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ConfusedUs posted:Brust is one of my favorites. Vlad owns, but I think my favorite character in the entire series is Kragar. He's so snarky and...invisible. I'm trying to read some of Brust's non-Taltos stuff. Cowboy Feng's Space Bar and Grille was so much better than I thought it would be, and Agyar was such a disappointment. Who woulda thought the vampire book that never used the words "vampire" "blood" or "undead" would be a boring flop, but the terribly titled book about a bar full of space-hopping misfits would have so much heart? Next payday, I'm probably going to pick up The Incrementalists. He's made a couple of posts online about how it's absolutely his favorite book he's written, and how rewarding the experience was. I really wanna read him writing about a secret society of shadowy people who just wanna make the world a little better 
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ConfusedUs posted:Brust is one of my favorites. Vlad owns, but I think my favorite character in the entire series is Kragar. He's so snarky and...invisible. Mid - October I think. I'm planning on making a thread closer to its release. The Incrementalists was really good. I don't know about his best work ever (my pick is 500 Years) but as far as a first book in a series goes it has a ton of potential for later stories.
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Whalley posted:I'm never going to get tired of the Kragar gimmick of "Get Kragar in here." "I'm right here, boss." "Oh. Good." To Reign in Hell is my favorite non-Dragaera novel that he's written. I haven't read The Incrementalists though.
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Echo Cian posted:Among Thieves by Douglas Hulick This keeps getting suggested when someone's looking for a Locke Lamora fix. Thematically, they're kind of similar, but Lynch writes with a level of soul and joy that Hulick just doesn't match. Plus, the constant fencing-porn grated on me.
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The Ninth Layer posted:I don't know about his best work ever (my pick is 500 Years) but as far as a first book in a series goes it has a ton of potential for later stories. I'd honestly feel comfortable with saying that his best ever is Jhereg. It's a drat near perfect book.
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I just finished 2 self published (I assume) books, translated from Russian by someone named D. Rus called "Alterworld" and "The Clan" in a series called "Play To Live" where the main character is a person who is dying of cancer who has taken advantage of a "bug" of Full Immersion Virtual Reality technology that causes some people to be permanently downloaded into the world of whatever Massively Multiplayer game they play too much. I ended up rolling my eyes a lot at both books - The translation took some getting used to as well as the author's habit of including tons of statblocks and quest text in the game whenever the main character called up what an item did or accepted a quest. Also, the theme was pretty much wish fulfillment World Of Warcraft/Everquest self insert fan fiction. He picks the hardest to manage race/class combo then immediately begins excelling to a convenient level etc. Anyway, I enjoyed them - Its better than a lot of the self-published stuff I've read since picking up Kindle Unlimited.
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The new shadows of the apt is out, Seal of the Worm. It just popped up on amazon for me.
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Phoon posted:The new shadows of the apt is out, Seal of the Worm. It just popped up on amazon for me. Neat, thanks for the heads-up.
