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The Brown Menace posted:also appearing on their show multiple times and being all friendly with them and obviously having some sort of relationship outside of the boundaries of professionalism woah, they TALKED TO THE CREATORS?? holy poo poo their reviewer virginity is loving GONE!!! pretty sure jeff gerstmann had a good rant about this, because idiot children dont realize that of-loving-course reviewers talk to PR people, and then go on to trash their games anyway.
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The Brown Menace posted:this is idiotic because gone home was released more than 2 years after dragon age 2, and more than a year after mass effect 3, both massive AAA titles published by a multi-billion dollar company which included much more overt LGBT themes You can't be that stupid. In ME and DA all romantic relationships are pure fan service with no depth. And in those fantasy/sci-fi universes being gay changes loving nothing. Neither does being a woman, or black, or whatever. I don't say it's bad because misogyny, homophobia or whatever, but in those games it's not the focal point and it's not what those games are about (although romancing is loving shameful in Bioware games and I'd rather they got rid of it). You might as well have mentioned some hentai games where a guy turns into a girl and sexes everyone around. Gone Home explores LGBT issues and that's why one can see how it might be considered remarkable. You don't have to be an SJW to understand it.
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JediTalentAgent posted:Right now, as a slight derail, and I know that I can't explain this in any good way, but I'm sort of thinking a lot of some of this is coming from the 'games are art' audience of the industry. this is precisely the case in more or less all publications save for polygon, where it also played a role, along with the staff personally knowing and being friends with the developer
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lol that 47 second speedrun of gone home is the Depression Quest Remix
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slowbeef posted:Kinda have a feeling they're going to avoid it... At the moment they're still talking about what games they've been playing, haven't reached the "news" part yet.
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Aug 26, 2014 21:11
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The Brown Menace posted:this is precisely the case in more or less all publications save for polygon, where it also played a role, along with the staff personally knowing and being friends with the developer lol you probably didnt even realize that the people who write polygon reviews don't even assign the score. the editors decide that after reading the review ya dip
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Aug 26, 2014 21:12
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horriblePencilist posted:
that actually rules though because it was his response to being told he had to write a more factual/accurate review after his previous review of a sims dlc pack: 
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I assumed the interactive art instillation was free but it seems to cost actual money, how long can you draw it out if you didn't do the speedrunning? edit; gone home
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Aug 26, 2014 21:13
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jalopybrown posted:I assumed the interactive art instillation was free but it seems to cost actual money, how long can you draw it out if you didn't do the speedrunning? four minutes twenty seconds 
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jalopybrown posted:I assumed the interactive art instillation was free but it seems to cost actual money, how long can you draw it out if you didn't do the speedrunning? A couple of hours. But if you know the big 'twist' it's pretty dull. The subplot about your parents is completely underdeveloped and leads to no conclusion, so it's just a matter of how would a story of a lesbian sister resonate with you. Paladinus fucked around with this message at 21:19 on Aug 26, 2014 |
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Aug 26, 2014 21:16
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Suben posted:that actually rules though because it was his response to being told he had to write a more factual/accurate review after his previous review of a sims dlc pack: I like this "journalist"
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Aug 26, 2014 21:17
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Slanderer posted:lol you probably didnt even realize that the people who write polygon reviews don't even assign the score. the editors decide that after reading the review the positively glowering review, written by someone who has obviously absolutely nothing to do with the editor also the reviewer meets with the editors and they decide on the score together
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jalopybrown posted:I assumed the interactive art instillation was free but it seems to cost actual money, how long can you draw it out if you didn't do the speedrunning?
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Suben posted:that actually rules though because it was his response to being told he had to write a more factual/accurate review after his previous review of a sims dlc pack: This guy is hella rad, just look at his tweets.
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jalopybrown posted:I assumed the interactive art instillation was free but it seems to cost actual money, how long can you draw it out if you didn't do the speedrunning? about 4 hours. it was actually really cool for the art assets, since they were were able to create a place that felt sorta "real". most games will copy/paste objects as necessary in the game (since they are budgeted only for a limited number of unique assets for an area), but here basically everything was one-of-a-kind, which is impossible for games of bigger scope. the original $20 price was loving ludicrous though
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Fathis Munk posted:I like this "journalist" UK video game magazine industry was very weird. Either magazines were 100% shill 100% of the time or went on a mission to tear everything a new rear end in a top hat in a funny way if they possibly could.
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Top Comment: quote:Thank you for not quashing dissenting discussion. Thank you for confronting the issue head-on. Basically: thank you for taking journalism seriously. 
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Paladinus posted:A couple of hours. But since if you know the big 'twist' it's pretty dull. The subplot about your parents is completely underdeveloped and leads to no conclusion, so it's just the matter of how would a story of a lesbian sister resonate with you. Again, I think quite a few people including myself liked it because the story of your little sister discovering punk rock and independent identity in the 1990s resonated with them. Reducing it to "your sister is a lesbian" is disingenuous.
