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Devor posted:The question was answered by the commentators, and it was Entropic's reason rather than Ramos' explanation. One of those interactions that catch new players out. I played someone yesterday who said she won a game at the game day by chaining Preeminent Captains out, felt kinda bad telling her the interaction she partially built her deck around didnt work.
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Just wanna say overloading a turn 2 vandalblast against an affinity player who previously had the nut hand is satisfying in every way
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Aug 23, 2014 16:51
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Mulligan'd down to five cards, got Thoughtseized, and Tom Ross goes straight through to the win regardless due to monoblack getting mana screwed. Ouch.
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Aug 23, 2014 16:57
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So this rules question came up during my FNM last night, maybe someone here can answer. I attacked my opponent with a Frostburn Weird. He had an Elvish Mystic and a Scavenging Ooze out. The question was, could he block with his Mystic, tap it to float a green mana, then after the Mystic dies to combat damage, use that mana to activate Ooze to eat the Mystic? The question's really just about when that mana would've emptied from his mana pool.
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Aug 23, 2014 17:26
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I'm pretty sure mana empties between phases and the mana he got during the assign blockers phase would go away after moving to the combat damage phase.
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Aug 23, 2014 17:29
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No. Because mana empties at the end of every step and phase, and because combat damage happens at the start of the Combat Damage step before anyone gets priority, there's no way to float mana before it dies and be able to use that to eat it, barring something like Omnath. You don't have the opportunity in Combat Damage, and while you have the opportunity in Blockers, it'll just fade away before damage is dealt.
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Aug 23, 2014 17:32
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I would miss something like Reid Duke playing that UG Prophet deck from last year updated for M15 
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Aug 23, 2014 17:35
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qbert posted:So this rules question came up during my FNM last night, maybe someone here can answer. No. From rules: quote:500.4. When a step or phase ends, any unused mana left in a player’s mana pool empties. This turn-based action doesn’t use the stack. The latest he can activate Mystic for the mana is in Declare Blockers step, the earliest the Mystic is in the graveyard and can be eaten is in Combat Damage step.
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Aug 23, 2014 17:35
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Tonetta posted:Just wanna say overloading a turn 2 vandalblast against an affinity player who previously had the nut hand is satisfying in every way How did this happen? Sounds awesome.
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Aug 23, 2014 17:37
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Serum Visions is in a weird place where it's kind of a stupid card compared to preordain (what possible situation could you be in where you wouldn't to see 2 cards before you draw) but preordain is banned in modern and they'll never reprint a standard card that's banned in another format. They should have just made a new similar card, maybe scry 1 draw a card. Or a 2 mana scry 3 draw a card. Preordain at 2 mana instant speed would also have been cool.
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Aug 23, 2014 17:38
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Sleep of Bronze posted:No. Because mana empties at the end of every step and phase, and because combat damage happens at the start of the Combat Damage step before anyone gets priority, there's no way to float mana before it dies and be able to use that to eat it, barring something like Omnath. You don't have the opportunity in Combat Damage, and while you have the opportunity in Blockers, it'll just fade away before damage is dealt. Thanks. I tried arguing this position, but apparently the concept of mana emptying at the end of steps was foreign to everyone at the FNM. It didn't end up mattering for that game, and I beat him and won a box anyways. 
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Aug 23, 2014 17:40
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qbert posted:Thanks. I tried arguing this position, but apparently the concept of mana emptying at the end of steps was foreign to everyone at the FNM. It didn't end up mattering for that game, and I beat him and won a box anyways. lmao gotta show dem niggas whats what every now n again
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Aug 23, 2014 17:51
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Ableist Kinkshamer posted:How did this happen? Sounds awesome. I play bloom titan and chose to bloom into a vandalblast on the draw than a titan
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Aug 23, 2014 17:52
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It was - OK, it was more than five years ago, they should have caught the hell up by now - but it was part of the M10 rules changes to make it steps and phases as well as phases. Ironically, they made it empty after both because so many people couldn't remember the difference, so I enjoy the fact that you had people trying to enforce the old, picky rules while being totally wrong about them still being on the books.
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tom ross is Real Good at drawing cards vv A big flaming stink fucked around with this message at 21:38 on Aug 23, 2014 |
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Aug 23, 2014 21:25
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A big flaming stink posted:tom ross is Real Good at drawing cards lol yeah know what u mean. man just had no skill @ all mate, just drawing dem cards takin the free wins dont know how rabble isnt banned yet, ya feel me?
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Aug 23, 2014 21:29
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It would be pretty beautiful if Boettcher loses to two different Rabble Red decks today, after insisting on having zero sideboard cards against it.
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Aug 23, 2014 21:35
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LaTex Fetish posted:lol yeah know what u mean. man just had no skill @ all mate, just drawing dem cards takin the free wins Yeah man I dig. Ya kno what else takes zero skill? UW control. That Flowsh or whatever his name at the GP was only won by playin that broke rear end jank Sphinx's Rev yo. How do you lose after you play that jank for like 10 on turn 3 god.
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Aug 23, 2014 21:37
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Count Bleck posted:Yeah man I dig. Ya kno what else takes zero skill? UW control. That Flowsh or whatever his name at the GP was only won by playin that broke rear end jank Sphinx's Rev yo. wisdom
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Aug 23, 2014 21:40
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Aetherspouts OP, like Supreme Verdict but better in every way. Ban now.
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Aug 23, 2014 21:50
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Ramos posted:Aetherspouts OP, like Supreme Verdict but better in every way. Ban now. Look at how it completely changed what happened! Overpowered. 
