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Snowdens Secret posted:My Aprilia parts situation may be awful but at least the company exists Buell may not exist but at least my parts situation is good. 
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The honda VFR800 still exists and got a bit of a once over, just got a new sport rider with it as the cover feature. Buuuuut I guess that's too "sport"-ish for the pussies that buy ADV bikes. I don't see the ADV appeal either, but I also don't have a 4x4 truck lifted with big rims as my daily driver. I think it's much the same. Look like you're cool and sacrifice any actual coolness. Also BMW themselves make the alternative: the K1300 Better road bike, can purchase with luggage.
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Aug 22, 2014 23:28
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Slavvy posted:I can't fathom why the majority of people who buy ADV bikes buy ADV bikes when a regular old touring/sport touring/semi faired bike would work much better, so logic doesn't come into it at even the most basic level. Noone makes the retarded decision to ride a safari-equipped ADV to work every day, then logically decide which brand to buy. Because they have to look like steely-eyed adventurers about to set off to Dakar at a moments notice. Also they get to ride the biggest, tallest bike. So, you know, penis problems. Same reason why any man does anything.
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Aug 22, 2014 23:29
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A friend of mine once owned a 990 Adventure that he rode all around South America and said it was the best bike he ever owned. How do those compare to the various GS's?
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Aug 22, 2014 23:45
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Also they get to ride the biggest, tallest bike. This is nice in traffic, I see over a lot of non-brodozer SUV roofs. Also, ergonomics. Obtuse knee and hip angles, hooray!  And I stand by my position that the Ulysses is cool as gently caress except that it's hot as gently caress. (I am secretly hoping the EBR AX is a faired or half/faired non-adventure tourer with a factory luggage system) clutchpuck fucked around with this message at 00:00 on Aug 23, 2014 |
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Aug 22, 2014 23:46
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Slavvy posted:I can't fathom why the majority of people who buy ADV bikes buy ADV bikes when a regular old touring/sport touring/semi faired bike would work much better ADV bikes typically have more travel in the suspension for potholes. Some have spoked wheel options which will also do better with potholes. They sit higher for seeing over more traffic, and being more visible to that traffic. They more commonly fit full face helmets in the side bags. They are designed to look like good while looking like poo poo so it's no sweat to ride the bike more than wash it. I would argue they're actually better suited to urban commuting than the average sport tourer. I would be hard pressed to make up my mind on a Tiger 800 vs a VFR800 for commuting if they could be found with bags for the same price with the same features.
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Aug 22, 2014 23:49
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In the US the VFR8 lists roughly two grand higher than the Tiger 8 (not the goofier XC), IIRC both with ABS. The Honda clearly looks better when new and clean, but trying to keep expensive fancy fairing work looking new and clean on a commuter bike is a hassle, and in terms of engine and running gear the Triumph has a solid advantage.
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Aug 22, 2014 23:53
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clutchpuck posted:Also, ergonomics. Obtuse knee and hip angles, hooray! Ergos are the best reason to get a tall bike you'll never take offroad. There's just so much loving room. Any time I've testridden something else and then got back on my KLR or Wee it's felt like when you crumple up a potato chip bag and it decrumples all on its own. On the subject of BMW vs Triumph, my fiancee really prefers the back seat of the F800 bikes to the Tiger 8. Doesn't like where the grabhandles are.
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Aug 23, 2014 00:08
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Funny, she hasn't complained about where my grabhandle is.
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Aug 23, 2014 00:43
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clutchpuck posted:They do? You can link, just gotta be clever about it: http://www.bmwmotorcycles.com/us/en/bike/enduro/2012/f800gsa/f800gsa_overview.html I see now I must have been looking at the GS Adventure trim, not the regular trim; I had just googled the url on my phone earlier and gone directly to the page to look at the weight - didn't notice it wasn't the base trim. Also, this is a thing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eEB34tVvBc http://www.998cc.org/forum/fz1-streetfighter/12235-fz1-07-turbo-pictures.html (i.e. how to make an FZ1 unrideable) Militant Lesbian fucked around with this message at 02:22 on Aug 23, 2014 |
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Aug 23, 2014 02:19
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Phy posted:Ergos are the best reason to get a tall bike you'll never take offroad. There's just so much loving room. Any time I've testridden something else and then got back on my KLR or Wee it's felt like when you crumple up a potato chip bag and it decrumples all on its own. That said, I put footpeg lowering brackets on the Strom and it made a noticeable difference.
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Aug 23, 2014 02:58
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Sagebrush posted:Pff, you can't go on an adventure with only 390cc. You need 1200. (1150 is ok your first time). I know you are kidding, but for real I have a group of friends who did the Colorado Backcountry Discovery Route last year and rode stuff like a KLR650, a BMW 1100GS (I think??), and a Yamaha TDM850 - all big-boy adventure touring style bikes. They are (somewhat boringly, IMO) going back to do it again this year, this time on like 3 TW200's and other small bikes, because all of their bikes were too big and heavy for actual backcountry roads in their opinion. I wish I could go. 
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Aug 23, 2014 05:11
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If I still lived in a place where it snows, I would 100% get a TW200 and put studded tires on it and commute by bike 365 days a year. Those are fun little bikes.
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Aug 23, 2014 05:48
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HotCanadianChick posted:Also, this is a thing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eEB34tVvBc  Jesus, I wanna ride that just once. Never been on a bike that can't keep the front down in 4th gear.
