CuckQuest+: A Tale of Five Guys and a Lady? {read the OP}

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juliuspringle: Jul 7, 2007

QUEEN CAUCUS posted:

I don't think 4chan wants the hog

No one wants the hog, outside of the five previous owners of the aforementioned hog.

# ? Aug 27, 2014 19:52

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# ? May 16, 2024 14:55

DrPlump: Oct 5, 2004; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

I am going to make a game called social justice quest. It is an interactive story game so there is no actual action or visual effects. You control a twitter account with 9000+ followers. You must use this account to shut down problematic users and signal boost righteous causes. The other Twitter accounts are a mix of bots and other players.

The game has no ending and no progress is ever made. Also in a surprise twist your character is a lesbian.

I am just looking for someone to code the game and a couple people to market/review it.

# ? Aug 27, 2014 19:55

Lobster Harmonica: Jul 15, 2005

FAROOQ posted:

Not responding is clearly an acceptance of guilt

More than anything I just hate the argument "false rape accusations almost never occur, therefore all rape accusations must be assumed true" that I see getting unironically used in every comment thread regarding Fat Cards Guy

One it's basically a logical paradox, and two I've known my fair share of pathological liars and they pop into my head anytime I see someone pushing that stance

# ? Aug 27, 2014 19:55

Biggie Shorty: Oct 8, 2008

gently caress the ROW posted:

that's dog slavery and its not cool

Uhm yes as a self-identified dog-slave I'll kindly have to ask you not to speak for me

# ? Aug 27, 2014 19:55

Forums Barber: Jan 5, 2011

juliuspringle posted:

No one wants the hog, outside of the five previous owners of the aforementioned hog.

those guys were practically unfuckable and she still had to use her borderline personality disorder wiles to ensnare them, nobody involved is in any way sexually appealing.

# ? Aug 27, 2014 19:55

George H.W. Cunt: Oct 6, 2010

Paladinus posted:

Wait, isn't this guy's only claim to fame that he shits out thousands of comments on youtube every day, so people eventually started noticing him?

ah a modern tila tequila

# ? Aug 27, 2014 19:57

Forums Barber: Jan 5, 2011

XK posted:

What does SA have to do with this exchange?

the mods left this one thread up of the four that were discussing Zoe

therefore SA didn't respond appropriately by banning discussion of the topic

# ? Aug 27, 2014 19:57

turnways: Jun 22, 2004

Spanish Manlove posted:

For once I'm proud of you dorks

hey for the first time in a while we beat them out in photoshops at least :unsmith:

# ? Aug 27, 2014 19:58

FAROOQ: Aug 20, 2014; by Smythe

Lobster Harmonica posted:

More than anything I just hate the argument "false rape accusations almost never occur, therefore all rape accusations must be assumed true" that I see getting unironically used in every comment thread regarding Fat Cards Guy

One it's basically a logical paradox, and two I've known my fair share of pathological liars and they pop into my head anytime I see someone pushing that stance

the flaw in the reasoning is that false rapes are very rarely reported to the police, but it's doesn't need go that far to ruin a life.

# ? Aug 27, 2014 19:59

fuck the ROW: Aug 29, 2008; by zen death robot

GBS is all about freedom, like the rebellion in Star Wars (the original trilogy)

the Games subforum though... well, they're standing with Zoe Quinn

edit: ive been informed its ableism to imply that people who post in games are physically capable of standing

# ? Aug 27, 2014 20:00

ate shit on live tv: Feb 15, 2004; by Azathoth

Lobster Harmonica posted:

Anita Sarkeesian is this decade's Jack Thompson, unironically

Hopefully she'll be forgotten quicker then jack thompson was

# ? Aug 27, 2014 20:00

Shadoer: Aug 31, 2011; Zoe Quinn is one of many women targeted by the Gamergate harassment campaign.

Support a feminist today!

Xaris posted:

As Gaming Editor here, I get to play a lot of video games. I love the gaming medium; I think it�s got the potential to define the 21st century as much as film defined the 20th. I also get to experience the gaming community and industry, which can be a wonderful place. There are a lot of genuinely positive people out there making groundbreaking interactive art, and similarly positive people playing it.

Cool!

Xaris posted:

But it�s hard to self-identify as �a gamer� when there�s also a large swathe of that community apparently committed to presenting us all as a bunch of hateful sociopaths. It�s like being a moderate Muslim in the middle of the continuing ISIS takeover and oppression of Iraq. A few weeks ago, I�d have said that was an extreme analogy, but given the events of the past week, it�s become clear that it�s actually really loving appropriate.

Uhh... I think an ISIS takeover is still an extreme analogy, but let's see where you go with this.

Xaris posted:

I�ll get to this week�s events in a minute. But first: some context. And a warning, because there�s some truly horrible, misanthropic stuff in here that I unfortunately have to repeat in order to discuss.

No problem.

Xaris posted:

Layfolk who don�t frequent gaming websites may not be aware (but certainly won�t be surprised) that there are rampant issues with sexism, homophobia, and racism within the gaming industry. There are too many examples of misogyny from employers, readers, or fans to count, but a prominent, representative example - now ballooned to ludicrous proportions - is the continued harassment of video blogger and media commentator Anita Sarkeesian. Sarkeesian is the creator of webseries like Feminist Frequency and the excellent Tropes Vs. Women In Video Games, which critically examine the games industry's treatment of women in its products. As a result, she has suffered literal years of online abuse like denial-of-service attacks, rape threats, Web vandalism, and attempts at �doxing� or distributing personal information online, not to mention unceasing abuse in the form of tweets, emails, and internet comments. Some astonishingly awful creatures even made a video game consisting of nothing but punching Sarkeesian�s face into oblivion. What crime has Sarkeesian committed to deserve this treatment? Merely speaking up about the fact that, y�know, women aren�t portrayed all that well in video games. And Sarkeesian isn�t alone - attacks on female gamers, game developers and game journalists happen all the time, with a mob mentality bordering on the rabid.

But the counter argument is that everyone who goes onto the internet get's harassed to some extent. Just by playing Starcraft 2 I can guarantee that in 1 of my 10 random games I play, the guy is going to talk about how much I suck and that I'm mentally retarded. Granted women likely do get it worse, but there's been numerous studies that show that once people are anonymous on the internet they can become horrific people and troll for the sake of trolling regardless of gender or race.