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Aug 26, 2014 21:21
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The Brown Menace posted:the positively glowering review, written by someone who has obviously absolutely nothing to do with the editor when i am a famous indie game developer i will follow every reviewer in the world on twitter, thus preventing them from giving unbiased negative reviews of my garbage 8bit platformer
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Aug 26, 2014 21:21
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Slanderer posted:when i am a famous indie game developer i will follow every reviewer in the world on twitter, thus preventing them from giving unbiased negative reviews of my garbage 8bit platformer whats your transvestite indie game jam name
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Aug 26, 2014 21:23
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Mister Fister posted:Top Comment: "There's nothing wrong with game journalism! You're just all misogynists!" "Thank you Kotaku for taking this issue seriously!"
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gently caress the ROW posted:whats your transvestite indie game jam name The Gender Warrior
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Slanderer posted:when i am a famous indie game developer i will follow every reviewer in the world on twitter, thus preventing them from giving unbiased negative reviews of my garbage 8bit platformer there's a bit of a stretch between merely following on twitter as opposed to shmoozing it up irl on record, and unbiased negative reviews as opposed to 10/10 masterpiece would you like to keep playing, orrrr...
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Aug 26, 2014 21:28
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precision posted:Again, I think quite a few people including myself liked it because the story of your little sister discovering punk rock and independent identity in the 1990s resonated with them. Reducing it to "your sister is a lesbian" is disingenuous. It was specifically about riot grrrl type of punk, which is crucial to the story. As I said, I don't care much about the lesbian angle, but I guess the fact that I don't like punk has also something to do with how Gone Home did nothing to me. Now let's get back to jokes about cucking.
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zoe quinn "followed my twitter" if you catch my drift.. heh
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Mister Fister posted:Top Comment: Man I can't wait till these guys start outright yelling "4 legs good, 2 legs bad!"
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Aug 26, 2014 21:31
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let me help you: "lol you are mad" "lol you care about video games" "lol you are mad, about the video games, the jeux video" good places to go next, these always work
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precision posted:Again, I think quite a few people including myself liked it because the story of your little sister discovering punk rock and independent identity in the 1990s resonated with them. Reducing it to "your sister is a lesbian" is disingenuous. It's not really a game is probably the bigger issue, considering you go around reading the 90's version of audio logs no one likes in any game on the market and then seeing posters for bands that are just like the game: overhyped garbage.
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The Brown Menace posted:there's a bit of a stretch between merely following on twitter as opposed to shmoozing it up irl on record, and unbiased negative reviews as opposed to 10/10 masterpiece haha you still think a 10/10 score means it's the PERFECT GAME. that's retarded as hell
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Slanderer posted:haha you still think a 10/10 score means it's the PERFECT GAME. that's retarded as hell nope, just not a score it would have received without outside factors
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the message here is that you can make a glorified light switch simulator into media gold as long as it involves a marginalized character at some point along the way
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Slanderer posted:haha you still think a 10/10 score means it's the PERFECT GAME. that's retarded as hell not so much "PERFECT" as "comparable to the standard set by other games that may be regarded as a 10 out of 10" it's a joke comparing gone home to a mario galaxy or an age of empires 2 or whatever
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Rad Tad posted:i'm my first 60 minutes into using the chrome extension that removes patrick klepek stories from giant bomb. you should audibly hear the largest champagne bottle in the world popping open in the distance when it happens, no worries
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horriblePencilist posted:
PC ZONE 4 evr. They were also once sent a military style crate with toys and t-shirts in it, long before it was the norm to accessorize every loving game with plastic poo poo, and they called out the company on their obvious bribe attempt and gave the swag away to readers. Also Charlie Brooker reviews were ace <3
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The Brown Menace posted:nope, just not a score it would have received without outside factors "well, sure OTHER publications gave it a great score, but THIS publication wouldnt have done it if not for TWITTER NEPOTISM" Lobster Harmonica posted:not so much "PERFECT" as "comparable to the standard set by other games that may be regarded as a 10 out of 10" pretty sure the standard was "i really enjoyed that game and there wasnt really anything about it i disliked a whole lot. namaste"
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The Brown Menace posted:you should audibly hear the largest champagne bottle in the world popping open in the distance when it happens, no worries It'll be all over the internet because he seems like the exact kind of person who will talk to anyone who will listen about how his first amendment rights were being trampled because Jeff Gerstman finally realized Klepek was a complete drag on the company. Don't let the trolls win featuring Zoe Quinn was a goddamn PAX panel. Being involved in that is a good reason to fire anyone.
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Slanderer posted:pretty sure the standard was "i really enjoyed that game and there wasnt really anything about it i disliked a whole lot. namaste" ok
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