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The non vocal music in that YouTube is terrible though!
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Aug 20, 2014 00:42
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R. Mute posted:the best shakespeare adaptation is probably rosencrantz and guildenstern are dead I was a drama kid in high school, and my senior year we did a double-billing of "Hamlet" and "R&G Are Dead." I played Polonius, so I had a poo poo ton of lines, but I got to have my corpse dragged across stage in R&G, so that was pretty fun.
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Aug 20, 2014 00:56
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The adaption of Richard III set in 1930s Fascist Britain is fantastic.R. Mute posted:what are some "classics" you guys didn't like? a lot of 19th century gothic writers, like liars and bad breath, are a huge turn-off for me. i can take it if reading your work is challenging, but don't make it a punishment. I didn't make it more than 150 pages into Don Quixote because it was so repetitive. The leads misunderstand something, there's some humiliating violence, then the same thing happens over and over.
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Aug 20, 2014 01:06
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Doctor Spaceman posted:The adaption of Richard III set in 1930s Fascist Britain is fantastic. Yes, holy poo poo that's a good one. Ian McKellen, for my money, is the best living actor, and that movie is his best performance. e: Robert Downey Jr. and Annette Benning are horribly miscast, but Sir Ian and Jim Broadbent are so good at it doesn't matter. Majorian fucked around with this message at 01:18 on Aug 20, 2014 |
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Aug 20, 2014 01:08
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Doctor Spaceman posted:The adaption of Richard III set in 1930s Fascist Britain is fantastic. Don't read Don Quixote, read the commentary by Borges and look at the Daumier pics!
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Aug 20, 2014 01:20
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People in the UK pronounce it Kwix-ott. It's confounding.
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Aug 20, 2014 01:23
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euphronius posted:Interesting the name Godot is not supposed to be a reference to God. Don't know what Beckett was thinking because he knew it was going to be translated into English. Although Beckett denies it, there is a good chance it emerged from a Balzac play, Mercadet ou le faiseur. In that there is a character named Godeau who is eternally meant to be turning up the whole play to save the main character, Mercadet, who speaks the following lines: "Godeau !… Mais Godeau est un mythe !… Une fable !… Godeau, c’est un fantôme… Vous avez vu Godeau ?… Allons voir Godeau" (Godeau! But godeau is a myth! A story! Godeau, he's a ghost! You have seen Godeau? etc.) Not only is it structurally reminiscent of other parts of Beckett's work (most notably the unnamable), but the similarities seem too good to pass up! EDIT: The british pronunciation of Quixote varies with the speaker's knowledge of Spanish. However, one might venture that the pronunciation is quixotic HO HO HO
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Aug 20, 2014 01:26
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euphronius posted:People in the UK pronounce it Kwix-ott. Also when they talk about Latin American subjects they do the th thing from Castillian Spanish. During the world cup the BBC kept mentioning Jameth Rodrigueth.
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Aug 20, 2014 01:37
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If we're going with Tom Wolfe not being literature, I assume we're going with the same for other people fictionalizing historical events, like Truman Capote, Michael Shaara and, I dunno, Shakespeare?
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Aug 20, 2014 01:56
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In high school we watched an adaption of Macbeth and the only thing I can remember from it is that prop guys bungled the scene where macduff's children are killed. His son gets stabbed but the blood pack doesn't get punctured right so when Macduff's wife hugs him before he collapses, she squeezes the blood pack causing it to come all out at once.
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Aug 20, 2014 02:09
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StandardVC10 posted:I was intrigued by Waiting for Godot when I read it but it would probably be better performed. I watched it performed in Hebrew. Very nice. Gutted I'll never see the Stewart/McKellen version.  Thanatosian posted:I hate almost everything I've ever read by Dickens, the exception being A Tale of Two Cities, which is one of my favorite books. He wrote the best of books, he wrote the worst of books. euphronius posted:People in the UK pronounce it Kwix-ott. In Hebrew it's common to pronounce it as "Don Key-shote".
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Aug 20, 2014 02:35
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But seriously for a moment I am super glad that the anti Iraq war president is now escalating war in Iraq. Makes me feel especially powerful as a voter.
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Aug 20, 2014 02:42
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All this Quix-oot talk makes me glad I judged the book for what it was, an easy reference to drop to sound cultured and some a nice Piccaso, not something to be read.
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Aug 20, 2014 02:48
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Majorian posted:Yes, holy poo poo that's a good one. Ian McKellen, for my money, is the best living actor, and that movie is his best performance. Saw him do King Lear. As part of the Royal Shakespeare Company. In Stratford on Avon. Minimalist set. It was mind. blowing. God, he was amazing.