Xaris posted:

One developer targeted this week (a phrase I have to use because multiple developers were targeted this week) was Fez creator Phil Fish, whose website was taken down, gigabytes of personal information (including banking details and emails) leaked, and Twitter accounts hacked. Fish has always been a volatile personality, but his tweets prior to shutting down his Twitter paint a particularly dismal picture of the gaming community:

this is videogames. this is what i get. this is unacceptable. this is not okay. terrorist. never again, you hear me? never again. this is videogames. this is your audience. to every aspiring game developer out there: don�t. give up. it�s not worth it. nothing is worth this. give up on your dreams. they are actually nightmares. just don�t do it. RUN AWAY. RUN AWAY. i would like to announce that POLYTRON and the FEZ IP are now for sale. no reasonable offer will be turned down. i am done. i want out. [...] you should all be ashamed.
Fish�s �public execution� was served in retaliation for his support of Depression Quest developer Zoe Quinn. Depression Quest is great, and its designer is one of the most interesting figures in the industry. Quinn fell victim to an enormous, organised campaign of harassment over the week that also included doxing, account hacking, the distribution of nude photographs, and even obscene phone calls to family members. These attacks were followed up by attempts to cover up the hacks and present Quinn as a liar and a hoax artist. I�m not going to link to the original �accusations� the gaming rogues gallery heaped upon Quinn, but suffice it to say that they first surfaced in a lengthy, narcissistic rant by a jilted ex-boyfriend, and they�re all either demonstrably untrue or just none of anybody�s loving business.

Yeah it's pretty clear that Phil either hacked himself or had to be breathtakingly stupid to let this happen. Like you can look back on this thread and find tons of evidence that indicate that it had to be Phil or someone close to his company. Also I note that you haven't noted the example of the Fine Young Capitalists Indiegogo campaign for charity being hacked.

However let's just review the things about Phil quickly

1. The Hacker stole all of the SIN Numbers, bank account info, and everything needed to steal their identities. Then the hacker put it in a zip file and put it out on the internet so the information would become useless as now any transaction made can be reversed. This was done rather than collecting a hard earned $100,000.

2. Fish was never named in the scandal until the alleged hacking occurred. Before that he was just Zoe's rear end in a top hat friend on twitter.

3. Collecting all of that information and organizing it actually takes considerable time and effort and patience. Most hackers would have went with the first few tidbits they had, or search email for actually socially damaging info.

4. The compression used for the file isn't one normally used in households. It's instead a different one that sees use in the software industry.

5. The file also was not put on various torrent sites and other places, instead it was left on an webserver Fish could easily take it down from.

6. Loading a file in the gigabytes of size while hacking a webserver is next to impossible.

7. For some reason Fish's Twitter account wasn't hacked.

8. The server required double authentication from a computer it wasn't used to. This immediately takes it to a more advanced level of hacking and effort.

9. Fish was likely going to sell everything anyways. Fez 2 was dead and there were no big games coming down the pipe from Fish's company. This incident allows him to up his profile for a sale that was probably coming anyways while also allowing him to leave on a morale high note as opposed to a failure note.

Xaris posted:

The centrepiece of the attacks was a claim that Quinn cheated on that then-boyfriend with a Kotaku writer and got a favourable review of Depression Quest in return. Yes, this tsunami of harassment was concealed beneath a smug, paper-thin veil of �exposing corruption�. Yet the writer in question never reviewed Depression Quest, which leaves only personal attacks on Quinn�s sexuality. I don�t know if they�re true or not, but it doesn�t matter. A sex life belongs to one person and one person alone, and what these attacks amount to is misogynistic slut-shaming. A woman exercised autonomy as a sexual being. Who cares? That�s her right as an individual, regardless of whether it fits anyone else�s moral standards. Only the people directly involved get to have an opinion on it, and nobody gets to systematically bombard anyone with abuse over it. The abusers bleat that it�s not slut-shaming, but claims of sexual �misbehaviour� represent the entire attempted substance of the attacks. Without them, there is nothing left.

If it had been a man at the centre of the controversy, the attacks would never have happened. If a woman posted a rant as psychotic as Quinn�s ex did, she�d be lynched as a �crazy bitch� by the very same people currently holding up a blog post as incontrovertible proof of Quinn�s �guilt�, and the man in question would be Internet high-fived for getting some. The original accusations were 0% about �exposing corruption in the gaming industry� and 100% about emotional revenge - and the subsequent attacks about hatred, pure and simple.

There is no justification for this behaviour. Even if there was some journalistic slight committed, there is no world in which taking over people�s accounts or websites, publishing their personal information, and swamping them with personal attacks is an appropriate, proportional response. The only explanation is hate.

You realize few people, if anyone are claiming there's a review of Depression Quest. The main thing is the suspicious as hell Game Jam article he wrote that did feature Quinn that he totally did write and incidentally helped promote Quinn's "Rebel Game Jam" that accepts donations to her paypal account right? An incident that lost one guy his job?

Also none of these people had any problems covering other sex scandals that had far less "evidence" behind them.

Xaris posted:

Because, you see, the Video Gaming Internet can be a horrible place. Hiding behind infinite fake Twitter accounts and message-board anonymity are some of the worst examples of humanity. The abuse gushes forth in such torrents that reporting tweets becomes almost useless. You block or report one anonymous, anime-avatared account, and fifteen more take its place: fifteen more slackly flapping mouthpieces for cowardly, whining crybaby manchildren. (Because they are always, always men.) It�s so bad that hacker groups like Lizard Squad have gone so far as to commit real, actual acts of terrorism, like calling in bomb threats to a plane carrying Sony Online Entertainment chief John Smedley. The internet lit up with shock that gamers had sunk to the level of real, actual terrorism, but the sad truth of the matter is that terrorism had been going on for far longer. Terrorism is terrorism regardless of whether the target is a nation, an institution, a vehicle or an individual.

The attacks come from all over the internet, but the fires are fueled by the fan of message-board sites like 4chan. 4chan is the cauldron from whence Anonymous spewed forth, but while Anonymous typically select oppressive institutions as targets for their online vigilantism, perilously straddling the line between hacktivism and dickery, vanilla 4chan is a different story. Its users still use the same tactics - denial of service attacks, theft and leaking of information, server-bombing, and so on - but they frequently, and certainly in this case, use them for evil. Making enemies with 4chan is a dangerous prospect simply thanks to how relentless they can be. They get off on causing others �butthurt,� and there�s a cavalier lust for LOLs in how they discuss and act on their varying hatreds that�s extremely dispiriting.

So who are these people? What do they want? I�ve spent way more time than I�d like to have looking into them, ruining my YouTube recommendations in the process.

Well the entire internet is a scary and wonderful place. And while 4chan is a part of that, it's not the only part of it.

