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ItalicSquirrels posted:My wife's office does business with Puerto Rico and apparently one of her managers was bemoaning that the Puerto Rican offices were incredibly slow at getting paperwork and forms returned and complained that no other offices (all within the continental US) took so long with the exact same forms. My wife asked, "Did you send them a version in Spanish?" I love this and am in no way surprised. I'm sure I'll do something like this one day...
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Poop Cupcake posted:I once had to work with the county to make some brochures about the GED program, and they gave me a whole list of colors that I couldn't use because "it might be offensive to people from other cultures". Not allowed to use white or black because they could represent death, red was 'too aggressive', green was off limits for some dumb reason, blue wasn't allowed either, etc. They were extremely serious about this and were unwilling to budge about it at all when I explained that the only colors we had left to work with were purple and orange. I take it they'd never heard of the Orange Order? Seriously, that's a colour that can get you kneecapped in some parts of the world.
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Aug 23, 2014 21:00
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One of our supervisors known for making poo poo up as he goes along to make him look better told off someone on the overnight shift for being too informal because he addressed the manager of a different department in the same business unit by her first name. Oh noooooooooooooo how dare he do such a terrible thing. We see this woman on a daily basis, her office is directly adjacent to my manager's office, and her department sits directly behind us. She doesn't give a flying gently caress what people call her. This supervisor just loves drama and does everything in his power to stir it up and make his shift look better than the others. Hell, I argue sports with my VP and I once challenged him to a duel for his corner office. When my VP calls me, my response is "Hey what's up Bob." Where his name is Robert (different name but akin to that) because we're a casual office and this has never been an issue in the past. Of course my Manager won't make a statement on the matter because he somehow accomplishes to be less involved with the department than when we have no manager at all. My job would be so much better if this supervisor got hit by a bus. I'll even drive it.
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Aug 24, 2014 17:30
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That kind of bullshit makes me really glad for the first-name policy we have. Got to start an email to the CTO as "Hi [Name]", and we've got thousands of employees and aren't a stupid SV startup.
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Aug 24, 2014 17:57
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mobby_6kl posted:That kind of bullshit makes me really glad for the first-name policy we have. Got to start an email to the CTO as "Hi [Name]", and we've got thousands of employees and aren't a stupid SV startup. Really it's this one guy playing games where he makes poo poo up on the spot then gets mad at the employees for not knowing the new rule he just invented. Of course he refuses to put any of it in writing because then he'd need the support of manager to make it official. (Or more likely, is trying to keep it hidden from our manager). He'll never actually be able to do anything to us since he never puts any of it in writing, but that doesn't stop it from being frustrating to deal with.
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Aug 24, 2014 18:32
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Swink posted:A director of my company says 'pacifically' in place of 'specifically'. Bonus if you get him to say spaghetti.
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Aug 24, 2014 19:28
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Who the gently caress uses anything other than first names anyway?
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Aug 24, 2014 21:32
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CelestialScribe posted:Who the gently caress uses anything other than first names anyway? Pretty much my office and most of the companies I deal with use last names. Its really great because Microsoft Outlook only auto populates the email To: field by typing the letters to the first name. Thanks IT!
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Aug 24, 2014 23:58
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That's weird. What industry are you in? I've worked in Mortgage and Insurance and we've only ever used first names. Hell, I call the CEO at my current company by his first name.
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Aug 25, 2014 01:03
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Its due to the prevailing country culture there. Its not a US based corp, but a branch office in the US. Honestly after a year or two I got completely used to it to the point where I'd completely forget about it except for that drat Outlook niggle.
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Aug 25, 2014 01:17
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We use last names when speaking to customers and talking to the CEO, first names for everyone else. CEO is a multi-millionaire though so he's not a real human being. He takes a helicopter to work every day.
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Aug 25, 2014 01:21
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A good half of the management team at my company has the same first name, so they often get called by their last names for that reason only.
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Aug 25, 2014 01:29
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Calling someone by just their last name is a lot different than having to say "Mr. Lastname", though. I assumed that's what the person that complained would have preferred.
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Aug 25, 2014 02:06
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Wait do people actually call each other Mr./Ms./Mrs <XYZ> when passing each other in the hallways in some companies? (In the US?) I just did a thought experiment to see how it would work out at my company and ended up laughing uncontrollably at how absurd that would be. Even the dinosaur C-squite execs get called by their first names and prefer it that way. Even the stuffy CFO whose shirt is starched to the level of diamond on the Mohr scale, who is such a crusty bastard that your rear end in a top hat automatically tightens up as soon as it gauges the level of uptightness upon walking in his office, goes by his first name.
