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Cenodoxus posted:Official SH/SC Dickchat Thread Twenty-Fourteen More dickchat that pisses you off: My boss said I don't scream enough ... I think we're don
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This topic has gone on long and hard enough. We really shouldn't make it a thing.
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Aug 27, 2014 22:58
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Cenodoxus posted:On an unrelated note, one of my blade servers went down overnight. ILO was online but the system wouldn't respond to the virtual or physical power buttons. The data center technician pulled out the blade, blew into the connectors, popped it back in and it booted up fine.
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Aug 27, 2014 23:05
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Every time a germ conversation comes up it reminds me of this George Carlin bit about germs.
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Aug 27, 2014 23:08
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DrAlexanderTobacco posted:this is weird guys Just add some choking noises and we'll have a jerkcity strip.
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Aug 27, 2014 23:47
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Silly goonz posting on a comedy web forum something awful dot com llc.
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Aug 28, 2014 00:27
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internet jerk posted:These realizations are pretty much on level with any other important scientific factual discoveries. My whole outlook changed today. Look, damnit, we said no PSTs.
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Aug 28, 2014 02:21
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Well my 240 hours are up and I completed my contract. All went well and they where happy with my services and want me back in 6 months or so. Thanks local gigantic fortune 500 tech company, you did me well.
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Aug 28, 2014 02:33
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evol262 posted:This is actually terrible for the contacts. If it works, there's no problem  E: Just got told that the owner of the company has been funnelling all the profits into his other company and that's why we don't get new equipment. This explains so, so much. dogstile fucked around with this message at 09:52 on Aug 28, 2014 |
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Aug 28, 2014 09:40
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Yay, I've just gotten a "yes, let's proceed with the integration" response; 6 months and 10 days after I've done my bit, sent in the requirements and questions to the client. Now I need to install the self-signed SSL certificates (because why would I even want some sort of testing environment), install lovely API's and read the documentation all over again, because, yes, there're additional requirements I need to code in. 
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Aug 28, 2014 10:41
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PsExec is amazing! Since we have almost no AD access its great to still do stuff remotely on our PCs. Also how the gently caress does it work without any client?
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Aug 28, 2014 10:49
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SEKCobra posted:PsExec is amazing! Since we have almost no AD access its great to still do stuff remotely on our PCs. Also how the gently caress does it work without any client?
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Aug 28, 2014 10:58
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anthonypants posted:It installs a service on the remote machine. Ah. Also, a weird thing I noticed: if I type \\name I get access denied, \\name\ works fine. The exploded name is even listed as name\ in that case.
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Aug 28, 2014 11:21
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We recently updated our ticket system for onboarding new contractors--making network accounts, establishing access, etc. Part of the process is for the requesting supervisor to indicate 1) the start date of the contractor and 2) the end date. Makes sense, right? I've now seen at least a dozen instances of supervisors putting in the same date for the start and end date. So it winds up looking like: User's First Day of Work: 8/14/2014 User's Last Day/Termination Date: 8/14/2014 Mind you, these are not one day assignments. These are contractors who are here for up to a year.  The tech folks changed the ticket to prevent putting in the same start and end date, so now what happens? Users are putting an end date the day after the start date. For 1- to 6-month assignments. In every instance where I've asked a user why they did this, the universal reply is "I dunno." Not "I was confused" or "I put a different date, it must be a bug!" Just "I dunno why I did this stupid thing." We are now changing the ticket to require at least a 1-week difference between start and end dates.
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Aug 28, 2014 17:25
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The Macaroni posted:We recently updated our ticket system for onboarding new contractors--making network accounts, establishing access, etc. Part of the process is for the requesting supervisor to indicate 1) the start date of the contractor and 2) the end date. Makes sense, right? Then they are going to start putting one week differences. Going to be fun terminating those contractors access, then when they ask why, you can point at the ticket.
