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commish posted:Pretty much. It's because of that explosion that everyone can (and should) wait on a QB. There's very little chance I take one of the top 10 QBs this year. Would you still do this in a 6 pptd passing league with bonuses for 275, 350, and 400 yards? Along with 40+ yard completions/TDs? I feel like Manning could possibly be worth taking at my 6th overall pick, but I won with streaming Andy Dalton (who somehow finished 4th overall QB in my league) and Alex Smith, so I'll probably just stick to my usual strategy.
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RCarr posted:Is there anything wrong with drafting 3 RB's and 3 WR's (or even 4+ of each) before taking a QB and TE? For some reason I get nervous in mocks when everyone has their starting roster filled and I don't have a QB or TE yet. Then again, I've been getting Cutler/Romo and Reed/Ertz as examples in later rounds, so with my solidified RB/WR corps, I shouldn't be worried right? It depends on who is available. Last year, you could get someone like Kaepernick or WIlson in Rnd. 6/7 in most standard drafts, so I would typically go RB, RB, WR, WR, RB, QB, TE, WR... or something like that. It would end up with me getting two 20+ point RBs, an average QB that peaked at the end when you needed, a promising backup RB that I ended up using for trade bait when other people had no RBs, an ok TE, and two ok WRs. You have three WRs, so that changes things a little.
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I take a qb right before defense and kicker, maybe a round or 2 earlier if someone I like slips.
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jabro posted:I don't see Charles regressing much this season. 12 TDs isn't that much for a #1 RB on a team where he is the main offensive weapon. I don't think it will happen but wouldn't be surprised to see more TDs. Now after this season that is another story. Charles had 19 touchdowns overall last year (rushing and receiving). For comparison that is up from 8, 8, and 6 in his previous non injury shortened seasons. Which isn't to say he will definitely regress but that is a pretty huge jump. e: just realized this was from 2 pages ago, oops Psmith fucked around with this message at 16:09 on Aug 21, 2014 |
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This is kinda positive:quote:Le'Veon Bell paid his own way to Philadelphia and has joined his teammates for Thursday night's preseason game. That's pretty admirable. Some guys would have just sulked at home. Please let this be a coming of age story with a happy ending where Tomlin drop-kicks Blount into the Allegheny river.
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ShaneB posted:Would you still do this in a 6 pptd passing league with bonuses for 275, 350, and 400 yards? Along with 40+ yard completions/TDs? I feel like Manning could possibly be worth taking at my 6th overall pick, but I won with streaming Andy Dalton (who somehow finished 4th overall QB in my league) and Alex Smith, so I'll probably just stick to my usual strategy. I'd still take the RB at the sixth position. I'd rather have Lacy + Romo than Manning + Knowshon. That said, don't ignore value when a top QB slides. Though it'd have to be round 3 or 4 before I pull the trigger on Manning. Psmith posted:Charles had 19 touchdowns overall last year (rushing and receiving). For comparison that is up from 8, 8, and 6 in his previous non injury shortened seasons. Which isn't to say he will definitely regress but that is a pretty huge jump. Can't ignore the other changes though. That's a totally new team with the new coach and QB. But the old fantasy football saying is, "don't chase touchdowns". Maybe not 19, but he doesn't need 19 in order to be a top 3 fantasy back.
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Do y'all like Bradford or Tannehill as a backup/future QB in Dynasty. There is a 300 yard game bonus. I haven't been able to draft a decent rookie in years. I guess Jake Locker is out there too. I also have Eli, but I've already decided I'm dropping him.
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Psmith posted:Charles had 19 touchdowns overall last year (rushing and receiving). For comparison that is up from 8, 8, and 6 in his previous non injury shortened seasons. Under a completely new head coach and offense. He received 38 more targets than his previous max of 66 and had 35 more receptions than his previous max of 45, both in 2010. Edit: drat your edit, commish! ShaneB fucked around with this message at 16:00 on Aug 21, 2014 |
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District Selectman posted:I wouldn't pay $50 for Peyton, but I would pay $30 for Brown. The catch 22 is that I value Brown more, but I know that elite QB's are over priced in my league. Is Peyton a "value" if I pay $15, he's worth $30, but will would sell for $50 on the market? Or Brown, who I'm only guessing will go for $30, but is probably worth $35? The difference in projected cost makes Manning way more valuable. If for nothing else, trade bait. Gumbel2Gumbel posted:Why aren't we favoring QB's more with the passing explosion we'll see with the illegal contact rules being enforced It doesn't actually favor a specific quarterback, just the position as a whole. The differences between elite quarterbacks and average fantasy starters will likely remain the same.
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I definitely agree with the points about it being a new offense and team. He probably won't get 19 total TDs this year but it will likely be higher than his previous high of 8.
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headcase posted:Do y'all like Bradford or Tannehill as a backup/future QB in Dynasty. There is a 300 yard game bonus. I haven't been able to draft a decent rookie in years. I guess Jake Locker is out there too. They are both fine for spot starts this year. I believe Bradford was on pace for qb12 last year before his injury, or just short by a very small margin.
