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louie ck still uses a blackberry. edit: at least his character on TV does. 
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horriblePencilist posted:I can't wait when we get to the part where all the indie game devs stand up and yell "I hosed Zoe Quinn" like at the end of Spartacus spartacuck
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Aug 26, 2014 18:47
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How much wood would a woodcuck cuck if a woodcuck could cuck wood?
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Aug 26, 2014 18:50
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slowbeef posted:A few probably did start like this, but your large market consists of users who are a bit tech savvy, meaning ad block. So how do you pay the bills? Wellllllllllll.... There's also the point that as people grow older, they have a lot of demands on their wallet. It's not that hard to turn down an easy $10,000 when you are 20 and all you have to care about is you. Later on when you have a family of your own, or possibly need to worry about your folks, and the dreams you had of making it rich start to fade away it becomes harder and harder to turn down that cash. Worse, because the money is probably for your family it becomes a lot easier to justify to oneself.
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Aug 26, 2014 18:51
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Simstim posted:What I don't get is why someone hasn't set up a videogame website where its key incentive to readers is avoiding conflict of interest problems with strong ethical guidelines and transparency. There seems to be a large market for it but maybe it's not economically viable. Honestly think this is because the majority of revenue for game news sites comes from advertising/PR deals, therefore the moment you stop being a free game review blog is pretty much moment you ironically become a conflict of interest Iirc the whole gamespot review scandal where their frontpage was covered in Kane & Lynch mudflaps and billboards was in like 2006, and it's arguably gotten a lot worse since then
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slowbeef posted:A few probably did start like this, but your large market consists of users who are a bit tech savvy, meaning ad block. So how do you pay the bills? Wellllllllllll.... plus honest reviews would lead to publisher blackballing which is pretty much suicide in a market as hyperactive as games "journalism" where having a review up one day before the other guy can make or break it
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Aug 26, 2014 18:51
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Wasn't there a guy who was fired for giving a game a bad review like... a decade ago? I remember it being a big deal. edit: fixed.
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Aug 26, 2014 18:52
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^^^ That guy who gave a bad review to Kane and Lynch? Jeff something I'M MAD AS HELL AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE! 
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Sephiroth_IRA posted:Wasn't there a guy who was fired for giving a game a bad review like... a decade ago? I remember it being a big deal. jeff gerstman, over kane & lynch
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Simstim posted:What I don't get is why someone hasn't set up a videogame website where its key incentive to readers is avoiding conflict of interest problems with strong ethical guidelines and transparency. There seems to be a large market for it but maybe it's not economically viable. One of the first places I wrote for was a crappy, click-bait, list-o-mania, ad-heavy website aimed at college kids making far too much money. They finally had a press deal with Lionsgate and were all excited to finally have that kind of credit. I was pretty stoked too as I'd finally be doing real movie reviews instead of list after list. They handed me some 50 Cent movie (not the one you're thinking of) as my first review. It was pretty darn awful, but I went a little easy on the review because it was direct-to-video and had a shoe-string budget. Gave some more creative criticism than heavy slander. Several days after submitting the review, I asked why it wasn't scheduled for publication yet. Turns out they gave my review directly to Lionsgate PR and said the site shouldn't publish it as it would mean negative press. The website said they'd still publish my reviews if I wrote them more favorably. I said goodbye. Now I'm writing for a few different sites where I do get press copies from Lionsgate from editors who won't bend over backwards for the distributors just because I wrote a negative review.
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Aug 26, 2014 18:55
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Sephiroth_IRA posted:Wasn't there a guy who was fired for giving a game a bad review like... a decade ago? I remember it being a big deal. Yeah, it was Jeff Gerstman who later went on to make giantbomb which is probably one of the most trustworthy game sites out there.
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also it wasn't a bad review, he gave it a 6/10 iirc which is just meh (of course nowadays a 6/10 means that either the publisher was a cheapskate and wouldn't buy enough ads, or that the game is just so notoriously bad that others have started reporting how bad it is and now you can also call it bad and seek safety in numbers) it was funny seeing that on a webpage positively plastered with kane & lynch ads though
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Aug 26, 2014 18:56
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It was Jeff Gerstman who hated McGriddles and went on to bury ET in the desert.
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Lobster Harmonica posted:Iirc the whole gamespot review scandal where their frontpage was covered in Kane & Lynch mudflaps and billboards was in like 2006, and it's arguably gotten a lot worse since then Reminder that Polygon got $750,000 from Microsoft to do a documentary on how Polygon was going to change
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slowbeef posted:A few probably did start like this, but your large market consists of users who are a bit tech savvy, meaning ad block. So how do you pay the bills? Wellllllllllll.... To be honest I'd support an honest writer on a site without ads via Patreon. That's what a lot of Youtubers do, actually. With so many people using adblock and YouTube's ads growing really obnoxious, several people switch to Patreon for support which seems totally fine, because it's how you're actually supposed to use Patreon. With that in mind, when is retsupurae gonna get a Patreon?