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Aug 20, 2014 02:56
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I read Don Quixote and liked it, though parts of it can be a huge slog and to be honest I liked it as more of a historical artifact than as a book. I liked how Cervantes would go "well enough about this Quixote guy, I'm gonna take a chapter to tell a totally different story" or the part at the start of the second half where he's saying "seriously gently caress that plagiarist guy I'll give you folks a REAL continuation", or the bits at the very end of the second part where they're going to, I think Valencia, and it touches on the contemporary Catalonian rebellion which was something I never knew about. I also enjoyed the whole "well this story might not make sense but really guys I'm just translating the manuscripts of this Moorish chronicler I've found really". It's just an interesting picture of Spain during its "golden age".
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Aug 20, 2014 03:04
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euphronius posted:People in the UK pronounce it Kwix-ott. That is really unacceptable. I've heard an American professor of literature do that as well, and it really made me twitch. Badger of Basra posted:Also when they talk about Latin American subjects they do the th thing from Castillian Spanish. During the world cup the BBC kept mentioning Jameth Rodrigueth. I wish people wouldn't encourage the Spaniards on their language snobbery. Every Spanish person I've talked to has had something disparaging to say about the "wrong" way Latin Americans speak Spanish. Yeah, that's great guys - the majority of Spanish speakers in the world should change their pronunciation of words because you guys had a few inbred tards with harelips as your kings.
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Aug 20, 2014 03:06
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Majorian posted:Yes, holy poo poo that's a good one. Ian McKellen, for my money, is the best living actor, and that movie is his best performance. I love the opening shot of him giving his speech and ending up with him sitting on the toilet talking to the camera, it's brilliant. also I never hear of people reading middlemarch and it's probably one of the best english novels. Dreylad fucked around with this message at 03:15 on Aug 20, 2014 |
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Aug 20, 2014 03:06
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Dreylad posted:I love the opening shot of him giving his speech and ending up with him sitting on the toilet talking to the camera, it's brilliant. Yeah, it's a great framing of the monologue. I also like how the director spliced in a few bits from "Henry VI, Part 3": "Why, I can smile...and murder whiles I smile. Cry content to that which grieves my heart. Wet my cheeks with artificial tears, and frame my face for all occasions."
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Aug 20, 2014 03:09
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Majorian posted:That is really unacceptable. I've heard an American professor of literature do that as well, and it really made me twitch. I wonder - are there obnoxious Hispanophiles in Latin America like we have Anglophiles here? Although I don't know what their Dr. Who analogue would be.
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Badger of Basra posted:I wonder - are there obnoxious Hispanophiles in Latin America like we have Anglophiles here? Although I don't know what their Dr. Who analogue would be. I tend to pronounce the "th" sound because I figure it would be easier to stop doing it later than to move to it from just pronouncing them all as "s", and I figure it's a good mnemonic for when to use ce/ci/z instead of s.  Cependent, il est francais qui je vraiment etude dans cet epoche.
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Aug 20, 2014 03:13
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Dreylad posted:also I never hear of people reading middlemarch and it's probably one of the best english novels. i read middlemarch i read it as part of a unit on the early english novel, so unfortunately all the details of the plot kind of disappear into a vague haze also consisting of Waverly and several Austen novels and turns into a lot of Sir Wensleycourt-Buckfordshires and Miss Elizabeth Forsithes. its all terribly proper and no one raises their voice.
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Recently there was a complete database outage for like a couple of days, and now the same company is taking the forums down for maintenance tonight. I wouldn't mention it but both A) offering new avatar sizes after a decade and B) a half of not touching avatars while putting a particularly ugly avatar on new accounts. Is the forums out of money? Aside from jrod, there aren't exactly a ton of new accounts popping up.
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Canadide is far more readable than Don Quixote imo, maybe it's because Voltaire was a funny guy
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Aug 20, 2014 03:32
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rscott posted:Canadide is far more readable than Don Quixote imo, maybe it's because Voltaire was a funny guy This a thousand times.
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Aug 20, 2014 03:33
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Quixote has digressions but the king of digressions is Les Miserables which is if I may say so one of the best things ever done by humans. I'm not even gonna classify it other than thing. It is the best of all possible works.
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Aug 20, 2014 03:36
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euphronius posted:Quixote has digressions but the king of digressions is Les Miserables which is if I may say so one of the best things ever done by humans. I'm not even gonna classify it other than thing. Yeah, that's one of my top three or so. My only complaint is that there's too much loving geography about 19th century Paris.
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I hear that even if you're really well-protected, taking a tour of the sewers in Paris will make you wicked ill
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Majorian posted:Yeah, that's one of my top three or so. My only complaint is that there's too much loving geography about 19th century Paris. In fairness Napoleon III pretty much completely demolished Paris and then rebuilt it so Victor Hugo was basically going "oh man but old Paris was so cool, I'd better write all about it so people don't forget about it."