Xaris posted:

See the guys up in the header image? They�re Jordan Owen and Davis Aurini, the utterly predictable faces of a Patreon crowdfunding campaign (currently seeking a laughable $15,000 per month) called The Sarkeesian Effect. Owen and Aurini are the tip of the iceberg when it comes to the conservative-misogynist gamer movement, but they�ve put their creepy mugs out there more than others, so I�m more than happy to give them some publicity as representatives of their kind. Their proposed webseries aims to �explore how gaming and tech culture have been hijacked by Social Justice Warriors as well as look into the background, ethics, and methodology of some the movement's most prominent voices.� The crowdfunding video represents possibly the longest eight minutes you will experience this week (warning: contains delusional sociopaths). Watch it if you love cringing at self-satisfied cretins; I�m not embedding that poo poo on Badass Digest.

�Social Justice Warriors� is a term used often by these sort of people, and it�s a term whose pejorative use perplexes me, because aside from the source of its invention, it sounds like a really badass thing to be. I�d much rather label myself a Social Justice Warrior than a warrior for...whatever it is that these people are warriors for. Social justice is such an inherently positive thing - literally everyone benefits from greater equality - that it�s impossible to see its enemies as anything but sociopathic. Hatred of Social Justice Warriors can be seen as a broader hatred of social justice itself.

Central to the self-centred psychology of these people is that they see themselves as the targets of a grand conspiracy of feminist, progressive journalists and game developers that seeks to destroy their ability to...something. They have no actual issue. It�s all perceived persecution at the hands of political correctness. These �theories� are so narcissistic, so devoid of substance, that the only way to explain them is through delusion. And I mean, I get it - justifying one�s lovely behaviour with a made-up conspiracy probably feels better than confronting the painful truth that one is an rear end in a top hat. They think they�re part of a �silent majority�, but the real silent majority is the one that either isn�t aware of their ridiculous conspiracy theories, or understands that there�s simply no reasoning with people who are so obviously out of their minds. It�s the same kind of fictional oppression old white folks claim about foreign immigrants who are still generally less well-off than they are. The moment a woman - or even someone who empathises with women - muscles in on �their� territory (which hasn�t actually ever been �theirs�), they�re off, spouting slurs, giving the fingers at intersections, and publishing their banking details on hate sites.

And the thing is, there is no persecution. Social Justice Warriors don�t victimise anyone. That�s kind of central to the idea of social justice. Yes, developers and journalists like Zoe Quinn and Anita Sarkeesian speak loudly about feminism and equality, but it�s not to attack self-involved lunatics like Jordan Owen and Davis Aurini. It�s because they actually stand for something - for people to behave like decent human beings and treat each other with respect - as opposed to rallying against viewpoints that aren�t compatible with Middle Ages-era opinions about gender and equality. And sure, technically misogynists have a right to say whatever they want, but they don�t deserve to be listened to - especially not when their world view is couched in hate speech, online predation and emotional violence. The world does not owe them a single second of airtime.

Yeah just censor people and eliminate freedom of speech whenever they feel like it. Few people have a problem with feminism and few would argue that there isn't a problem in the world with how society treats women. However the Social Justice Warriors are basically the Magneto's of the movement.

Xaris posted:

Why are these people so terrible? Is it games that are doing it?

The inevitable #NotAllGamers hashtag has sprung up on Twitter in the past few days, and I get where that comes from. I play video games too, and I�m not a total dick! Hooray for me. But I also think the hashtag misses the point in the same self-serving way that #NotAllMen did. This is a problem endemic to gaming, and everyone is part of that problem. There is a culture of harassment, abuse, and bigotry in the rotten core of multiplayer gaming; it has been allowed or even encouraged to fester by developers; and it has created some of the most toxic individuals on the Internet.

As stated earlier, abuse has been around in games far longer than just this week. Seas of bile and hatred are poured onto developers by fans, or onto journalists by fans, or onto other fans by fans, every single day. BioWare writers have been targeted by death threats for daring to end a game their way. The comments section of virtually every mainstream gaming site is invariably filled with vitriol. What is it about gamers that fills them with such fury? Why can gamers only seem to interact with the world in a hateful manner? For an industry ostensibly built on fun, it�s a bizarre way to go about existing.

I have a friend who plays a lot of Call of Duty. He�s a brilliant comedian whose name you�ll probably know in the future, though I won�t mention it here. One of his favourite aspects of the game is verbally abusing other players - he LOVES it. It�s another game within a game. But it doesn�t matter if you�re the funniest or cleverest abusive dick on a server - you�re still being an abusive dick, and you�re still perpetuating a problem that has visibly grown way past that comparatively innocent context and into actual terrorism.

There�s no reputable research that states violent video games create violent video gamers, but I�d be curious to see whether they create abusive ones. At this point, abuse and harassment are as ingrained into gamer culture as headshots and killstreaks - but the difference between the two is that while the violence is fake, the abuse is real. That is a real person on the other end of the in-game chat line. It even extends outside of matches, with one player proving such a sore loser that he called a SWAT team on the kid who beat him.

Is there some sense that the consequence-free world of gaming is bleeding over into the real world? When Lizard Squad take down Sony�s servers and tweet �gg [good game] Sony,� you get the sense that to these people, it�s all a game. There�s a fundamental lack of empathy or understanding for other human beings at play here. These people live in a hosed-up alternate universe where everything is done for the lulz, or to win points in some kind of psychopathic game of one-upmanship. What we�re seeing is the gamification of a social struggle. It�s not about making salient points for these people (not that they had any to begin with) - it�s about winning. It�s the result of decades of seeing everything as a win/lose scenario, only now the no-holds-barred competition of Street Fighter is being manifested in the real world. These people will do anything they can to win, regardless of whether it�s morally or even legally acceptable. And they get away with it!

Again this is part of the thing that comes with anonymity here...

Xaris posted:

Before the internet, this didn�t happen -

Cause there was barely an industry?

Xaris posted:

but places like 4chan give these people an echo chamber in which to shout at each other and firm up their sick worldviews, free from the influence of outside opinion. It�s logical and inevitable that the flames will snarl out from inside the fireplace. And for what? What is the goal of these people? I don�t even really want to know. It feels like they�ll just keep going, going, going, until there�s no more good people in the world and all that�s left is a bunch of antisocial rear end in a top hat bros high-fiving each other with memes.

You also get the creeping suspicion that even winning won�t be enough. When will they have they won? What are their demands? As far as can be seen, there are none - the campaign exists solely to constantly harrass and abuse people until they disappear. That�s the endgame - the destruction of individuals whose only crime is making comments about sexism - or worse, being sexually active. From the smirking tone adopted by Lizard Squad and more, it is hard to avoid paraphrasing what must also be a favourite movie amongst the attackers: some men just want to watch women burn.

You realize 4chan raised like $20,000 for that women's chairty right?

Xaris posted:

It�s odd that a medium unique in its ability to put its players in the shoes of others has created people so closed-minded.