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I'm looking for two different things. First, I'd like some recommendations for a series that you really like but has gone under the radar. Some examples I've liked in the past are the Collegia Magica series by Carol Berg, the Milkweed Triptych by Ian Tregillis, and the Johannes Cabal series by Jonathan Howard. I've had my eye on The Retrieval Artist series by Kristine Kathryn Rusch, but I want some other options. The other type of book I'm looking for is something that's a bit deeper/more cerebral and well-written than more action-y or pulpy sci-fi/fantasy. It doesn't have to be straight-up genre fiction, but I'd like it to at least have some sci-fi/fantasy elements. Some examples of things I've enjoyed in the past are The First Fifteen Lives of Harry August by Claire North, The Humans by Matt Haig, and The Dream of Perpetual Motion by Dexter Palmer. e: Phummus posted:I feel like I'm out of things to read. I sit in a lab twice a week with a needle in my arm and have a lot of reading time. I like escapism. You'd probably like the Peter Grant series by Ben Aaronovitch. They're about a rookie cop who's apprenticed to the "only" remaining magician in London, who works for Scotland Yard handling the supernatural side of police-work, like mediating the dispute between the two gods of the Thames River. There's currently four books in the series, with a fifth on its way in November. I read each one in a day or two, and they're objectively better than every other magical detective series on the market, except for maybe London Falling and The Severed Streets by Paul Cornell, which are broadly similar but much, much darker. If you like epics, you might also like The Book of The New Sun by Gene Wolfe, which is a bit slow at first but definitely a classic. The first two books are sold together as Shadow and Claw. The first time I started reading it I got bored before the first 30-40 pages, but I promise once you get past the beginning it's one of the best and most original sci-fi/fantasy books/series out there. regularizer fucked around with this message at 18:18 on Aug 28, 2014 |
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regularizer posted:The other type of book I'm looking for is something that's a bit deeper/more cerebral and well-written than more action-y or pulpy sci-fi/fantasy. It doesn't have to be straight-up genre fiction, but I'd like it to at least have some sci-fi/fantasy elements. Some examples of things I've enjoyed in the past are The First Fifteen Lives of Harry August by Claire North, The Humans by Matt Haig, and The Dream of Perpetual Motion by Dexter Palmer. There is a loosely-connected book in the same world, The Rise of Ransom City, but it is set chronologically after The Half-Made World. Although they each stand alone, read The Half-Made World first.
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ConfusedUs posted:To Reign in Hell is my favorite non-Dragaera novel that he's written. To Reign in Hell is one of the best first novels in any genre.
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Azathoth posted:Please check out The Half-Made World by Felix Gilman. It's a story set in a secondary world with heavy similarities to Old West America, and while it does have a good amount of action, there are allegorical undercurrents running throughout. However, it's not going to beat you over the head with it's message, and provoked quite a bit of thought from me after the fact. Read both, loved both, thought The Revolutions was slightly worse.
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regularizer posted:The other type of book I'm looking for is something that's a bit deeper/more cerebral and well-written than more action-y or pulpy sci-fi/fantasy. It doesn't have to be straight-up genre fiction, but I'd like it to at least have some sci-fi/fantasy elements. Some examples of things I've enjoyed in the past are The First Fifteen Lives of Harry August by Claire North, The Humans by Matt Haig, and The Dream of Perpetual Motion by Dexter Palmer. This is not very helpful but I loved Harry August and Dream of Perpetual Motion so I'll probably check out The Humans now.  A not entirely dissimilar book to Harry August is Life After Life by Kate Atkinson. I enjoyed the book but I definitely preferred Harry August, which I read afterwards. They deal with a similar premise but very differently. Okay, here are some (hopefully) thoughtful books that I would still consider sci-fi: Genesis by Bernard Beckett Replay by Ken Grimwood (heh, yet another book similar in premise to Harry August, I clearly like this topic) Solaris by Stanislaw Lem (probs not a great recommendation, who hasn't read this?) The Sad Tale of the Brothers Grossbart by Jesse Bullington (this would fall under fantasy) Never Let Me Go by Kazuo Ishiguro (does this count as sci-fi?) How To Live Safely In a Science Fictional Universe by Charles Yu
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regularizer posted:The other type of book I'm looking for is something that's a bit deeper/more cerebral and well-written than more action-y or pulpy sci-fi/fantasy. It doesn't have to be straight-up genre fiction, but I'd like it to at least have some sci-fi/fantasy elements. Some examples of things I've enjoyed in the past are The First Fifteen Lives of Harry August by Claire North, The Humans by Matt Haig, and The Dream of Perpetual Motion by Dexter Palmer.