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The Brown Menace posted:also it wasn't a bad review, he gave it a 6/10 iirc which is just meh (of course nowadays a 6/10 means that either the publisher was a cheapskate and wouldn't buy enough ads, or that the game is just so notoriously bad that others have started reporting how bad it is and now you can also call it bad and seek safety in numbers) Anything below an 8.5 is utter poo poo, and a failure on every level.
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Aug 26, 2014 18:59
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McGriddles are literally the grossest of all fast food items. I'd sooner eat a TacoBell burrito I found behind a furnace than eat a McGriddle.
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Aug 26, 2014 19:00
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I am so loving angry if I'm not getting the 100% true facts regarding whether or not the next bejeweled game is gonna continue featuring the orange gem.
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horriblePencilist posted:To be honest I'd support an honest writer on a site without ads via Patreon. That's what a lot of Youtubers do, actually. With so many people using adblock and YouTube's ads growing really obnoxious, several people switch to Patreon for support which seems totally fine, because it's how you're actually supposed to use Patreon. Support my Patreon and I'll emptyquote all your posts for a month
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Aug 26, 2014 19:02
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Lazyfire posted:Reminder that Polygon got $750,000 from Microsoft to do a documentary on how Polygon was going to change But that's Microsoft. They thought the world would poo poo it's pants over a DRM laden game console that has ads everywhere on it and a NSA camera you had to buy with it. Its akin to Ed Wood getting his money from southern baptists to make his poo poo films. Both sides of the deal are loving poo poo.
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Aug 26, 2014 19:02
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"6.0, it's ok" -jeff gerstman, gamespot
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The Brown Menace posted:plus honest reviews would lead to publisher blackballing which is pretty much suicide in a market as hyperactive as games "journalism" where having a review up one day before the other guy can make or break it
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the conclusion from all this is women don't make video games because women can't be manchildren
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Why don't people use adblock? Jesus. Is this seriously what the Internet looks like without it?
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ArbitraryC posted:Is there a way around this problem? It seems like game journalism requires cooperation with the industry otherwise you're pretty much stuck reviewing the game after everyone receives their preordered copies. Nah
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The Brown Menace posted:"6.0, it's ok" -jeff gerstman, gamespot Everyone should use 4/5 star system, it simplifies things. Or maybe just a thumbs-up/thumbs-down.
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dpbjinc posted:the conclusion from all this is women don't make video games because women can't be manchildren I think u'll find your sexist worldview is very outdated
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Aug 26, 2014 19:05
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I too think that goldberg is bizarre, but yummy
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Sephiroth_IRA posted:Why don't people use adblock? Jesus. Is this seriously what the Internet looks like without it? I don't use adblock because I can't be bothered. And no, most of the internet does not look like that.
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Lazyfire posted:Reminder that Polygon got $750,000 from Microsoft to do a documentary on how Polygon was going to change Polygon has a good article every now and again, but the opinion pieces are some of the worst out there. Also their format is still stupid as gently caress on a desktop because it's designed to be readable only on an ipad. Yes, I too enjoy seeing screenshots larger than my monitor can display slapped right in the middle of this review.
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You lot talking about independent game journalism and integrity forget that TotalBiscuit exists. Now imagine a dozen of TotalBiscuits setting up a news website.
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Sephiroth_IRA posted:Why don't people use adblock? Jesus. Is this seriously what the Internet looks like without it? McGriddles was from 2003, and I wish Goldberg would spear these dang MRA SJW PUA OAR W12 knuckleheads.
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ArbitraryC posted:Is there a way around this problem? It seems like game journalism requires cooperation with the industry otherwise you're pretty much stuck reviewing the game after everyone receives their preordered copies. The solution is the same one mainstream journalism came up with by getting ad revenue from several sources. The advantage of having a general news is that if one group of rich people decide to gently caress you, the others will keep you afloat making it theoretically harder to influence you. Also the people that hosed you will likely, eventually come back as bad press is still better than no press. All you have to do is make sure you just don't piss everyone off at the same time and make sure your profit margins aren't too tight. One of the things that's really loving newspapers these days is they don't have the margins they used to so now even losing one advertiser hurts a lot.
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Lobster Harmonica posted:Support my Patreon and I'll emptyquote all your posts for a month Something Awful microtransactions
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Paladinus posted:You lot talking about independent game journalism and integrity forget that TotalBiscuit exists. Now imagine a dozen of TotalBiscuits setting up a news website. Wake me up when the Angry Joe Show and his imitators band together to pretend to be mad about video games while wearing leather jackets inside like it is a thing.
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Supernorn posted:Polygon has a good article every now and again, but the opinion pieces are some of the worst out there. Also their format is still stupid as gently caress on a desktop because it's designed to be readable only on an ipad. Yes, I too enjoy seeing screenshots larger than my monitor can display slapped right in the middle of this review. They gave Gone Home a 10/10 and The Wonderful 101 a 6/10
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:Everyone should use 4/5 star system, it simplifies things. zoe already uses the 5 star system and it hasn't worked so well for her
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