Oh that's ironic.

Xaris posted:

Though women are not the only targets of abuse and harassment in the gaming community and industry,

Finally some sense.

Xaris posted:

they certainly bear a sad, disproportionate bulk of it.

Maybe... honestly I think you are right, but there's never been a study done on it yet.

Xaris posted:

What makes gamers so uncomfortable when women start making or talking about games?

Also honestly, most gamers find a woman interested in video games a massive turn on. Not sure uncomfortable is a good way of describing it.

Xaris posted:

I think it comes down, ultimately, to a fear of change. A lot of these people take to games as a way to escape from the lives in which they see themselves as downtrodden or rejected by women - escaping and moaning at other escapees rather than confronting the root cause of the rejection. When women pierce their little men�s-rights bubble of gamerhood and question the long-standing sexist elements of gaming they hold so dear, they see it as an act of vandalism, taking away something that belongs to them. That�s when they become a pack of wolves and set upon the �evil feminists�.

The ultimate, hilarious irony to these douchebags� worldview is that they claim to want gaming to be taken seriously. In their blinkered eyes, women are ruining gaming, because in their blinkered eyes, change that benefits anyone other than them is inherently bad. But feminist criticism can only be a boon to the games industry. It�s something shared by literally every other art form in existence, and game developers and journalists examining the very real issues in their industry can only improve gaming�s image. The irony of whinging that people like Quinn and Sarkeesian - whose tireless development, community-building and critical analysis help the industry immeasurably - give the games industry a bad name, while apparently believing that bullying and infighting is going to make the industry look like Amnesty International, is just too loving hilarious.

The real reason for gaming�s poor image is the aggressive, hateful people complaining about Social Justice Warriors in the first place. It is the Ayn Rand-loving pustules who spend their days ranting on message boards or Youtube about feminist conspiracies. It is ONLY THEM. Gaming will never be "taken seriously" when its self-styled bannermen are such vile cretins. When the media coverage - as it does, and it should - focuses on the behaviour of an amorphous minority group bent on online abuse, that is the image of gamers projected to the world. Because of these people, all gamers are painted with the same brush as cowardly, sociopathic losers.

You know most gamers don't really have a problem with it at all... however being called cowardly sociopathic losers is pretty offensive.

Xaris posted:

So what can we do?

Agree that change takes time and comes with better education? Feminisim shouldn't be a shield to deflect from obvious corruption? All speech should be free speech?

Xaris posted:

Thankfully, people like Quinn and Sarkeesian have proven stronger of character than the petty, cowardly people who would destroy them. They�re carrying on making games, encouraging further game development, and applying a critical eye to the world of gaming, and that�s a pretty fine example of how to go about ameliorating this problem.

The only way the ecosystem can improve is through the involvement of more women, more LGBT people, more of anyone who doesn�t conform to the white gamer-bro stereotype. That is exactly what the Twitter terrorists seek to prevent, and awesomely, is exactly what�s happening. Female gamers are rapidly on the rise - 48% of gamers are female, and adult females now double the number of the once-central under-18 boy demographic - and the collected assholes of the world can�t do anything about it. Women play games. If you can�t deal with that, maybe there�s something fundamental to your worldview you need to examine.

Well yeah more women play games, I'd like to see where that 48% number comes from though.

Xaris posted:

It is the responsibility of every gamer to behave better. Many of us do behave nicely, but because negativity sticks in the mind so painfully, it will take a massive sea change in attitude to make the gaming environment better. So next time you�re playing a game, pay attention to the behaviour of yourself and those playing with you. Make a joking comment in an online shooter about the other team getting �raped�? You�re part of the problem. See someone getting abused in a game or on Twitter, and do nothing about it? You�re part of the problem. We have to show that the silent majority belongs to the side of good.

More and more people are getting fed up with trolls and terrorists and are doing something, even if it�s just reporting tweets or writing lengthy blog posts. Even I have tasted Twitter bullying for supporting Zoe Quinn (because I�m obviously trying to get laid! Lulz!), and I�m sure I�ll get a full meal of it now, but gently caress those guys. The more people who sit back and let injustice happen, the more injustice will happen, and I�m sick of injustice.

Great so you will help make all of these corrupt journalists be held accountable?!

Xaris posted:

So let�s be thankful for the heroes who are making gaming culture a better place, and let�s try to be better human beings. We need it. Our hobby, passion and livelihood need it. Hell, the world needs it. Hopefully we can all look back one day with cringing bemusement at what total dicks these people were. But for now, we have to keep fighting the good fight.

Because these cancerous fucks don�t get to claim the word �gamer�.

Oh we just all have to be nicer to each other, sing kumbai-ah and poo poo... yeah that's never been a solution

# ? Aug 27, 2014 20:01

N. Senada: May 17, 2011; My kidneys are busted

Xaris posted:

As Gaming Editor here, I get to play a lot of video games. I love the gaming medium; I think it�s got the potential to define the 21st century as much as film defined the 20th. I also get to experience the gaming community and industry, which can be a wonderful place. There are a lot of genuinely positive people out there making groundbreaking interactive art, and similarly positive people playing it.

But it�s hard to self-identify as �a gamer� when there�s also a large swathe of that community apparently committed to presenting us all as a bunch of hateful sociopaths. It�s like being a moderate Muslim in the middle of the continuing ISIS takeover and oppression of Iraq. A few weeks ago, I�d have said that was an extreme analogy, but given the events of the past week, it�s become clear that it�s actually really loving appropriate.

I�ll get to this week�s events in a minute. But first: some context. And a warning, because there�s some truly horrible, misanthropic stuff in here that I unfortunately have to repeat in order to discuss.

Layfolk who don�t frequent gaming websites may not be aware (but certainly won�t be surprised) that there are rampant issues with sexism, homophobia, and racism within the gaming industry. There are too many examples of misogyny from employers, readers, or fans to count, but a prominent, representative example - now ballooned to ludicrous proportions - is the continued harassment of video blogger and media commentator Anita Sarkeesian. Sarkeesian is the creator of webseries like Feminist Frequency and the excellent Tropes Vs. Women In Video Games, which critically examine the games industry's treatment of women in its products. As a result, she has suffered literal years of online abuse like denial-of-service attacks, rape threats, Web vandalism, and attempts at �doxing� or distributing personal information online, not to mention unceasing abuse in the form of tweets, emails, and internet comments. Some astonishingly awful creatures even made a video game consisting of nothing but punching Sarkeesian�s face into oblivion. What crime has Sarkeesian committed to deserve this treatment? Merely speaking up about the fact that, y�know, women aren�t portrayed all that well in video games. And Sarkeesian isn�t alone - attacks on female gamers, game developers and game journalists happen all the time, with a mob mentality bordering on the rabid.