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bonds0097 posted:This is not very helpful but I loved Harry August and Dream of Perpetual Motion so I'll probably check out The Humans now. I'll check these out, thanks! I tried The Sad Tale of the Brothers Grossbart before, but the entire Kindle sample was pretty much just them being incredibly violent, so I never bought it. If it changes/gets better after the first 15-20 minutes or so though I'll try it again. Cardiovorax posted:I recommended The Club Dumas a page or two ago and that fits what you want pretty well. It's a fairly complex murder mystery that goes into deep detail about the lives and motivations of bibliophiles (obsessive book collectors) and features a book hunter hired to find a medieval grimoire, which may or may not have been written by the devil himself and contains instructions to summon him. Also thanks! I love mystery novels too, so this should be good.
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regularizer posted:I'll check these out, thanks! I tried The Sad Tale of the Brothers Grossbart before, but the entire Kindle sample was pretty much just them being incredibly violent, so I never bought it. If it changes/gets better after the first 15-20 minutes or so though I'll try it again. It is in fact very violent and often gross, that's part of the point, but I definitely felt the book was deeper than it initially appeared. I'd read the Amazon reviews if you're interested, they're pretty spot on. It's definitely unlike anything else I've ever read.
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regularizer posted:I'm looking for two different things. First, I'd like some recommendations for a series that you really like but has gone under the radar. Some examples I've liked in the past are the Collegia Magica series by Carol Berg, the Milkweed Triptych by Ian Tregillis, and the Johannes Cabal series by Jonathan Howard. I've had my eye on The Retrieval Artist series by Kristine Kathryn Rusch, but I want some other options. Armageddon: The Musical and its two sequels by Robert Rankin. By the same author, the Brentford 'Trilogy' which now consists of 9 books. Very non-serious urban fantasy.
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Just finished Echopraxia. So the transmission from Siri's escape pod, is it truly a Chinese Room trap for his dad? Does this mean he got intercepted by the scramblers on the way out from Theseus? I don't really recall the events at the end of Blindsight that well. The stuff Sengupta said about the voice being "fake and androgynous" really unnerved me, even though it was fun to see that Siri Keeton actually comes across as creepier than actual aliens when he is simply trying to express his innermost thoughs. Also, at the end, when Valerie "warms up to" Brüks, it's because he is becoming more and more like the Portia intelligence and less like himself, isn't it? Which is also why she comes back to converse, to reassure herself that he is changing. But why sacrifice herself? Because it's the only true proof of Brüks' loss of his baseline human status? And I don't understand how you can compartmentalize away the Crucifix Glitch when it basically destroys your entire visual system from the inside out
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Echopraxia spoilers I think the implication of the transmission from the pod is that the entirety of Blindsight's manuscript is a found document that Siri's dad 'reads' in Echopraxia, and that it may be...entirely created by the Scramblers? Created by a Siri who's been compromised by the Scramblers? I guess there's a lot of room for creepy theories, I haven't pinned down a favorite yet.