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Aug 28, 2014 17:34
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This is one of my main gripes with my job now. Supervisors putting in new hire requests the day of or before a person is supposed to start. Then they bring the person by asking for their equipment. Makes us look like assholes and then we have to drop everything to get them ready. No matter how many meetings we seem to have with department heads and HR people just cant seem to get it. We've done everything we can to speed up the process, having equipment on hand, speeding up the imaging sequence, etc. Still happens and pisses me off to no end. Everyone knows its supposed to be 2 weeks and it never seems to happen. Managers are so bad about getting in paperwork that they have actually pressured a women in HR to forge signatures on hire agreements so that they can get people started right away.
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Aug 28, 2014 17:41
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The Macaroni posted:We recently updated our ticket system for onboarding new contractors--making network accounts, establishing access, etc. Part of the process is for the requesting supervisor to indicate 1) the start date of the contractor and 2) the end date. Makes sense, right? You terminate access on the date specified right?
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Aug 28, 2014 17:46
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BaseballPCHiker posted:This is one of my main gripes with my job now. Supervisors putting in new hire requests the day of or before a person is supposed to start. Then they bring the person by asking for their equipment. Makes us look like assholes and then we have to drop everything to get them ready. No matter how many meetings we seem to have with department heads and HR people just cant seem to get it. We've done everything we can to speed up the process, having equipment on hand, speeding up the imaging sequence, etc. Still happens and pisses me off to no end. Everyone knows its supposed to be 2 weeks and it never seems to happen. Managers are so bad about getting in paperwork that they have actually pressured a women in HR to forge signatures on hire agreements so that they can get people started right away. I usually get angry emails asking why a user doesn't have an account yet. Apparently I'm just supposed to know when we hire new people.
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Aug 28, 2014 17:49
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BaseballPCHiker posted:This is one of my main gripes with my job now. Supervisors putting in new hire requests the day of or before a person is supposed to start. Then they bring the person by asking for their equipment. Makes us look like assholes and then we have to drop everything to get them ready. No matter how many meetings we seem to have with department heads and HR people just cant seem to get it. We've done everything we can to speed up the process, having equipment on hand, speeding up the imaging sequence, etc. Still happens and pisses me off to no end. Everyone knows its supposed to be 2 weeks and it never seems to happen. Managers are so bad about getting in paperwork that they have actually pressured a women in HR to forge signatures on hire agreements so that they can get people started right away. Holy poo poo, that's illegal as poo poo. Where I am, we have a two week policy and we enforce it. Got an intern that starts today? Tough poo poo. We'll get to it when we can, and if you throw a fit, you get to explain to your boss why you didn't do your job.
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Aug 28, 2014 17:49
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BaseballPCHiker posted:This is one of my main gripes with my job now. Supervisors putting in new hire requests the day of or before a person is supposed to start. Then they bring the person by asking for their equipment. Makes us look like assholes and then we have to drop everything to get them ready. No matter how many meetings we seem to have with department heads and HR people just cant seem to get it. We've done everything we can to speed up the process, having equipment on hand, speeding up the imaging sequence, etc. Still happens and pisses me off to no end. Everyone knows its supposed to be 2 weeks and it never seems to happen. Managers are so bad about getting in paperwork that they have actually pressured a women in HR to forge signatures on hire agreements so that they can get people started right away. Charge their department for every incident, if you can get that to stick. Otherwise, take your SLA and stick with it like an rear end in a top hat. Make sure the new hire knows that you weren't given time.
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Aug 28, 2014 17:51
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Demonachizer posted:You terminate access on the date specified right?  : WHY CAN'T I SEE MY NEW HIRES? I GOT THE EMAIL RIGHT HERE SAYING THEIR ACCOUNT WOULD BE CREATED : Because you entered the termination date wrong and so the system created their account then promptly shut it down at the end of the day. The system worked as intended, and that's why you got that notification email. May I ask what was confusing about the date entry system? We'd like to fix it if it's not clear. : [actual quote from email]OK, I don’t know how I could have done that with the end date. I’m currently trying to onboard [a lot of people].
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Aug 28, 2014 17:53
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The Macaroni posted:Yup, and that's when I hear about it. This is the case where you can't fix "stupid". At this point, you might have to use the "dog's nose" approach.
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Aug 28, 2014 17:56
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There's always the option to lock out the supervisor and create the new hires' account on that machine... ..with the default two-week wait for a new one, of course.