One developer targeted this week (a phrase I have to use because multiple developers were targeted this week) was Fez creator Phil Fish, whose website was taken down, gigabytes of personal information (including banking details and emails) leaked, and Twitter accounts hacked. Fish has always been a volatile personality, but his tweets prior to shutting down his Twitter paint a particularly dismal picture of the gaming community:

this is videogames. this is what i get. this is unacceptable. this is not okay. terrorist. never again, you hear me? never again. this is videogames. this is your audience. to every aspiring game developer out there: don�t. give up. it�s not worth it. nothing is worth this. give up on your dreams. they are actually nightmares. just don�t do it. RUN AWAY. RUN AWAY. i would like to announce that POLYTRON and the FEZ IP are now for sale. no reasonable offer will be turned down. i am done. i want out. [...] you should all be ashamed.
Fish�s �public execution� was served in retaliation for his support of Depression Quest developer Zoe Quinn. Depression Quest is great, and its designer is one of the most interesting figures in the industry. Quinn fell victim to an enormous, organised campaign of harassment over the week that also included doxing, account hacking, the distribution of nude photographs, and even obscene phone calls to family members. These attacks were followed up by attempts to cover up the hacks and present Quinn as a liar and a hoax artist. I�m not going to link to the original �accusations� the gaming rogues gallery heaped upon Quinn, but suffice it to say that they first surfaced in a lengthy, narcissistic rant by a jilted ex-boyfriend, and they�re all either demonstrably untrue or just none of anybody�s loving business.

The centrepiece of the attacks was a claim that Quinn cheated on that then-boyfriend with a Kotaku writer and got a favourable review of Depression Quest in return. Yes, this tsunami of harassment was concealed beneath a smug, paper-thin veil of �exposing corruption�. Yet the writer in question never reviewed Depression Quest, which leaves only personal attacks on Quinn�s sexuality. I don�t know if they�re true or not, but it doesn�t matter. A sex life belongs to one person and one person alone, and what these attacks amount to is misogynistic slut-shaming. A woman exercised autonomy as a sexual being. Who cares? That�s her right as an individual, regardless of whether it fits anyone else�s moral standards. Only the people directly involved get to have an opinion on it, and nobody gets to systematically bombard anyone with abuse over it. The abusers bleat that it�s not slut-shaming, but claims of sexual �misbehaviour� represent the entire attempted substance of the attacks. Without them, there is nothing left.

If it had been a man at the centre of the controversy, the attacks would never have happened. If a woman posted a rant as psychotic as Quinn�s ex did, she�d be lynched as a �crazy bitch� by the very same people currently holding up a blog post as incontrovertible proof of Quinn�s �guilt�, and the man in question would be Internet high-fived for getting some. The original accusations were 0% about �exposing corruption in the gaming industry� and 100% about emotional revenge - and the subsequent attacks about hatred, pure and simple.

There is no justification for this behaviour. Even if there was some journalistic slight committed, there is no world in which taking over people�s accounts or websites, publishing their personal information, and swamping them with personal attacks is an appropriate, proportional response. The only explanation is hate.

Because, you see, the Video Gaming Internet can be a horrible place. Hiding behind infinite fake Twitter accounts and message-board anonymity are some of the worst examples of humanity. The abuse gushes forth in such torrents that reporting tweets becomes almost useless. You block or report one anonymous, anime-avatared account, and fifteen more take its place: fifteen more slackly flapping mouthpieces for cowardly, whining crybaby manchildren. (Because they are always, always men.) It�s so bad that hacker groups like Lizard Squad have gone so far as to commit real, actual acts of terrorism, like calling in bomb threats to a plane carrying Sony Online Entertainment chief John Smedley. The internet lit up with shock that gamers had sunk to the level of real, actual terrorism, but the sad truth of the matter is that terrorism had been going on for far longer. Terrorism is terrorism regardless of whether the target is a nation, an institution, a vehicle or an individual.

The attacks come from all over the internet, but the fires are fueled by the fan of message-board sites like 4chan. 4chan is the cauldron from whence Anonymous spewed forth, but while Anonymous typically select oppressive institutions as targets for their online vigilantism, perilously straddling the line between hacktivism and dickery, vanilla 4chan is a different story. Its users still use the same tactics - denial of service attacks, theft and leaking of information, server-bombing, and so on - but they frequently, and certainly in this case, use them for evil. Making enemies with 4chan is a dangerous prospect simply thanks to how relentless they can be. They get off on causing others �butthurt,� and there�s a cavalier lust for LOLs in how they discuss and act on their varying hatreds that�s extremely dispiriting.

So who are these people? What do they want? I�ve spent way more time than I�d like to have looking into them, ruining my YouTube recommendations in the process.

See the guys up in the header image? They�re Jordan Owen and Davis Aurini, the utterly predictable faces of a Patreon crowdfunding campaign (currently seeking a laughable $15,000 per month) called The Sarkeesian Effect. Owen and Aurini are the tip of the iceberg when it comes to the conservative-misogynist gamer movement, but they�ve put their creepy mugs out there more than others, so I�m more than happy to give them some publicity as representatives of their kind. Their proposed webseries aims to �explore how gaming and tech culture have been hijacked by Social Justice Warriors as well as look into the background, ethics, and methodology of some the movement's most prominent voices.� The crowdfunding video represents possibly the longest eight minutes you will experience this week (warning: contains delusional sociopaths). Watch it if you love cringing at self-satisfied cretins; I�m not embedding that poo poo on Badass Digest.

�Social Justice Warriors� is a term used often by these sort of people, and it�s a term whose pejorative use perplexes me, because aside from the source of its invention, it sounds like a really badass thing to be. I�d much rather label myself a Social Justice Warrior than a warrior for...whatever it is that these people are warriors for. Social justice is such an inherently positive thing - literally everyone benefits from greater equality - that it�s impossible to see its enemies as anything but sociopathic. Hatred of Social Justice Warriors can be seen as a broader hatred of social justice itself.

Central to the self-centred psychology of these people is that they see themselves as the targets of a grand conspiracy of feminist, progressive journalists and game developers that seeks to destroy their ability to...something. They have no actual issue. It�s all perceived persecution at the hands of political correctness. These �theories� are so narcissistic, so devoid of substance, that the only way to explain them is through delusion. And I mean, I get it - justifying one�s lovely behaviour with a made-up conspiracy probably feels better than confronting the painful truth that one is an rear end in a top hat. They think they�re part of a �silent majority�, but the real silent majority is the one that either isn�t aware of their ridiculous conspiracy theories, or understands that there�s simply no reasoning with people who are so obviously out of their minds. It�s the same kind of fictional oppression old white folks claim about foreign immigrants who are still generally less well-off than they are. The moment a woman - or even someone who empathises with women - muscles in on �their� territory (which hasn�t actually ever been �theirs�), they�re off, spouting slurs, giving the fingers at intersections, and publishing their banking details on hate sites.