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Whalley posted:I love that everyone is overpowered though. Like, no poo poo Vlad's a legend; he's got a bigger body count than dudes who have lived hundreds of years. Of course Morrolan is a crazy badass; how else would he have a flying castle of diplomatic immunity? Duh Sethra's basically a god; that's how these books work. No poo poo the random second-tier business owner down the street's a badass, he has access to an instant psychic network and can teleport at the drop of a hat. What, can't you? To Reign In Hell was pretty great as well, although it reminded me a bit of James Morrow's Towing Jehovah (probably because I read them pretty much back to back, fresh out of Catholic school.) Neurosis posted:I'm halfway through Prince of Thorns. This isn't as bad as I expected. The IN THE YEAR 40 000 THERE IS ONLY WAR grim darkness is a little over the top, but the story moves along at a quick pace, obeying most of being technically good at writing. It's short. The protagonist ends up being less "prolific murderer/rapist" and more "kid who had some serious scars which are eventually dealt with and starts to grow up to be a Normal-ish Human Being." There's even an explanation what's going on with the goon-least-favorite line, "I don't like to get angry - it makes me angry" in the second novel, iirc. Lots of splinters poisoning him and causing rage blackouts. I enjoyed the series in that it's got a bit of the "who's gonna die next!?" roulette wheel spinning, simply because the protagonist is loving crazy most of the time. Echo Cian posted:The Coldfire trilogy by C. S. Friedman coyo7e fucked around with this message at 03:03 on Aug 29, 2014 |
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regularizer posted:I'm looking for two different things. First, I'd like some recommendations for a series that you really like but has gone under the radar. Some examples I've liked in the past are the Collegia Magica series by Carol Berg, the Milkweed Triptych by Ian Tregillis, and the Johannes Cabal series by Jonathan Howard. I've had my eye on The Retrieval Artist series by Kristine Kathryn Rusch, but I want some other options. My go-to underrated author is Barbara Hambly, specifically for her Darwath Trilogy: Time of the Dark, Walls of Air, and Armies of Daylight. Although she's written two other books set in the same world, I can't recommend them with the same enthusiasm. She also wrote Silent Tower, Silicon Mage, and Dog Wizard, a trilogy mingling computers and magic circa the 1980s. Her Starhawk and Sun Wolf books (Ladies of Mandrigyn, Witches of Wenshar, and Dark Hand of Magic) are good too. Some of these might be difficult to find outside a used bookstore. One thing I like very much about Hambly is that when she develops romances between her characters, they're matches of equals, and the characters don't waste much time thinking about sex while they're fighting for the world. Since you liked Collegia Magica, you might enjoy Berg's Rai-kirah books, starting with Transformation. I've only read the first, but it's a gem. I wouldn't say C.J. Cherryh has ever gone under the radar, but her Morgaine Cycle (Gate of Ivrel, Well of Shiuan, Fires of Azeroth, and Exile's Gate) isn't what she's best known for, and yet it's excellent fantasy. I'm also partial to her Fortress in the Eye of Time. The rest of the series I could take or leave; the same holds for Angel with a Sword and its shared-world sequels. Roger Zelazny isn't underrated either, but his Chronicles of Amber--the first half, anyway--doesn't get that much play in here that I've noticed. Lois McMaster Bujold's Curse of Chalion is a gorgeous book, as is its first sequel, Paladin of Souls. Also enjoyable: Tad Williams' Memory, Sorrow, and Thorn, if you aren't averse to quest fantasy that tips its hat deeply to Tolkien without ripping him off at every point. (Emphasis perhaps on every.) If you usually avoid vampires, I can't blame you, but there's a lot to be said for Robin McKinley's Sunshine. One thing I wouldn't say for it is that it has a satisfying ending. Still, it kept me hooked all the way through. Melanie Rawn, Kate Elliott, and Jennifer Roberson (whose Chronicles of the Cheysuli may deserve some praise, but I haven't read them in a while and I recall them as very, very '80s; ditto Rawn's Dragon Prince and Dragon Star trilogies, but her Ruins of Ambrai should still hold up) wrote a book together, Golden Key, which has some of the most intriguing magic I can recall. Julian May's Saga of the Pliocene Exile is so cracktastic that if you didn't love it you'd probably hate it, but if you did love it, you'd have a lot of fun.