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headcase posted:Do y'all like Bradford or Tannehill as a backup/future QB in Dynasty. There is a 300 yard game bonus. I haven't been able to draft a decent rookie in years. I guess Jake Locker is out there too. Tannehill has better athleticism and touch but is behind a considerably-worse o-line but with better receivers. The Rams have done the superior job of at least giving Bradford all the creature comforts a QB would need to excel. He has a superior blocking o-line, an established ground game, and a physical TE (Jared Cook) that I am surprised they can't get open more often (WRs to blame, perhaps). I like Bradford as a short-term & seasonal backup but Tannehill is the better dynasty prospect.
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Aredna posted:I made a thing based off of your scoring system and stealing Yahoo's projections. It's open to edit for anyone with link so hopefully no one screws it up for ya. I absentmindedly changed a couple values out of curiosity so the thing might be messed up for a couple minutes while I try to fix it 
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Thanks for the sheets again! Looks like in 1 PPR, this has McCoy taking a pretty big hit, falling below Forte even.Beer4TheBeerGod posted:Hey guys, if you could give me a hand by filling out this survey of league styles it would be really helpful so I can find out which sheets are the most common. Done.
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So I'm already looking at trades in the preseason. I have Murray, LeVeon, Ellington and Gerhart for my RBs, another guy has Lynch, Gore, TRich and LawFirm. Non PPR. Would I be overpaying by offering LeVeon and Gerhart for Lynch?
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:Hey guys, if you could give me a hand by filling out this survey of league styles it would be really helpful so I can find out which sheets are the most common. Would be cool if you could fill this out and have it spit out a beer sheet. The sheets are helpful but so much scrolling
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Kloaked00 posted:So I'm already looking at trades in the preseason. I have Murray, LeVeon, Ellington and Gerhart for my RBs, another guy has Lynch, Gore, TRich and LawFirm. Non PPR. Would I be overpaying by offering LeVeon and Gerhart for Lynch? I think that trade sucks for both of you and you'll get more value by holding on to those RBs.
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:Hey guys, if you could give me a hand by filling out this survey of league styles it would be really helpful so I can find out which sheets are the most common. Done  Thanks for all you do man
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disheveled posted:I think that trade sucks for both of you and you'll get more value by holding on to those RBs. IMO that deal favors the Lynch owner with what we know now. Bell will still be good, and Gerhart will get plenty of chances. One thing I notices about Bell was that RapeBurger loved using him as a safety valve. Most of his bigger yard plays came from a dump pass. QB trust is key to RBs.
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In a PPR league with otherwise normal settings, which of these terrible options would you chose as your last keeper? No cost, we always keep four players (My others are Peyton, Decker, and Antonio Brown). Toby Gerhart Darren Sproles Trent Richardson Anquan Boldin
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Kloaked00 posted:So I'm already looking at trades in the preseason. I have Murray, LeVeon, Ellington and Gerhart for my RBs, another guy has Lynch, Gore, TRich and LawFirm. Non PPR. Would I be overpaying by offering LeVeon and Gerhart for Lynch? That's too much for Lynch. I think his touches take a hit this year, and I've said elsewhere that I am higher than most on Bell (Though, who knows after last night).
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IcePhoenix posted:In a PPR league with otherwise normal settings, which of these terrible options would you chose as your last keeper? No cost, we always keep four players (My others are Peyton, Decker, and Antonio Brown). I would keep Gerhart, Antonio, and Peyton for sure. Out of the rest... eh.... um..... probably TRich. I wouldn't touch Decker with a 90 foot pole, to be honest. If Vick was starting, maybe. If Geno, ugh. I think Decker finishes with something like 850 yards and 5 tds, which is waiver wire material.
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16 team keeper league, 0.5ppr, 6pt passing tds. I can keep up to 3 players this year for the P price of the 15th, 31st, and 47th picks respectively (my first three rounds) LeSean McCoy for the 15th pick is a given, my options for the other two spots are: LeVeon Bell Zac Stacy Arian Foster Doug Martin Andrew Luck Keenan Allen Currently I'm leaning Bell and Stacy, then picking up a couple WRs with picks 63 and 66, then aim for someone in the Wilson, Cutler, Romo range with my next pick.
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pmchem posted:heh, ok. Beer, where do you collect your projections from? Footballguys, 4For4, CBS, ESPN, Gridiron Experts, Numberfire, FFToday, Fantasy Sharks, and probably one or two others that I don't remember because I am phone posting.
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Fight Club Sandwich posted:Would be cool if you could fill this out and have it spit out a beer sheet. The sheets are helpful but so much scrolling Got a book on MySQL and dynamic web stuff so I can figure that out during the offseason.
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Jose Valasquez posted:16 team keeper league, 0.5ppr, 6pt passing tds. Yeah I do think you go Bell/Stacy there.