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Aug 25, 2014 03:01
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At my old job a lot of people went by last names since our cubes were labeled with only a first initial and last name and there were a ton of repeat first names since it was a huge company. I have never encountered anyone calling anyone else Mr./Mrs./Ms. except for addressing the CEO. That's just weird.
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Aug 25, 2014 03:25
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seacat posted:Wait do people actually call each other Mr./Ms./Mrs <XYZ> when passing each other in the hallways in some companies? (In the US?) I only do it ironically, to people I'm good friends with.
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Aug 25, 2014 04:19
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"Nice work, Higgens!" Feels like a parody.
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Aug 25, 2014 04:33
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Starting my first salaried job today. I'm excited and apprehensive. I'm not used to working past 5 either. I don't know if I'll have to do that every day, but it is taking some mental adjustment to give up my idea of work being exactly 40 hours a week. But hey, I've got a job and I'm glad to have it.
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Aug 25, 2014 13:19
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Radio Talmudist posted:Starting my first salaried job today. I'm excited and apprehensive. If you get there extra early you don't have to work late!  (Don't be that guy who gets in at 5 and peaces out at 2, everyone hates that guy)
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Aug 25, 2014 14:40
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Radio Talmudist posted:Starting my first salaried job today. I'm excited and apprehensive. That was the hardest thing for me. Sitting and concentrating for 10+ hours while wearing work clothes. It was really tough at first.
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Aquatic Giraffe posted:(Don't be that guy who gets in at 5 and peaces out at 2, everyone hates that guy) Everyone wishes they could be that guy. I would love to be that guy but a) I am not a morning person and b) I am 3 hours ahead of my office. Being a 2am-11am guy would rule, though.
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Aug 25, 2014 14:56
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Most of my team is 5 or 6 AM to early afternoon. I'm 10-7:30. Luckily, my boss aligns with my schedule so I don't look like that big of a slacker. I get that it's nice to have an afternoon and get work out of the way, but it's also nice to not wake up while it's still dark.
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Aug 25, 2014 15:01
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Our annual company-wide survey is happening right now and I'm waffling between answering honestly or not at all. I like my manager as a person but she's a big part of why I took another job and my answers aren't going to be very favorable to her.
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StdNormDist posted:Our annual company-wide survey is happening right now and I'm waffling between answering honestly or not at all. I like my manager as a person but she's a big part of why I took another job and my answers aren't going to be very favorable to her. I would either not answer or I would give some vague answer about it moving on growth etc because you might need her a connection in the future. The best feedback I've given and received has been "off the record" in a relaxed setting where you don't fling around accusations and scream at each other. If you really want to leave your boss a better dept. you'd have to have a difficult talk with her. Whether or not it's worth your time is up to you. TBH I've never heard any stories of those survey (and exit interviews for that matter) ever affecting anything in a positive way for any employee or the company. My professional career at this point is like 6-something years so if anyone wants to bring a ray of hope to my jadedness I'd welcome it.
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seacat posted:I would either not answer or I would give some vague answer about it moving on growth etc because you might need her a connection in the future. The best feedback I've given and received has been "off the record" in a relaxed setting where you don't fling around accusations and scream at each other. If you really want to leave your boss a better dept. you'd have to have a difficult talk with her. Whether or not it's worth your time is up to you. No day of light, but if love to hear how it worked in a negative manner. I figured those surveys were always anonymous or thrown into the round file.
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No sunshine here. The last time I answered an anonymous survey honestly was at a previous job. While the individual answers were anonymous, the group answers in aggregate were not. Since my group had low survey scores, we had punishment meetings for weeks where our director was very confrontational and we were asked why we answered certain questions the way we did. To be sure, you may be able to say that you are working too much, or there is too much stress, but be wary of saying that you have no confidence in management, or anything that directly relates to a person in power.
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Aquatic Giraffe posted:If you get there extra early you don't have to work late! Don't listen to this guy. If your manager is ok with it, work whatever schedule is best for you.
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modeski posted:I worked at an agency for a while and customers would pull this poo poo all the time. Usually when I explained the cost of getting proper translations done they'd end up sticking with English only. feedmegin posted:I take it they'd never heard of the Orange Order? Seriously, that's a colour that can get you kneecapped in some parts of the world. I'm 8:30-5:30, but my boss frequently comes in at 2-3 in the afternoon and will stay until 9 or 10. I leave at 5:30, but my Indian co-workers are expected to stay until their boss leaves. Consequently I end up looking lazy because I leave 'early' compared to when they do. 