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regularizer posted:I'm looking for two different things. First, I'd like some recommendations for a series that you really like but has gone under the radar. Since you like Collegia Magica, have you read Rai-kireh and the Lighthouse Duet, too? The only series of Berg's I don't like is The Bridge of D'Arnath. Though it's not a particular series, I recently tore through everything I could find by Patricia McKillip and loved them despite her frequent problems tying an ending together. She uses a lot of themes that I like. She's won awards, but I hadn't heard of her until someone in IRC mentioned Riddle-Master of Hed. No idea if you would like her too, but we both like Collegia Magica and Johannes Cabal and her writing doesn't focus on constant action, so hey. (I'm putting the other things you mentioned on my list for that same reason.) As for your second point (and kind of combining with the first), have you read Catherynne Valente? The Orphan's Tales duology and Deathless are fantastic and very different from typical fantasy fare; Deathless in particular combines Russian history with folklore. I haven't yet gotten to her other books. Cardiovorax posted:Not a personal recommendation of mine. I don't think Friedman writes very well and she's just a little bit too in love with her dark, broody and oh-so-tragic vampire protagonist. I made a note to pick up Coldfire specifically because the things some people complained about sounded like what I'd find interesting, and I was right, so people should try it anyway and decide for themselves.  Technically the writing wasn't great (sentence fragments ahoy!) but the story and characters kept me reading, and I enjoyed the books despite the flaws. anathenema posted:This keeps getting suggested when someone's looking for a Locke Lamora fix. Thematically, they're kind of similar, but Lynch writes with a level of soul and joy that Hulick just doesn't match. Plus, the constant fencing-porn grated on me. I haven't read Locke Lamora. I just know Among Thieves was a gritty-but-not-too-gritty book with good characters, and I happened to like the fencing segments. Though I tend to respect any writer who can write good, clear action sequences with characters I give a poo poo about.
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I've been tempted to read the Vlad series, but is it ok to read without knowing who the gently caress all those other people are? Or is it one of those "You will be utterly lose unless you read every one of this dude's books set in his universe" kinda things?
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:I've been tempted to read the Vlad series, but is it ok to read without knowing who the gently caress all those other people are? Or is it one of those "You will be utterly lose unless you read every one of this dude's books set in his universe" kinda things? Vlad started that universe and it was at least 5 books in before Brust did the take on Dumas, so read in publication order and you're fine.
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:I've been tempted to read the Vlad series, but is it ok to read without knowing who the gently caress all those other people are? Or is it one of those "You will be utterly lose unless you read every one of this dude's books set in his universe" kinda things?
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General Battuta posted:Echopraxia spoilers I think the implication of the transmission from the pod is that the entirety of Blindsight's manuscript is a found document that Siri's dad 'reads' in Echopraxia, and that it may be...entirely created by the Scramblers? Created by a Siri who's been compromised by the Scramblers? I guess there's a lot of room for creepy theories, I haven't pinned down a favorite yet. I really, really hope that's not the case. Some characters speculate about it, but I don't think their speculations necessarily prove anything. Siri seeming like an autistic weirdo who people read as being an alien would just be funny. Mostly, though, I liked Siri as the narrator in Blindsight and hope to see some more of him.
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Neurosis posted:I really, really hope that's not the case. Some characters speculate about it, but I don't think their speculations necessarily prove anything. Siri seeming like an autistic weirdo who people read as being an alien would just be funny. Mostly, though, I liked Siri as the narrator in Blindsight and hope to see some more of him. That's exactly what I think/hope. The novel was anyway depressing enough with the fate of Bruks, the pointlessness of his last sacrifice and humanity basically going down the drain. Sengupta is just guessing and is not really the most reliable person on the crew. Her brain is so hosed up/altered that she cannot identify Bruks as the guy who "killed" her wife when he has his picture and is standing just in front of him. Anyway she believes it's Sarasti who's sending the messages, not the aliens. I don't even see the point of that, and it seems more like a "gently caress you reader" twist since there are no real hints in Blindsight that would lead you to this conclusion. I think Sengupta just cannot imagine how Siri actually thinks. Of course he sounds like an alien, I don't see how a normal human being could really relate to his way of thinking. I have no idea if Watts wants to write a third book, but if he does I would really want it to be just about Jim Moore finally finding his son. Siri was a much better character than Bruks was, and the story of Theseus was more compelling. Anomandaris fucked around with this message at 13:41 on Aug 29, 2014 |
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For those who finished Echopraxia, Watts actually wrote a short story in a terrible vampire anthology called Blood Type that involves Valerie and her pals escaping.