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I'm fretting over 6th out of 12th pick and my draft strategy in prep for my draft tonight. If CJ falls to 6th I basically have to take him, and at 18th I'm stuck drafting a RB like marshawn lynch or Gio if I'm lucky. If those guys are gone I'm really hoping for Antonio Brown, who I am super high on, especially with return yards. But then I have, what, zac Stacy and Toby gerhart at 3rd/4th rounds if I'm REALLY lucky? Is that a solid 4 round strategy for targeting or no?
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Combo posted:Yeah I do think you go Bell/Stacy there. Can we talk about why Doug Martin is ranked below Bell for a second? Like, just a discussion, no dumb polemics. I'm not sure why their rankings are so different, given Martin is the undisputed three-down bellcow, and Bell is in some unknown variant of a lovely timeshare. If anything, the TB offense will be even more run-heavy than PIT this year, no? I get that Martin had a bad year last year, but still, I'm finding it hard not to view Martin as a value pick. ShaneB posted:I'm fretting over 6th out of 12th pick and my draft strategy in prep for my draft tonight. If CJ falls to 6th I basically have to take him, and at 18th I'm stuck drafting a RB like marshawn lynch or Gio if I'm lucky. If those guys are gone I'm really hoping for Antonio Brown, who I am super high on, especially with return yards. But then I have, what, zac Stacy and Toby gerhart at 3rd/4th rounds if I'm REALLY lucky? Is that a solid 4 round strategy for targeting or no? Sixth is a horrible place to pick this year, in my opinion. The RBs in that stretch are underwhelming, and if you just go WR first you end up with an RB tire fire by the third/fourth round. If you do go WR/RB, pick the RB who is low risk. Stacy or Martin or something like that, avoid Ellington et al. You need reliable production, even if the upside is a bit lower, because you are going to be rostering Tate or some other injury time bomb as your RB2. Franks Happy Place fucked around with this message at 17:44 on Aug 21, 2014 |
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Franks Happy Place posted:Can we talk about why Doug Martin is ranked below Bell for a second? Like, just a discussion, no dumb polemics. His ADP is 3.03 in PPR ATM. I'd take him there and if he falls to 3.06 I'm most assuredly taking him.
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Franks Happy Place posted:Can we talk about why Doug Martin is ranked below Bell for a second? Like, just a discussion, no dumb polemics. I'm definitely not adverse to taking him this year. I'm a little less worried now that it seems like his backups keep getting injured.
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I'll gladly take Martin as an RB2, but that obviously only happens in a scenario wherein he falls to the late 3rd/early 4th after I've already taken one of Charles/McCoy/Lacy/Forte/Peterson/Gio/Ellington/Lynch/Bell and at least one of CJ/DT/Dez/Julio/Marshall/Brown/Allen/Jeffery/Graham I've yet to see that happen, but when it does, I'll enjoy my money.
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ShaneB posted:I'm fretting over 6th out of 12th pick and my draft strategy in prep for my draft tonight. If CJ falls to 6th I basically have to take him, and at 18th I'm stuck drafting a RB like marshawn lynch or Gio if I'm lucky. If those guys are gone I'm really hoping for Antonio Brown, who I am super high on, especially with return yards. But then I have, what, zac Stacy and Toby gerhart at 3rd/4th rounds if I'm REALLY lucky? Is that a solid 4 round strategy for targeting or no?
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Apparently Bell is the only one getting charged in Bluntgate, Blount was not even arrested and was allowed to leave the scene more or less right away. Ugh.
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Varg posted:I just had a draft on Yahoo last night going 6 out of 12. Check the rate my draft thread. I went Calvin, then the best RB available was Ellington so I took him. Cobb with my 3rd pick, Rashad Jennings with my 4th. It wasn't exactly pretty but I felt like I did the best I could with what was there. Time to do a few mocks I guess.
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Varg posted:I just had a draft on Yahoo last night going 6 out of 12. Check the rate my draft thread. I went Calvin, then the best RB available was Ellington so I took him. Cobb with my 3rd pick, Rashad Jennings with my 4th. It wasn't exactly pretty but I felt like I did the best I could with what was there. Depending on what the board looked like, I might've taken a different WR than Cobb at 3, or waited until Rd. 3 for the first RB if there was a second stud WR available, but that's pretty much exactly how you handle that scenario
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Obama Yo Mama posted:Depending on what the board looked like, I might've taken a different WR than Cobb at 3, or waited until Rd. 3 for the first RB if there was a second stud WR available, but that's pretty much exactly how you handle that scenario Is Cobb ranked that high? I have him as a possible keeper on the team I listed a few posts ago.
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IcePhoenix posted:In a PPR league with otherwise normal settings, which of these terrible options would you chose as your last keeper? No cost, we always keep four players (My others are Peyton, Decker, and Antonio Brown). Gerhart
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IcePhoenix posted:Is Cobb ranked that high? I have him as a possible keeper on the team I listed a few posts ago. Cobb is a tier 2 WR.
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