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Aug 28, 2014 18:04
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Any of the solutions that might make people wake up and give a poo poo would require IT to not be the bitch department of the business.
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Aug 28, 2014 18:06
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BaseballPCHiker posted:Supervisors putting in new hire requests the day of or before a person is supposed to start. Then they bring the person by asking for their equipment. Makes us look like assholes and then we have to drop everything to get them ready.
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Aug 28, 2014 18:14
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Looks like I'm not getting the job that I'm absolutely perfect for simply because the Head of Operations is planning on retiring and I don't want his job. They would rather have someone else run the IT department for 1 - 3 years that is planning on moving over to the department head. I'm kind of really pissed off at this. Also, gently caress VirtualBox. We have Hyper-V and for some reason the domain admins before me set everything up with VirtualBox instead. I can't wait until I'm done with this conversion process.
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Aug 28, 2014 19:06
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Helushune posted:Also, gently caress VirtualBox. We have Hyper-V and for some reason the domain admins before me set everything up with VirtualBox instead. I can't wait until I'm done with this conversion process. Virtualbox is very good at what it does, but what it does is NOT enterprise-grade, in-production virtualization. Sounds like they used the wrong tool for the job.
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Aug 28, 2014 19:28
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capitalpunctuation posted:Virtualbox is very good at what it does, but what it does is NOT enterprise-grade, in-production virtualization. Sounds like they used the wrong tool for the job. Oracle would disagree with you. While the age of the type 2 hypervisor has passed, it wasn't so long ago that GSX and analogues were common, and tools like vboxmanage are explicitly aimed at this use case (enterprise-grade, in-production virtualization). There are a lot of other products which are more suitable in 2014, but it's not as bad as you're making it out to be.
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Aug 28, 2014 19:40
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evol262 posted:Oracle would disagree with you. I don't have any experience with virtual box outside of the desktop software I have used to make test vm's on workstations. Saying that, I would assume that the cost of purchasing commcercial support and hosts designed around virtual box performance can't be that much more of a cost savings than vmware/hyperv. I would think I would have the same headache walking into an environment running on virtual box. Maybe its this great product I just don't know enough about.
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Aug 28, 2014 20:07
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Sickening posted:I don't have any experience with virtual box outside of the desktop software I have used to make test vm's on workstations. Saying that, I would assume that the cost of purchasing commcercial support and hosts designed around virtual box performance can't be that much more of a cost savings than vmware/hyperv. I would think I would have the same headache walking into an environment running on virtual box. No, it isn't a great product, and there's really no such thing as "hosts designed around virtualbox performance". There's almost no reason to use it instead of Hyper-V or vSphere (though you could make an argument for it against some of VMware's other products, depending) or XenServer or whatever. But it's not consumer-grade garbage, either. I guess my point isn't that it's a viable alternative to type 1 hypervisors. It's that it actually is "enterprise-grade, in-production virtualization", even if it doesn't compete very well in that space.
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Aug 28, 2014 20:33
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capitalpunctuation posted:Sounds like they used the wrong tool for the job. I'm pretty sure this was the motto of all the old network admins before me. My personal favorite is they were using a win32 build of PHP to push out registry settings by a series of logon scripts instead of just doing it in group policy. I'm more pissed off that in order for VirtualBox to do just about anything with the VM, you need to power off the guest first. The performance on vboxmanage's clonehd has been abysmal for me as well.
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Aug 28, 2014 20:35
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BaseballPCHiker posted:This is one of my main gripes with my job now. Supervisors putting in new hire requests the day of or before a person is supposed to start. Then they bring the person by asking for their equipment. Makes us look like assholes and then we have to drop everything to get them ready. No matter how many meetings we seem to have with department heads and HR people just cant seem to get it. We've done everything we can to speed up the process, having equipment on hand, speeding up the imaging sequence, etc. Still happens and pisses me off to no end. Everyone knows its supposed to be 2 weeks and it never seems to happen. Managers are so bad about getting in paperwork that they have actually pressured a women in HR to forge signatures on hire agreements so that they can get people started right away. Fucks sake, I also created a process for this which nobody cares about; - Fill in a form about who the person is and what they need - Scan and email to certain address to notify all managers - If all else fails just give me the form. It's not hard but nobody bothers, so I end up having to chase them for details when they need it the next day (or god forbid the current day). And what's more annoying is that I have to get orders signed off from the (constantly in meetings) ops director before sending them off, it's not like they want to keep a supply of spares either because money. People just don't listen or read, today the main printer was being hogged all day so I added another network shared printer for certain people who needed emergency stuff done. One example was a user who was on the phone while I set her up, printer added and I left some instructions on notepad to select this new printer when you want to print, lo and behold a little while later I get asked why isn't the new printer working; because she just kept hitting "Print" on everything rather than select the alternate printer first. Now I know a lot of people are computer illiterate, but come on! Simple instructions!