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Kaishai posted:My go-to underrated author is Barbara Hambly, specifically for her Darwath Trilogy: Time of the Dark, Walls of Air, and Armies of Daylight. Although she's written two other books set in the same world, I can't recommend them with the same enthusiasm. She also wrote Silent Tower, Silicon Mage, and Dog Wizard, a trilogy mingling computers and magic circa the 1980s. Her Starhawk and Sun Wolf books (Ladies of Mandrigyn, Witches of Wenshar, and Dark Hand of Magic) are good too. Some of these might be difficult to find outside a used bookstore. One thing I like very much about Hambly is that when she develops romances between her characters, they're matches of equals, and the characters don't waste much time thinking about sex while they're fighting for the world. I also enjoyed Hambly's vampire novels, starting with Those Who Hunt The Night and Traveling With The Dead. There are now more, the series was picked up again and includes Blood Maidens, Magistrates of Hell, and The Kindred of Darkness. I find her vampires frightening, not romanticized in the least, and I love the Edwardian setting.
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Echo Cian posted:I made a note to pick up Coldfire specifically because the things some people complained about sounded like what I'd find interesting, and I was right, so people should try it anyway and decide for themselves. Zola posted:I also enjoyed Hambly's vampire novels, starting with Those Who Hunt The Night and Traveling With The Dead. There are now more, the series was picked up again and includes Blood Maidens, Magistrates of Hell, and The Kindred of Darkness. I find her vampires frightening, not romanticized in the least, and I love the Edwardian setting. Speaking of which, has anybody here read Thirteen Bullets by David Wellington or any of the sequels? They're really good about this. His vampires are pale, pointy-eared hairless monsters with a mouth full of shark teeth who are fast enough to outrun cars and strong enough to punch through steel plates. Psychologically they're like the worst parts of a thrill killer and the most degenerate junkie imaginable combined. Blood not only feels completely awesome to them, it makes them better, stronger and tougher the more they drink, until getting it and then getting more of it becomes the only thing they can think about. They only get hungrier as they age, until they eventually need to kill dozens of people a night to stay mobile. Anybody they kill becomes their completely self-aware zombie slave until they rot away after a week or so. The first thing any zombie does when it rises is to claw off its own face because it's such an unbearable and unnatural state to be in. The best thing is, there is no such thing as a tragic or unwilling vampire. You can't get turned into one against your will. It does involve another vampire mindfucking with you, but then you need to actively choose death over life by committing suicide. Knowing exactly what you are getting into and what it'll cost is the basic requirement for being able to turn. The first book is available online on the author's website, along with a couple of other books of his. It's absolutely worth a read if you like vampire horror at all.
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Regarding Asimovs Foundation series, any reason to read the prequels first? Ie in the chronological order.
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Daktari posted:Regarding Asimovs Foundation series, any reason to read the prequels first? Ie in the chronological order. I think the best way to read Asimov's stuff is in order written / published order, not chronological order. When in doubt I usually default to that for most authors.
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The Foundation has a very strong decline in quality, so I strongly, strongly recommend the order of publication.
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Daktari posted:Regarding Asimovs Foundation series, any reason to read the prequels first? Ie in the chronological order. Only read the original three (Foundation, Foundation and Empire, Second Foundation); the prequels aren't as good as the original novels.
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Some may disagree on particular series... but I don't think reading Chronological (as opposed to Published) order is ever preferable. I can't think of a single instance where a series is better read in Chronological order over published order.
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Neurosis posted:The Foundation has a very strong decline in quality, so I strongly, strongly recommend the order of publication. Also I think it is not desirable to be familiar with Seldon before reading the original books. The "old guru" role is not really compatible with knowing about his robot girlfriend and his adventures around the Trantor underworld.
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syphon posted:Some may disagree on particular series... but I don't think reading Chronological (as opposed to Published) order is ever preferable. I can't think of a single instance where a series is better read in Chronological order over published order.
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