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If I waited until my boss left to go home, I'd never actually get to leave.quote:No sunshine here. The last time I answered an anonymous survey honestly was at a previous job. While the individual answers were anonymous, the group answers in aggregate were not. Since my group had low survey scores, we had punishment meetings for weeks where our director was very confrontational and we were asked why we answered certain questions the way we did. This matches my experience at my last two companies as well, but I'd also add another caveat. Often, your direct manager is held responsible for the survey results of his or her group. Negative answers directed at senior management / overall corporate culture will both never get addressed AND will probably get your manager hammered at review time instead. If your problems are actually honest-to-god problems with your manager, go hog-wild on the negative feedback. If they're above your manager's level, though, you're probably just going to throw a perfectly adequate manager (yours) under the bus because the VPs and Senior Directors you're pissed at can do no wrong.
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Volmarias posted:Don't listen to this guy. If your manager is ok with it, work whatever schedule is best for you. It comes down to your individual job. If you're in a highly collaborative environment and leave your coworkers hanging for the last 3 hours of the day then they'll get pissed off. At my old job everyone worked 7:30-4:30 except the guy whose job it was to release drawings into our system who worked 5-2 every day so if you finished your drawing by 3 the day it was due you couldn't release it until the next day and you'd get a hit on your performance review for releasing late even though you had it done on time. It was exceptionally frustrating. I work 7-3:30. I'm here during normal business hours but I get home in time to do stuff like going to the post office and if I have to do OT I'm not here super late.
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If it's a role with that kind of dependency, that guy's manager should have forced him to the accepted company hours.
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I always answer our supposed "anonymous" surveys pretty honestly. I'm not going to give a false answer about a bad manager or co-worker simply because I may need their connections later. Doing otherwise creates the vicious circle of how shitheels keep getting promoted in spite of being terrible at their jobs.
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It makes me feel better to see how many of you guys work past 5. I know it sounds juvenile, but I have this silly feeling that by working later, I'm missing out. On what? Who knows. I guess I was born for the french workday, but I live in the United States so I've got to deal. On the plus, I'm not bored here, which is a relief.
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If you are not honest about bad management, she will drive off more people. The company does not want that because recruitment and training is expensive.
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Radio Talmudist posted:It makes me feel better to see how many of you guys work past 5. I know it sounds juvenile, but I have this silly feeling that by working later, I'm missing out. On what? Who knows. I guess I was born for the french workday, but I live in the United States so I've got to deal. On the plus, I'm not bored here, which is a relief. Even though I feel pressured to stay later than I do, when I show up at the parking lot in the morning it's empty, and when I leave in the afternoon it's pretty much empty too.
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I roll in early and I roll out... averageish for my company or slightly later. But my day is my own, I just have to accomplish my overall strategic objectives. (If I stopped posting on the forums I could probably shave 10/15 minutes off my work day)
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Sundae posted:If I waited until my boss left to go home, I'd never actually get to leave. This exactly. The questions about management were directly related to our manager, despite the fact they they were things like 'I approve of the direction this company is going" which she had no control over. The fact was that the company at the time was laying off US folks and hiring inexperienced people in "low cost geographies" so we sure as hell did not approve of that. Our manager got slammed for not being able to convince us that layoffs were a positive thing.
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Well its finally happened...I got a job offer related to what I'm going to school for, so it looks like I'll be out of the corporate world in 2 weeks. I'm scared to death but excited at least. Aquatic Giraffe posted:It comes down to your individual job. If you're in a highly collaborative environment and leave your coworkers hanging for the last 3 hours of the day then they'll get pissed off. At my old job everyone worked 7:30-4:30 except the guy whose job it was to release drawings into our system who worked 5-2 every day so if you finished your drawing by 3 the day it was due you couldn't release it until the next day and you'd get a hit on your performance review for releasing late even though you had it done on time. It was exceptionally frustrating. Yeah our team had a guy that did the 5-2 thing as well and never stayed late, while myself and one other person were almost always stuck there to finish up for the day's deadlines. It got annoying. But now that I have a 3 month old I'm up at 5:30 anyway so I get in to work by 7:30 and I'm out the door exactly 8 hours from when I started because I just don't give a gently caress anymore and I'm not leaving anyone hanging. I'll stay late if I have to but I pretty much committed to doing absolutely nothing extra in a given day because I wasn't getting much of anything out of it except more headaches. Combo fucked around with this message at 19:04 on Aug 25, 2014 |
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Our anonymous surveys are truly anonymous, but I can't say that for the rest of the company because we're as big as the borg and it's like Noah's Ark in that literally every conceivable function is duplicated multiple times.
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Every one of those I've seen was "anonymous". But then it asked what site you were assigned to, your position, how long you'd been with the company, your age bracket...
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