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Cheekio posted:Recently there was a complete database outage for like a couple of days, and now the same company is taking the forums down for maintenance tonight. I wouldn't mention it but both A) offering new avatar sizes after a decade and B) a half of not touching avatars while putting a particularly ugly avatar on new accounts. Is the forums out of money? Aside from jrod, there aren't exactly a ton of new accounts popping up. I dunno, I'm pretty sure Lowtax would have said something if the forums were running low on cash. I think he's just doing a little housekeeping (notice how the "BANNED" avatar also changed).
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SALT CURES HAM posted:I dunno, I'm pretty sure Lowtax would have said something if the forums were running low on cash. I think he's just doing a little housekeeping (notice how the "BANNED" avatar also changed). Pretty sure whoever is paying for the ads for aggro-gator.com has more money than sense, so I'm guessing that that's one big source of revenue.
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Aug 20, 2014 04:00
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people have been begging for larger avatar limits in qcs for months
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Aug 20, 2014 04:10
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gently caress The Mayor of Casterbridge. Also, with this goddamn [satire] tag the Onion needs to just run straight pieces about real news stories for a couple days.
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Aug 20, 2014 04:15
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Majorian posted:This a thousand times. It's all for the best, in the best of all possible worlds. *endures yet another senseless yet humorous atrocity*
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StandardVC10 posted:I don't remember if the German social democratic party was involved in their government in 1914 but I do remember my high school history text saying they kinda-sorta condoned the war, which seems like a significant mainstream-ing they were "social democratic" in a parliamentary system that was still heavily subservient to monarchical influence and control. that's kind of why once the dust settled after wwi and there was a true democratic system in place, a lot of them peeled off to straight up "conservative" parties, and a lot others peeled off to straight up leftist parties in many cases people were in the "social democratic party" of imperial germany simply because it was the main party that at the time advocated for liberalizing the country's politics at all R. Mute posted:china is just... weird. i'm not an expert on the subject, but the more i hear about it the more i'm amazed that china still... exists. at times it sounds like they're wile e coyote running off a cliff and we're still in those few seconds before he realises something's wrong. tbh what they're doing now is at least more sustainable than half the mao era which isn't a high bar Mr. Horrible posted:Which is why I've never read Ender's Game - I first heard about it in college. read the original short story version which is about 35 pages instead of about 380 pages and thus doesn't have all sorts of crap, just simple and to the point (among other things doesn't build anything up about the kid being treated as truly skilled ubermensch) Absurd Alhazred posted:I think that explains it. pretty difficult for it to be about the baby boomer teenage experience when the first teenagers of the baby boom generation wouldn't be around for another 7 years at the earliest (not to mention it was originally attempted to be published as a novella 5 years before that) (it's about the "silent generation" experience, and specifically about a higher than plain middle class experience [since the kid's going to a high end private boarding prep school]) like seriously you have to remember that it was successfully published in 1951 and was originally written late 1945/early 1946. it was about people who were in most cases old enough to be parents of the baby boomers, especially the latter half of the baby boomers
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Captain_Maclaine posted:It's all for the best, in the best of all possible worlds. I think that book was when I first truly began to appreciate black humor. (tonally black, not racially black)
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Nintendo Kid posted:pretty difficult for it to be about the baby boomer teenage experience when the first teenagers of the baby boom generation wouldn't be around for another 7 years at the earliest (not to mention it was originally attempted to be published as a novella 5 years before that) Well, I guess I don't know what I'm talking about, then. Not sarcastically. I think I read it when I was a teenager; thing is, it was required reading, and I took exception to being forced to read things when I was already reading out of my own volition, so I would try to read just enough to be able to write the papers they wanted me to.
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it's really weird all around in what the kid's even able to do, though it was stuff that would be normal for the time it was written. like he just walks out of the residential prep school without the school notifying the parents. he's able to just get a hotel room no questions asked despite being a teenager. but honestly it really does speak to teenager attitudes. as mentioned previously everyone either thought/acted like him, or knew people who thought/acted like him and hated them. it would have to work out the story in a different way if set in a later time or today, but the basic stuff would be the same (no teen's going to be able to get the hotel room on their own in manhattan these days, even if they can afford it  ).
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guardians of the galaxy was an enjoyable movie imo. stupid, but enjoyable.
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R. Mute posted:the best shakespeare adaptation is probably rosencrantz and guildenstern are dead I also read Middlemarch and did NOT ENJOY it, but I was a high school senior and I think I picked it just because it was huge. If you really like e.g. Pride and Prejudice, it's (thematically speaking) that sort of thing and probably worth a try.
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