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God Over Djinn posted:Hope this isn't too forward but if you ever want to talk writing (or whatever) over beers, CC regulars myself, Sitting Here, and Nethilia are all in your area & not axe murderers That actually sounds pretty cool! Feel free to PM me.
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God Over Djinn posted:Hope this isn't too forward but if you ever want to talk writing (or whatever) over beers, CC regulars myself, Sitting Here, and Nethilia are all in your area & not axe murderers
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Aug 27, 2014 00:06
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the seattle public library has a WRITER'S ROOM, you guys should go in there
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God Over Djinn posted:Hope this isn't too forward but if you ever want to talk writing (or whatever) over beers, CC regulars myself, Sitting Here, and Nethilia are all in your area & not axe murderers Seconding this. Always down to talk shop, or just bitch.
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If I was an axe murderer and wanted victims to come to me I would also advertise myself as 'not an axe murderer'. Don't think I'd mention it if I wasn't.
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Lethemonster posted:If I was an axe murderer and wanted victims to come to me I would also advertise myself as 'not an axe murderer'. poo poo, is that what I've been doing wrong?
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Edward_Tohr posted:poo poo, is that what I've been doing wrong? It's called foreshadowing, dude.
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Anyone live in Austin? a/s/l
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i met a writer irl once and he wrote literary fic, then when I told him I mostly do spec fic it was very awkward and I hope I never meet a writer irl again
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systran posted:i met a writer irl once and he wrote literary fic, then when I told him I mostly do spec fic it was very awkward and I hope I never meet a writer irl again ;_____;
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Aug 27, 2014 01:37
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it's a well known fact that I'm Cormac McCarthy irl
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systran posted:i met a writer irl once and he wrote literary fic, then when I told him I mostly do spec fic it was very awkward and I hope I never meet a writer irl again Thought you said 'spic fic' and was unsurprised it was awkward.
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Sitting Here posted:;_____; I wouldn't mind meeting you again though, friend
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I find it weird when I meet people that don't write.
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systran posted:I wouldn't mind meeting you again though, friend same
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hey circlejerkers, tell me how to get out of a stuck middle
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blue squares posted:hey circlejerkers, tell me how to get out of a stuck middle Are you implying that you're in the middle of a circle jerk? but yeah I think (and I'm only guessing here because I am currently languishing in the soggy middle of a book) the solution is to do something completely different than what you were doing. Throw yourself or your characters a juicy curveball you're excited to go back and write about Or chant and throw salt over your shoulder I will edit this post once I've escaped The Middle, check back!!!!
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God Over Djinn posted:Hope this isn't too forward but if you ever want to talk writing (or whatever) over beers, CC regulars myself, Sitting Here, and Nethilia are all in your area & not axe murderers hey... hey what area? I want to do this. I went to a goonmeet last week and although it was awkward, I had a lot of fun. (Where the gently caress were you Lou? I was looking.) also uhh, I don't know if we're allowed to post this to the thread so I'm going to ask first: I have a book signing in the cali bay area in a week and a half, am I allowed to post the details here and invite the northern california goons?
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Does anyone feel bad because they only want to write rollicking good stories, and not so much expound on the human condition or anything deep like that? Ive heard it said that you shouldn't write if you don't have anything to say. Well, to be honest I don't have any inciteful or truly original to say. I just think of things that I think would make an entertaining story, and run with it. I try to bring my own experiences and humanity to them, but at the end of the day I'm just trying to tell a good story. Is this okay? 
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crabrock posted:what makes a story good?
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Blue Star posted:Does anyone feel bad because they only want to write rollicking good stories, and not so much expound on the human condition or anything deep like that? Ive heard it said that you shouldn't write if you don't have anything to say. Well, to be honest I don't have any inciteful or truly original to say. I just think of things that I think would make an entertaining story, and run with it. I try to bring my own experiences and humanity to them, but at the end of the day I'm just trying to tell a good story. Is this okay? Of course it's okay. Entertainment is a respectable purpose. People enjoy rollicking adventures; reading them brings happiness; what's not okay about that? You can say something in such a story too, if you want to and have the skill. Never be ashamed of wanting to give readers a good time.
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Kaishai posted:Of course it's okay. Entertainment is a respectable purpose. People enjoy rollicking adventures; reading them brings happiness; what's not okay about that? You can say something in such a story too, if you want to and have the skill. Never be ashamed of wanting to give readers a good time. This, very much this. The only cardinal sin in writing, that I know of, is don't be boring. Course your boring might be someone's interesting so that rule sucks too. Just write what you want and don't force stuff that isn't there.