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Aug 23, 2014 05:49
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How long does an engine last making that kind of power?
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Aug 23, 2014 05:53
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Longer than the rider. Honestly, I'd love to ride that to feel it, but you could never really pin the throttle without the bike flipping over backwards... right? That sounds frustrating.
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Aug 23, 2014 06:01
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Sagebrush posted:How long does an engine last making that kind of power? If it lasts more than four hours you have to consult a physician
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Aug 23, 2014 06:32
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Halo_4am posted:ADV bikes typically have more travel in the suspension for potholes. Some have spoked wheel options which will also do better with potholes. They sit higher for seeing over more traffic, and being more visible to that traffic. They more commonly fit full face helmets in the side bags. They are designed to look like good while looking like poo poo so it's no sweat to ride the bike more than wash it. This would hold some water if it weren't for the fact that they all put those ridiculous gigantic hard cases on them making them harder to get through traffic than a loving Goldwing.
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Halo_4am posted:ADV bikes typically have more travel in the suspension for potholes. Some have spoked wheel options which will also do better with potholes. They sit higher for seeing over more traffic, and being more visible to that traffic. They more commonly fit full face helmets in the side bags. They are designed to look like good while looking like poo poo so it's no sweat to ride the bike more than wash it. My 919 looks like a korean diesel after three days, I don't know if 'looks good while looks poo poo' is a deliberate sales strategy but it seems plausible. Snowdens Secret posted:If it lasts more than four hours you have to consult a physician Hahahahahaha awesome. Slavvy fucked around with this message at 11:17 on Aug 23, 2014 |
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Aug 23, 2014 11:13
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It's fun to poo poo on big ADV bikes but the big GS for all it's fault is a pretty good bike, this is a pretty good example, check out the track lap times. KTM SMT owns though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxFi4-PeGeg
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Aug 23, 2014 12:14
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goddamnedtwisto posted:This would hold some water if it weren't for the fact that they all put those ridiculous gigantic hard cases on them making them harder to get through traffic than a loving Goldwing.  ADVENTURE COMMUTER
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Aug 23, 2014 13:59
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LOL, the GS had a better time then the VFR.
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Aug 23, 2014 16:45
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HNasty posted:KTM SMT owns though. KTM came out with a 1290 Super Duke... and a 1290 Adventure... If they come out with a 1290 SMT I may have a nervous breakdown.
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Aug 23, 2014 18:55
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HotCanadianChick posted:
Nice to see that other people are as OCD about cancelling their indicators all the time as I am.
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Aug 23, 2014 19:34
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echomadman posted:Nice to see that other people are as OCD about cancelling their indicators all the time as I am. When I installed LED turn signals it disabled my panel turn indicator for some reason so yeah I compulsively press that button like every 15 seconds.
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Retarded Pimp posted:LOL, the GS had a better time then the VFR. Don't tell a VFR fan this but....the VFR is fat and a little bit underpowered in the current market. Just because it's a "sport" tourer doesn't make it fast. Even the big ADV bikes like the R1200GSW and KTM1190 that have off road pretensions are about the same weight, more powerful, and handle better. Then there are the totally road based "Adventure" bikes that will run circles around the VFR. But since this is a picture thread: VFR.jpg 
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KodiakRS posted:Don't tell a VFR fan this but....the VFR is fat and a little bit underpowered in the current market. Just because it's a "sport" tourer doesn't make it fast. Even the big ADV bikes like the R1200GSW and KTM1190 that have off road pretensions are about the same weight, more powerful, and handle better. Then there are the totally road based "Adventure" bikes that will run circles around the VFR. But since this is a picture thread: You're exaggerating, there's about a 20kg difference between a big GS and a VFR. But yeah. It's long in the tooth and Honda, continuing their upward trend of being as milquetoast as possible, have just released a warmed-over cosmetic facelift that didn't change the frame or engine from 20 years ago.  Unleashed!
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HotCanadianChick posted:You can link, just gotta be clever about it: http://www.bmwmotorcycles.com/us/en/bike/enduro/2012/f800gsa/f800gsa_overview.html That looks terrifying. I'm going to do that when I'm old and dying so I can go out in a blaze of glory.
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Slavvy posted:You're exaggerating, there's about a 20kg difference between a big GS and a VFR. But yeah. It's long in the tooth and Honda, continuing their upward trend of being as milquetoast as possible, have just released a warmed-over cosmetic facelift that didn't change the frame or engine from 20 years ago. Honda really loves those fake usd forks. Which in tyool 2014 is a bit weird.
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Good lord 
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Aug 25, 2014 17:46
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I remember reading about designing swingarms once and being floored at how much thought and engineering goes into their design. When I see poo poo like this I can't help but wonder if the designer is at home crying into a bottle of whiskey.
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Aug 25, 2014 18:42
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I wonder how many potholes it takes before that "swingarm" folds up.
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Aug 25, 2014 18:44
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whhhhyyyyyyyyyy
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Aug 25, 2014 19:32
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Are those speakers in the fairing too?
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Aug 25, 2014 19:40
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Gotta drop dat phat bass while you're cruising along at top speed (i.e. 5 kph).
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Collateral Damage posted:I wonder how many potholes it takes before that "swingarm" folds up. Take out the rear shock, make it a hardtail and it'd still have suspension from the swingarm flex alone.
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Aug 25, 2014 19:47
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Haha, I want to know the origin of that smiley
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Time for some beam bending analysis
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