also pretty cool.
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The last time we had an 'anti-gaang' was with Azula, Mai & Ty-Lee. I always loved their battles. I wonder if we'll see anyting more from the Kyoshi Warriors?
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I think Ming Hua, was originally a swamp bender. For the most part, all of the northern or southern water tribe benders have been brunettes whereas Ming Hua and a few other swamp benders have black hair. I think it could be an important influence into her bending because the swamp benders seemed to be more inclined to use waterbending as an extension of themselves (like Ming Hua's limbs and the gurus swamp monsters) whereas the other tribes where more likely to weaponize water with various ice attacks.
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Azubah posted:I can't wait to see the Red Lotus get ruined, I'm tired of them winning all of their fights. I don't know, they've been almost hilariously ineffective at achieving their goals up until this most recent episode. Zaheer tries to infiltrate the new Airbenders in hopes that Korra will be at the Air Temple. She isn't and he's discovered. The team tries to capture Korra at Metal City, they're discovered and their plan fails and they have to escape. They try to kidnap Korra in the desert, but the Earth Queen beats them to her. They try to make a bargain with the Earth Queen for Korra, but it turns out she's not going to show up, so they have to switch to Plan B. They really are the Anti-Gaang in that, while they're powerful benders, they seem to just barely scrape by and their plans pretty much never go off without a hitch.
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So, I would assume you get Lavabending from somehow augmenting your bending to cause the earth particles to vibrate rapidly and turn it into lava. Theoretically a very advanced waterbender should be able to generate steam explosions this way. Also a very advanced air bender should be able to flash-freeze entire fields of air by making air particles go suddenly still, much like a waterbender does with ice. Also they could create fields of combustion by making air particles vibrate and cause pressure explosions and set stuff on fire. If you haven't been keeping up, airbenders also regularly tear poo poo apart with vacuums. I guess if you take airbending far enough, it gets pretty freaking terrifying. Those nomads must have been peaceful for a reason.
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Part of what has made the Red Lotus almost sympathetic is that they struggle and face setbacks just like the heroes do. They've hardly been invincible (in fact, one of the most memorable moments for me was Zaheer crying out "We failed!" after they lost Korra at Zaofu). And yeah, it's way more engaging than an antagonist that is virtually untouchable (Amon, Fire Lord Ozai) until the finale.
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Aug 17, 2014 04:48
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Tsinava posted:Theoretically a very advanced waterbender should be able to generate steam explosions this way. We've seen waterbenders do that before actually.
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Superstring posted:Because he's a soldier and the only other experienced fighter around. Tenzin wasn't about to order his kids or the newbie Airbenders into fighting. Also worth remembering that we saw in season 2 that Bumi carries combat knives around with him... Being on a kids show is the only reason that Ghazan didn't end that fight with his throat slashed.
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Aug 17, 2014 05:06
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ImpAtom posted:We've seen waterbenders do that before actually. IIRC, Katara also cooks stew without fire in ATLA.
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Calico Noose posted:Also worth remembering that we saw in season 2 that Bumi carries combat knives around with him... Being on a kids show is the only reason that Ghazan didn't end that fight with his throat slashed. Bumi runs into alot of the problems Sokka did combat wise.
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Aug 17, 2014 05:21
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SirKibbles posted:Bumi runs into alot of the problems Sokka did combat wise. Like "how do I use my [awesome space] sword, an instrument that historically existed solely to kill people"?
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Aug 17, 2014 05:32
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The little airbending kids would wreck Boomy he's so wack
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A talented airbender should be able to cause intense pressure waves and shockwaves by alternately compressing and releasing air. More than just a gale-force wind, an Avatar-level airbender should be able to cause fuel-air-bomb-like explosions. Actually, if you think about it, there's really nothing stopping an airbender from performing the same phase-shifting that waterbenders do instinctively, and which Ghazan, presumably, learned to do with rock. An airbender should be able to create super-cooled jets of liquified air, or even oxygen or nitrogen ice.