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Blue Star posted:Ive heard it said that you shouldn't write if you don't have anything to say. Sounds like something a dickhead would say IMO. Write things you think will be fun to read if you want.
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No, it's true that you shouldn't write if you don't have anything to say. "Anything to say" can literally be "this is loving sweet, hell yeah," though.
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that's what i was getting at with my "what makes a story good?" it's usually some sort of commentary on human nature / dreams / desires / fears, etc. that's having something to say. If you really have nothing to say, you make an art house film that is just black and white stills of shoes or whatever.
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:No, it's true that you shouldn't write if you don't have anything to say.
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Zip posted:I went to a goonmeet last week and although it was awkward, I had a lot of fun. (Where the gently caress were you Lou? I was looking.) i had a vacation planned a couple months in advance already when i went to sf, sorry dude, monday was my only free day
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I figured out a great solution to getting out of the stuck middle! Hint: I'm starting over. I think my central conceit was not strong enough to sustain a novel and I wrote myself into a corner by Seat of Pantsing. However, I've already got a great new plot and character with loads more conflict, tension, etc. And it's the same theme and general idea, so there are at least 60-70pp that I can steal from my WIP. This time, I'm going to outline, re-outline, and re-outline, until I know where I'm going at all times.
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LOU BEGAS MUSTACHE posted:i had a vacation planned a couple months in advance already when i went to sf, sorry dude, monday was my only free day Bummer. I was actually asking around trying to find you man. Chance to meet another CC'er was exciting. 
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Zip posted:Bummer. I was actually asking around trying to find you man. Chance to meet another CC'er was exciting. no prob, you in the area? its not like i dont drop by sf every once in a while, i have lots of friends there. if you are and i plan a trip, ill shoot you a PM and we can discuss BOOKS and BOOK THINGS
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LOU BEGAS MUSTACHE posted:no prob, you in the area? its not like i dont drop by sf every once in a while, i have lots of friends there. if you are and i plan a trip, ill shoot you a PM and we can discuss BOOKS and BOOK THINGS If any of you are near Los Gatos next week, I could sure use the support.... http://stevenmix.ghost.io/book-signing-september-6th/ … Come out I'll sign your books, etc Book Signing: September 6th
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God Over Djinn posted:Hope this isn't too forward but if you ever want to talk writing (or whatever) over beers, CC regulars myself, Sitting Here, and Nethilia are all in your area & not axe murderers Way to spoil the plot twist. 
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Nethilia posted:Way to spoil the plot twist. The twist is they are actually giant axes who murder people by swinging small sharpened people about.
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Blue Star posted:Does anyone feel bad because they only want to write rollicking good stories, and not so much expound on the human condition or anything deep like that? Ive heard it said that you shouldn't write if you don't have anything to say. Well, to be honest I don't have any inciteful or truly original to say. I just think of things that I think would make an entertaining story, and run with it. I try to bring my own experiences and humanity to them, but at the end of the day I'm just trying to tell a good story. Is this okay? The bulk of my fiction writing training comes from the Elements of Fiction Writing series. I absolutely learned a great deal from those books and one of them touches on the question you're asking. I can't figure out what book it is and I don't have my notebook with me today, but one book states that a story should do at least one of these things: 1) surprise the reader 2) excite the reader 3) teach something about the human experience. Again, I'm not sure that's what they are verbatim. I, on the other hand, have a distinct drive for commenting on the human experience in some way. For me, stories such as that are the most rewarding. I can't quite bring myself to write popcorn-y stories but I don't look down on a writer for doing so and I wish I had the drive to write some simply entertaining stories. But, since writing is a pain in the rear end and being deep is a pain in the rear end, I let myself be lazy and not write a lot--so there's that. The Sean fucked around with this message at 15:33 on Aug 28, 2014 |
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I think that people often have more things to say than they realize, and those things can be discovered in the course of writing. So if you want to write but don't think you "have anything to say", still write. What's the worst that could happen?
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docbeard posted:I think that people often have more things to say than they realize, and those things can be discovered in the course of writing. On a related note... When I was younger, I thought I had lots to say, but it turns out that most of it was pretentious bullshit. Now I have some other--hopefully better--stuff to say, but I might never have stumbled across this better stuff if I hadn't gotten the other dumber ideas out of my head and on paper first. A sound, consistent writing practice will kick you in the right direction eventually (unless you're a total kook filling up endless notebooks with crazy kooksong).
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