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Aug 28, 2014 21:17
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When you make a mistake which forces me to drop everything else I'm working on and put in 3 hours of work resolving an issue you've created, and I inform you of completion of same, do you a) express gratitude and offer a final apology for me to deflect with a cheery "it's no problem!" or b) act as though I'm lucky to talk to you, as your job is clearly more important than mine as demonstrated by your ability to create problems but not solve them If you said B, you may have a place in my, and countless other, companies!
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Aug 28, 2014 21:24
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After hearing all the phone conversations my coworkers and managers are having, I still haven't decided if my employer makes people miserable, or if they just have a knack for hiring miserable people.
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Aug 28, 2014 21:28
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Super Slash posted:Fucks sake, I also created a process for this which nobody cares about; Ours is similar - the MAC (Move, Add or Change) form, which has two very distinct and separate sections to fill out, depending on if it's a new employee or and existing one. Which about 30-40% of the supervisors either fill out using the wrong section, fill out using *both* sections, or some of both. Oh, it also has a BOLD CAPS section instructing the sender to add the name of the employee to the From: line of the email, "Example - SUBJECT: MAC form for Mickey Mouse". We have a whole shitload of Mickey on-staff here. 
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Aug 28, 2014 21:29
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Zamboni Apocalypse posted:Ours is similar - the MAC (Move, Add or Change) form, which has two very distinct and separate sections to fill out, depending on if it's a new employee or and existing one. Which about 30-40% of the supervisors either fill out using the wrong section, fill out using *both* sections, or some of both. Do you work for Disney?
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Aug 28, 2014 21:38
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Zamboni Apocalypse posted:Oh, it also has a BOLD CAPS section instructing the sender to add the name of the employee to the From: line of the email, "Example - SUBJECT: MAC form for Mickey Mouse". Every time they do that, provision the username, email address, and computer name accordingly. "Your username is mmouse327. Your email address is mickey.mouse327@company.com. Your computer name is LT-MMOUSE327." Bonus points if you set their Outlook picture, too. 
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Aug 28, 2014 21:55
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MC Fruit Stripe posted:When you make a mistake which forces me to drop everything else I'm working on and put in 3 hours of work resolving an issue you've created, and I inform you of completion of same, do you I think Scott Adams said that you want a job where you piss on the floor, not one where you clean up piss. Sorry if this derails back to bathroom chat. I'll just go back to my mop.
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Aug 28, 2014 22:16
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This one special snowflake keeps bitching at me via email about an admin credentials popup (for Java or Flash, et al) and then making himself unavailable for me to do anything about it. I received an URGENT email that he could not work due to the admin credential popup and I called him back within five minutes. He still hasn't returned my call. I'm just waiting for him to start copying VPs in. P.S. This is the guy that left his laptop in the car to get stolen and then complained about getting a replacement of similar vintage instead of a brand new one.
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MC Fruit Stripe posted:b) act as though I'm lucky to talk to you, as your job is clearly more important than mine as demonstrated by your ability to create problems but not solve them Maybe it's my complete lack of giving a gently caress, but the one time I cleaned up a mess someone caused and they were an rear end in a top hat to me after the fact I made it clear that they were the one who caused it, and the lost productivity is on them. Dick Trauma posted:P.S. This is the guy that left his laptop in the car to get stolen and then complained about getting a replacement of similar vintage instead of a brand new one. I really wonder how often things are actually stolen or just "stolen".
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