And the thing is, there is no persecution. Social Justice Warriors don�t victimise anyone. That�s kind of central to the idea of social justice. Yes, developers and journalists like Zoe Quinn and Anita Sarkeesian speak loudly about feminism and equality, but it�s not to attack self-involved lunatics like Jordan Owen and Davis Aurini. It�s because they actually stand for something - for people to behave like decent human beings and treat each other with respect - as opposed to rallying against viewpoints that aren�t compatible with Middle Ages-era opinions about gender and equality. And sure, technically misogynists have a right to say whatever they want, but they don�t deserve to be listened to - especially not when their world view is couched in hate speech, online predation and emotional violence. The world does not owe them a single second of airtime.

Why are these people so terrible? Is it games that are doing it?

The inevitable #NotAllGamers hashtag has sprung up on Twitter in the past few days, and I get where that comes from. I play video games too, and I�m not a total dick! Hooray for me. But I also think the hashtag misses the point in the same self-serving way that #NotAllMen did. This is a problem endemic to gaming, and everyone is part of that problem. There is a culture of harassment, abuse, and bigotry in the rotten core of multiplayer gaming; it has been allowed or even encouraged to fester by developers; and it has created some of the most toxic individuals on the Internet.

As stated earlier, abuse has been around in games far longer than just this week. Seas of bile and hatred are poured onto developers by fans, or onto journalists by fans, or onto other fans by fans, every single day. BioWare writers have been targeted by death threats for daring to end a game their way. The comments section of virtually every mainstream gaming site is invariably filled with vitriol. What is it about gamers that fills them with such fury? Why can gamers only seem to interact with the world in a hateful manner? For an industry ostensibly built on fun, it�s a bizarre way to go about existing.

I have a friend who plays a lot of Call of Duty. He�s a brilliant comedian whose name you�ll probably know in the future, though I won�t mention it here. One of his favourite aspects of the game is verbally abusing other players - he LOVES it. It�s another game within a game. But it doesn�t matter if you�re the funniest or cleverest abusive dick on a server - you�re still being an abusive dick, and you�re still perpetuating a problem that has visibly grown way past that comparatively innocent context and into actual terrorism.

There�s no reputable research that states violent video games create violent video gamers, but I�d be curious to see whether they create abusive ones. At this point, abuse and harassment are as ingrained into gamer culture as headshots and killstreaks - but the difference between the two is that while the violence is fake, the abuse is real. That is a real person on the other end of the in-game chat line. It even extends outside of matches, with one player proving such a sore loser that he called a SWAT team on the kid who beat him.

Is there some sense that the consequence-free world of gaming is bleeding over into the real world? When Lizard Squad take down Sony�s servers and tweet �gg [good game] Sony,� you get the sense that to these people, it�s all a game. There�s a fundamental lack of empathy or understanding for other human beings at play here. These people live in a hosed-up alternate universe where everything is done for the lulz, or to win points in some kind of psychopathic game of one-upmanship. What we�re seeing is the gamification of a social struggle. It�s not about making salient points for these people (not that they had any to begin with) - it�s about winning. It�s the result of decades of seeing everything as a win/lose scenario, only now the no-holds-barred competition of Street Fighter is being manifested in the real world. These people will do anything they can to win, regardless of whether it�s morally or even legally acceptable. And they get away with it!

Before the internet, this didn�t happen - but places like 4chan give these people an echo chamber in which to shout at each other and firm up their sick worldviews, free from the influence of outside opinion. It�s logical and inevitable that the flames will snarl out from inside the fireplace. And for what? What is the goal of these people? I don�t even really want to know. It feels like they�ll just keep going, going, going, until there�s no more good people in the world and all that�s left is a bunch of antisocial rear end in a top hat bros high-fiving each other with memes.

You also get the creeping suspicion that even winning won�t be enough. When will they have they won? What are their demands? As far as can be seen, there are none - the campaign exists solely to constantly harrass and abuse people until they disappear. That�s the endgame - the destruction of individuals whose only crime is making comments about sexism - or worse, being sexually active. From the smirking tone adopted by Lizard Squad and more, it is hard to avoid paraphrasing what must also be a favourite movie amongst the attackers: some men just want to watch women burn.

It�s odd that a medium unique in its ability to put its players in the shoes of others has created people so closed-minded.

Though women are not the only targets of abuse and harassment in the gaming community and industry, they certainly bear a sad, disproportionate bulk of it. What makes gamers so uncomfortable when women start making or talking about games? I think it comes down, ultimately, to a fear of change. A lot of these people take to games as a way to escape from the lives in which they see themselves as downtrodden or rejected by women - escaping and moaning at other escapees rather than confronting the root cause of the rejection. When women pierce their little men�s-rights bubble of gamerhood and question the long-standing sexist elements of gaming they hold so dear, they see it as an act of vandalism, taking away something that belongs to them. That�s when they become a pack of wolves and set upon the �evil feminists�.

The ultimate, hilarious irony to these douchebags� worldview is that they claim to want gaming to be taken seriously. In their blinkered eyes, women are ruining gaming, because in their blinkered eyes, change that benefits anyone other than them is inherently bad. But feminist criticism can only be a boon to the games industry. It�s something shared by literally every other art form in existence, and game developers and journalists examining the very real issues in their industry can only improve gaming�s image. The irony of whinging that people like Quinn and Sarkeesian - whose tireless development, community-building and critical analysis help the industry immeasurably - give the games industry a bad name, while apparently believing that bullying and infighting is going to make the industry look like Amnesty International, is just too loving hilarious.

The real reason for gaming�s poor image is the aggressive, hateful people complaining about Social Justice Warriors in the first place. It is the Ayn Rand-loving pustules who spend their days ranting on message boards or Youtube about feminist conspiracies. It is ONLY THEM. Gaming will never be "taken seriously" when its self-styled bannermen are such vile cretins. When the media coverage - as it does, and it should - focuses on the behaviour of an amorphous minority group bent on online abuse, that is the image of gamers projected to the world. Because of these people, all gamers are painted with the same brush as cowardly, sociopathic losers.

So what can we do?

Thankfully, people like Quinn and Sarkeesian have proven stronger of character than the petty, cowardly people who would destroy them. They�re carrying on making games, encouraging further game development, and applying a critical eye to the world of gaming, and that�s a pretty fine example of how to go about ameliorating this problem.