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Aug 17, 2014 05:53
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That's probably really hard and would first require realizing that air even can be a liquid, something that would be a bit out of place in the setting. All this chi poo poo is not real physics. Bumi probably isn't in the habit of filling his novice airbender robes with knives.
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I wonder why there aren't, like, bending scientists or something, who are trying to figure out how all this stuff works, or tinkering with it to see what new possibilities could be created using the techniques that they're using. If old Iroh back a hundred years ago could be inspired by waterbenders to create a new firebending technique, imagine what some Republic City tinkerer could do now, given that they have all these new methods of communication like radio and newspapers, new industry to create leisure time, and a greater degree of cultural exchange. It would definitely fit with the "change" theme and with the early-modern setting with industrialization bringing about rapid developments and radical new ideas.
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Aug 17, 2014 06:14
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DrSunshine posted:I wonder why there aren't, like, bending scientists or something, who are trying to figure out how all this stuff works, or tinkering with it to see what new possibilities could be created using the techniques that they're using.
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Aug 17, 2014 06:24
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Hey, fun fact: the Book 3 finale will be the 100th episode of the Avatar franchise.
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Less fun fact: their current track record for finales means it'll probably be a letdown.
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Aug 17, 2014 06:29
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This season needs an Empire Strikes Back finale,
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DrSunshine posted:I wonder why there aren't, like, bending scientists or something, who are trying to figure out how all this stuff works, or tinkering with it to see what new possibilities could be created using the techniques that they're using. If old Iroh back a hundred years ago could be inspired by waterbenders to create a new firebending technique, imagine what some Republic City tinkerer could do now, given that they have all these new methods of communication like radio and newspapers, new industry to create leisure time, and a greater degree of cultural exchange. It would definitely fit with the "change" theme and with the early-modern setting with industrialization bringing about rapid developments and radical new ideas. I'm somewhat hoping that if they were ever given the go-ahead for a third series, it'd take on a modern/slightly futuristic level of technology, and how it interacts (or clashes) with the traditional bending. ...And now I'm hoping they wouldn't do some new
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Jackard posted:This season needs an Empire Strikes Back finale, Given that they got news in how many books they wanted and got renewed for, I'm thinking that a betting man would put good money on this having an Empire Strikes Back finale.
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Jack Skeleton posted:Given that they got news in how many books they wanted and got renewed for, I'm thinking that a betting man would put good money on this having an Empire Strikes Back finale. Just like Book 2 of TLA did!
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Bongo Bill posted:That's probably really hard and would first require realizing that air even can be a liquid, something that would be a bit out of place in the setting. All this chi poo poo is not real physics. He'd somehow stab himself anyway, look how clumsy he is.
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Regalingualius posted:I'm somewhat hoping that if they were ever given the go-ahead for a third series, it'd take on a modern/slightly futuristic level of technology, and how it interacts (or clashes) with the traditional bending. That'd be pretty cool, and it'd be fitting since I believe Avatar was originally supposed to be a sci-fi series.
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Avatar with blade runner elements? Ok I'm down.
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Tsinava posted:Also a very advanced air bender should be able to flash-freeze entire fields of air by making air particles go suddenly still, much like a waterbender does with ice. Also they could create fields of combustion by making air particles vibrate and cause pressure explosions and set stuff on fire. What kind of fanfiction bullshit is this? The air we breath is not combustible. Pure O2 is combustible, but not the air with be breathe which is severely diluted by nitrogen. Unless you're the freaking flame alchemist, able to separate pure O2 from the air and then light it, airbenders can not do this. Airbenders can not freeze the air. If it were especially humid outside, waterbenders could freeze the air. What the hell is an airbender gonna get out of phaseshifting the air? Rocket fuel?
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This guy is right. I'm on his side about how magic probably works on the kids show
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Aug 17, 2014 10:56
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Big Anime Fan Here posted:This guy is right. I'm on his side about how magic probably works on the kids show
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Ravane posted:What kind of fanfiction bullshit is this? This is pretty much the appropriate response to the vast majority of speculation people have been giving on the show.
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Big Anime Fan Here posted:This guy is right. I'm on his side about how magic probably works on the kids show
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