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Aug 23, 2014 21:52
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how to beat UW control as burn: have them keep a hand that does literally nothing
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Aug 24, 2014 00:05
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A big flaming stink posted:how to beat UW control as burn: have them keep a hand that does literally nothing White mana? Who need white mana? I got this kickin' rad hand.
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Aug 24, 2014 00:10
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mcmagic posted:Reid Duke on the SCG feed playing GU Devotion with Yisan, The Wonderer Bard. lol Where would you fine a list for this?
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Aug 24, 2014 00:22
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haha bertoncini fails after starting 6-0
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Alris posted:Where would you fine a list for this? Here you go.
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Aug 24, 2014 00:34
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Alris posted:Where would you fine a list for this? 02:17:21 here: http://www.twitch.tv/scglive/b/561140446 Last I heard he was 2/2 with it. Scribbled it out: 4 Elvish Mystic 4 Kiora's Follower 1 Sylvan Caryatid 1 Burning-tree Emissary 1 Scavenging Ooze* 4 Yisan, Wandering Bard 2 Courser of Kruphix 1 Reclamation Sage 4 Polukranos, World Eater 1 Nylea, God of the Hunt 1 Nylea's Disciple 4 Prophet of Kruphix 1 Arbor Colossus 2 Prime Speaker Zegana* 1 AEtherling* 1 Negate 1 Plasm Capture* 2 Chord of Calling 2 Breeding Pool* 4 Yavimaya Coast 4 Temple of Mystery 6 Forest 3 Island 3 Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx Sideboard: 3 Negate 1 Dispel 1 Reclamation Sage 3 Nylea's Disciple 2 Jace, Architecht of Thought* 1 Jace, Memory Adept* 1 Setessan Tactics 1 Skylasher* 2 Mistcutter Hydra Dunno why he's only got two Breeding Pools, thought you'd rather drop Yavimaya Coasts first. I've marked the stuff cycling out, it loses 2 handy one-of two drops and Zegana, who so far I see as a finisher and card draw. Broodmaster might indeed fit well in it's place, but doesn't have the immediate value, even if a Prophet might let you monsterous it and get the tokens in response to removal at it.
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A big flaming stink posted:haha bertoncini fails after starting 6-0 Those poor 6 people. Do you think he uses his magic tricks sparsely like a fine spice or does he have a personal record of how many he can jam every tournament?
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Drafted a pretty awesome Vintage Masters goblins deck. Lose games 2 and 3 to the same combo, Mox Sapphire ---> High Tide --> 3 Frantic Search ----> Dark Ritual ---> Dark Ritual ----> Tendrils/Brain Freeze ---> Scrivener ---> me scoop. Both games I had lethal next turn. He also had Force of Will and Underground Sea. gently caress that guy.
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Angry Grimace posted:Drafted a pretty awesome Vintage Masters goblins deck. Lose games 2 and 3 to the same combo, Mox Sapphire ---> High Tide --> 3 Frantic Search ----> Dark Ritual ---> Dark Ritual ----> Tendrils/Brain Freeze ---> Scrivener ---> me scoop. Both games I had lethal next turn. He also had Force of Will and Underground Sea. He did draft storm so he deserves a win.
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Aug 24, 2014 01:42
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Shaman Ooglaboogla posted:He did draft storm so he deserves a win. He drafted storm WELL, at least from what we've seen, so that deserves a win.
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Aug 24, 2014 01:46
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The SCG stream right now is pretty much the textbook example of Mono-U vs G/W Aggro. G/W player drops his entire hand of big dudes on curve, and Mono-U player just shrugs with T3 Thassa, T4 MoW, win.
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Aug 24, 2014 01:47
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Shaman Ooglaboogla posted:He did draft storm so he deserves a win. That's kind of what I was thinking, but it still mad me want to punch a hole in the wall having a dude turn 4 win like it was a constructed game.
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Aug 24, 2014 01:57
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people who've ever been interested in Vintage Rotisserie Draft, but sure to catch http://www.twitch.tv/shotgunlotus today (you can also start watching the draft from the beginning). Marshall Sutcliffe and Randy Buehler are competing, and Brian Wong is commentating.
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Lurchington posted:people who've ever been interested in Vintage Rotisserie Draft, but sure to catch http://www.twitch.tv/shotgunlotus today (you can also start watching the draft from the beginning). Here's the spreadsheet if people want to see how the draft portion turned out. Of note, some cards that were taken before Balance: Aether Spellbomb, Glaze Fiend, Darkwater Egg, Tainted Wood, and Dimir Cutpurse. Also, there are two slots left in the inaugural SA Vintage Rotisserie Draft, for anyone who wants to give the format a try.
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qbert posted:The SCG stream right now is pretty much the textbook example of Mono-U vs G/W Aggro. G/W player drops his entire hand of big dudes on curve, and Mono-U player just shrugs with T3 Thassa, T4 MoW, win. Green white still wins overall. Woo woo!
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Aug 24, 2014 02:24
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Ramos posted:Green white still wins overall. Woo woo!
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Aug 24, 2014 02:24
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Looks like Reid stuck out all 10 rounds today and finished 6-4 with the Yisan deck.
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Lurchington posted:people who've ever been interested in Vintage Rotisserie Draft, but sure to catch http://www.twitch.tv/shotgunlotus today (you can also start watching the draft from the beginning). I like how the chat is now just badgering the commentators into getting shitfaced. They're doing a shot like every 10 minutes now.
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haha chris kelly just show and telled in consecrated sphinx and james nguyen put notion thief in. nguyen drew his entire library e: awww nguyen killed his own thief
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