The only way the ecosystem can improve is through the involvement of more women, more LGBT people, more of anyone who doesn�t conform to the white gamer-bro stereotype. That is exactly what the Twitter terrorists seek to prevent, and awesomely, is exactly what�s happening. Female gamers are rapidly on the rise - 48% of gamers are female, and adult females now double the number of the once-central under-18 boy demographic - and the collected assholes of the world can�t do anything about it. Women play games. If you can�t deal with that, maybe there�s something fundamental to your worldview you need to examine.

It is the responsibility of every gamer to behave better. Many of us do behave nicely, but because negativity sticks in the mind so painfully, it will take a massive sea change in attitude to make the gaming environment better. So next time you�re playing a game, pay attention to the behaviour of yourself and those playing with you. Make a joking comment in an online shooter about the other team getting �raped�? You�re part of the problem. See someone getting abused in a game or on Twitter, and do nothing about it? You�re part of the problem. We have to show that the silent majority belongs to the side of good.

More and more people are getting fed up with trolls and terrorists and are doing something, even if it�s just reporting tweets or writing lengthy blog posts. Even I have tasted Twitter bullying for supporting Zoe Quinn (because I�m obviously trying to get laid! Lulz!), and I�m sure I�ll get a full meal of it now, but gently caress those guys. The more people who sit back and let injustice happen, the more injustice will happen, and I�m sick of injustice.

So let�s be thankful for the heroes who are making gaming culture a better place, and let�s try to be better human beings. We need it. Our hobby, passion and livelihood need it. Hell, the world needs it. Hopefully we can all look back one day with cringing bemusement at what total dicks these people were. But for now, we have to keep fighting the good fight.

Because these cancerous fucks don�t get to claim the word �gamer�.

hosed up if true

# ? Aug 27, 2014 20:02

turnways: Jun 22, 2004

FAROOQ posted:

the flaw in the reasoning is that false rapes are very rarely reported to the police, but it's doesn't need go that far to ruin a life.

yah i think it's something like only 1-2% of all rapes reported to police are false, but if there's ever a group that's taken "never talk to the police" to heart...

edit: you know what, a lot of rapes go unreported because of bullying/lovely behavior by the police and i don't want to come across like it's a terrible thing not to talk to them. my own sister endured a world of poo poo for trying to report something, so realtalk it's understandable not going to the police with poo poo. but seriously, if you spend the majority of your time being preyed upon and generate no legal retaliation, not one bit, the entire time, that's p. hosed up and screwing people out of their legal right to defend themselves in court

turnways fucked around with this message at 20:07 on Aug 27, 2014

# ? Aug 27, 2014 20:02

Danger Mahoney: Mar 19, 2007; by FactsAreUseless

I'm jealous as hell about this Zoe girl. How come she gets to be famous at video games even tho she don't make them. poo poo even her famous one was made by two dudes after they carried their printers two miles to her house.

There are a ton of things I either don't do or am poo poo at. Where is my trade convention panel and paychecks for doing nothing.

# ? Aug 27, 2014 20:03

LongDarkNight: Oct 25, 2010; It's like watching the collapse of Western civilization in fast forward.; Oven Wrangler

gently caress the ROW posted:

GBS is all about freedom, like the rebellion in Star Wars (the original trilogy)

the Games subforum though... well, they're standing with Zoe Quinn

edit: ive been informed its ableism to imply that people who post in games are physically capable of standing

It's just that the floor buckles under them.

# ? Aug 27, 2014 20:04

Pleasant Friend: Dec 30, 2008

God, why has there been 400+ posts since the morning, has anything important happened?

# ? Aug 27, 2014 20:04

Kernel Monsoon: Jul 18, 2006

Denim Dude posted:

People were talking about the cards against humanity dude earlier and there is a new gawker article today.

http://valleywag.gawker.com/cards-against-humanitys-accused-rapist-banned-from-tech-1627416634/+laceydonohue

i mean, obviously if he raped someone he deserves everything bad that happens to him but his accuser made a blog post and then disappeared forever. he will never be a convicted rapist, he will never be an acquitted rapist. for the rest of his life he will just be the accused rapist.

not sure how i feel about gawkers coverage considering kotaku thinks unsubstantiated personal poo poo shouldn't be shared

Yeah this might be the grossest thing in the entire thread, really. Gawker really hates this guy apparently? Two weeks ago they wrote a similar article moaning that he wasn't a social pariah:

http://gawker.com/remember-when-the-cards-against-humanity-guy-was-accuse-1621559973

# ? Aug 27, 2014 20:05

Lobster Harmonica: Jul 15, 2005

Pleasant Friend posted:

God, why has there been 400+ posts since the morning, has anything important happened?

Phil Fish ate my balls

# ? Aug 27, 2014 20:05

XK: Jul 9, 2001; Star Citizen is everywhere. It is all around us. Even now, in this very room. You can see it's fidelity when you look out your window or when you watch youtube

Shadoer posted:

Cool!

Uhh... I think an ISIS takeover is still an extreme analogy, but let's see where you go with this.

No problem.

[etc...]

http://badassdigest.com/2014/08/26/video-games-misogyny-and-terrorism-a-guide-to-assholes/

# ? Aug 27, 2014 20:06

Forums Barber: Jan 5, 2011

that TFYC video includes more effort than Zoe's sum total of creative work so far, and I'm being generous and including the Vines of her firedancing and the YouTubes where she self-harms oops I mean installs cybernetic modifications.

I'm probably just jealous, though, whereas mortals have to touch the screen of their phone to start Twitter, she can wave her hand around near it for about ten seconds until it finally works.

# ? Aug 27, 2014 20:06

Pleasant Friend: Dec 30, 2008

Lobster Harmonica posted:

Phil Fish ate my balls

That Phil Fish, he's kind of a jerk.

# ? Aug 27, 2014 20:09

But Rocks Hurt Head: Jun 30, 2003; by Hand Knit; Pillbug

Shadoer posted:

Cool!

Uhh... I think an ISIS takeover is still an extreme analogy, but let's see where you go with this.

No problem.

But the counter argument is that everyone who goes onto the internet get's harassed to some extent. Just by playing Starcraft 2 I can guarantee that in 1 of my 10 random games I play, the guy is going to talk about how much I suck and that I'm mentally retarded. Granted women likely do get it worse, but there's been numerous studies that show that once people are anonymous on the internet they can become horrific people and troll for the sake of trolling regardless of gender or race.

Yeah it's pretty clear that Phil either hacked himself or had to be breathtakingly stupid to let this happen. Like you can look back on this thread and find tons of evidence that indicate that it had to be Phil or someone close to his company. Also I note that you haven't noted the example of the Fine Young Capitalists Indiegogo campaign for charity being hacked.

However let's just review the things about Phil quickly

1. The Hacker stole all of the SIN Numbers, bank account info, and everything needed to steal their identities. Then the hacker put it in a zip file and put it out on the internet so the information would become useless as now any transaction made can be reversed. This was done rather than collecting a hard earned $100,000.

2. Fish was never named in the scandal until the alleged hacking occurred. Before that he was just Zoe's rear end in a top hat friend on twitter.

3. Collecting all of that information and organizing it actually takes considerable time and effort and patience. Most hackers would have went with the first few tidbits they had, or search email for actually socially damaging info.

4. The compression used for the file isn't one normally used in households. It's instead a different one that sees use in the software industry.

5. The file also was not put on various torrent sites and other places, instead it was left on an webserver Fish could easily take it down from.

6. Loading a file in the gigabytes of size while hacking a webserver is next to impossible.

7. For some reason Fish's Twitter account wasn't hacked.

8. The server required double authentication from a computer it wasn't used to. This immediately takes it to a more advanced level of hacking and effort.

9. Fish was likely going to sell everything anyways. Fez 2 was dead and there were no big games coming down the pipe from Fish's company. This incident allows him to up his profile for a sale that was probably coming anyways while also allowing him to leave on a morale high note as opposed to a failure note.

You realize few people, if anyone are claiming there's a review of Depression Quest. The main thing is the suspicious as hell Game Jam article he wrote that did feature Quinn that he totally did write and incidentally helped promote Quinn's "Rebel Game Jam" that accepts donations to her paypal account right? An incident that lost one guy his job?

Also none of these people had any problems covering other sex scandals that had far less "evidence" behind them.

Well the entire internet is a scary and wonderful place. And while 4chan is a part of that, it's not the only part of it.

Yeah just censor people and eliminate freedom of speech whenever they feel like it. Few people have a problem with feminism and few would argue that there isn't a problem in the world with how society treats women. However the Social Justice Warriors are basically the Magneto's of the movement.

Again this is part of the thing that comes with anonymity here...

Cause there was barely an industry?

You realize 4chan raised like $20,000 for that women's chairty right?

Oh that's ironic.

Finally some sense.

Maybe... honestly I think you are right, but there's never been a study done on it yet.

Also honestly, most gamers find a woman interested in video games a massive turn on. Not sure uncomfortable is a good way of describing it.

You know most gamers don't really have a problem with it at all... however being called cowardly sociopathic losers is pretty offensive.

Agree that change takes time and comes with better education? Feminisim shouldn't be a shield to deflect from obvious corruption? All speech should be free speech?

Well yeah more women play games, I'd like to see where that 48% number comes from though.

Great so you will help make all of these corrupt journalists be held accountable?!

Oh we just all have to be nicer to each other, sing kumbai-ah and poo poo... yeah that's never been a solution

lol congrats on making such a bad post

# ? Aug 27, 2014 20:11

Lazyfire: Feb 4, 2006; God saves. Satan Invests

Forums Barber posted:

I'm probably just jealous, though, whereas mortals have to touch the screen of their phone to start Twitter, she can wave her hand around near it for about ten seconds until it finally works.

Zoe Quinn uses an Xbox One for a phone?

# ? Aug 27, 2014 20:11

Triple A: Jul 14, 2010; Your sword, sahib.

identity politics is the worst

# ? Aug 27, 2014 20:12

Azerban: Oct 28, 2003

E1M1 posted:

my posting follows the same arc as gone home, it's very boring and then you realize i'm gay, please steam greenlight me

# ? Aug 27, 2014 20:12

big duck equals goose: Nov 7, 2006; by XyloJW

Danger Mahoney posted:

I'm jealous as hell about this Zoe girl. How come she gets to be famous at video games even tho she don't make them. poo poo even her famous one was made by two dudes after they carried their printers two miles to her house.

There are a ton of things I either don't do or am poo poo at. Where is my trade convention panel and paychecks for doing nothing.

well you never blew my cock/balls for one and

# ? Aug 27, 2014 20:13

fuck the ROW: Aug 29, 2008; by zen death robot

huff & puff on my balls and rear end

# ? Aug 27, 2014 20:13

Biggie Shorty: Oct 8, 2008

Pleasant Friend posted:

God, why has there been 400+ posts since the morning, has anything important happened?

This is the gbs games thread for people that are bored with video games but still can't stop talking about them. Welcome aboard!

# ? Aug 27, 2014 20:13

Hayburner: Jan 29, 2005; hi

lick my callused gamer taint

# ? Aug 27, 2014 20:14

Programmer Humor: Nov 27, 2008; Lipstick Apathy

are there any anita-approved games?

# ? Aug 27, 2014 20:14

Hayburner: Jan 29, 2005; hi

"gaming community" ahahha

# ? Aug 27, 2014 20:15

But Rocks Hurt Head: Jun 30, 2003; by Hand Knit; Pillbug

Hayburner posted:

lick my callused gamer taint

taint reaped once too many, huh?

# ? Aug 27, 2014 20:15

Man Whore: Jan 6, 2012; ASK ME ABOUT SPHERICAL CATS
=3

E1M1 posted:

my posting follows the same arc as gone home, it's very boring and then you realize i'm gay, please steam greenlight me

# ? Aug 27, 2014 20:15

big duck equals goose: Nov 7, 2006; by XyloJW

Programmer Humor posted:

are there any anita-approved games?

Depression Quest, lol

# ? Aug 27, 2014 20:16

Danger Mahoney: Mar 19, 2007; by FactsAreUseless

big duck equals goose posted:

well you never blew my cock/balls for one and

what is the second thing after the and im taking notes

# ? Aug 27, 2014 20:16

turnways: Jun 22, 2004

E1M1 posted:

my posting follows the same arc as gone home, it's very boring and then you realize i'm gay, please steam greenlight me

around here a fella's got to give a little first, big boy :wink:

# ? Aug 27, 2014 20:16

Spanish Manlove: Aug 31, 2008; HAILGAYSATAN

Programmer Humor posted:

are there any anita-approved games?

i'm curious about this too

# ? Aug 27, 2014 20:17

Spanish Manlove: Aug 31, 2008; HAILGAYSATAN

E1M1 posted:

my posting follows the same arc as gone home, it's very boring and then you realize i'm gay, please steam greenlight me

lol

# ? Aug 27, 2014 20:17

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# ? May 16, 2024 14:55

Pleasant Friend: Dec 30, 2008

Biggie Shorty posted:

This is the gbs games thread for people that are bored with video games but still can't stop talking about them. Welcome aboard!

You know that might be true, I rented TMNT Out of the Shadows from Blockbuster the other week as preparation to seeing the Bay movie and I haven't even touched it.

# ? Aug 27, 2014 20:18

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