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Tatum Girlparts posted:Yea this was my read on it, good to know left wing types are as gullible and easily swayed by invoking the right buzzwords as their teabagger counterparts. My friend, have I told you about my anti-GMO PAC? I call it AGMOPAC.
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Tatum Girlparts posted:Beans are gonna roll around anyway that's what the cornbread's for, in which neither creamed corn nor sugar have any place also you guys are forgetting william kristol's the son of irving kristol, making him arguably the first of the modern idiot child journalists who otherwise would've been laughed out of town if it weren't for their parents' connections Alec Bald Snatch fucked around with this message at 08:12 on Aug 28, 2014 |
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Gail Wynand posted:just do search for brianboyko on reddit lah Is the dude still using his real name for his embarassing nerd posts did he learn nothing from his reaming on D&D?
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Popular Thug Drink posted:southern food question: black eyed peas and collards mixed together, or separate? I love to mix em together with some dirty rice added, but mama always said if you're eating the black eyed peas and collard greens on new years for good luck and money, you can't mix them together or the effects get diluted.
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Shear Modulus posted:Is the dude still using his real name for his embarassing nerd posts did he learn nothing from his reaming on D&D?
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Swan Oat posted:Wait til a non-Gulf person hears you call someone coon rear end. Yeah, we Texans never catch any poo poo, let me tell you! Sometimes you just have to loving laugh at people.
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Aug 28, 2014 09:38
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Aug 28, 2014 10:07
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I thought coon rear end was a term for cajun people specifically not anyone from the state of Louisana. Given their culture's been pretty much wiped out by state education policy I get being sensitive about it, although maybe not at internet people because really
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cheerfullydrab posted:R. Mute, I keep forgetting to ask you. About 10 years ago, I met a man who said he was Belgian and I asked him if he was the right kind of Belgian with some elbow nudging and he got really offended. Who was in the wrong? i'll be sure to bring it up at our next meeting.
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I assume the right kind of Belgians are Walloons
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East Cantons, best cantons
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i didn't actually think that "gook" meant the same thing in Thai as the US, and that was my original question...when I couldn't find the term on (english-speaking)Google and he wasn't answering I figured I'd keep pressing because its not as if it would be out of character for Reindeer to post some casually insulting poo poo
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Would you rather raise a child with bipolar disorder or borderline personality disorder?
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Aug 28, 2014 18:27
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zoux posted:Would you rather raise a child with bipolar disorder or borderline personality disorder? Bipolar. BPD is a total nightmare. At least people with bipolar approximate humans from time to time.
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Aug 28, 2014 18:31
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Happy first (real) day of college football!! gently caress the NCAA forever!! go vandals on Saturday
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Aug 28, 2014 18:32
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Yeah, BPD is like the "makes you an unbelievably lovely person" disease. My friend is having to work through splitting his parents estate with his BPD brother and the stories he tells are just beyond the pale.
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Aug 28, 2014 18:32
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I have represented tons of people with bipolar. It is probably over and misdiagnosed, but whatever. They can function in life and get married and have kids. I dont represent BPD people because they cant even manage to hire an attorney. They are absurdist tragedies.
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The biggest problem with bipolar is treating it effectively because the main treatment, lithium, has cumulative toxicity in the body and the fatal dose isn't much more than the therapeutic dose. Also people who are feeling super manic feel great and don't want to take their meds, and lithium can really make you feel like poo poo. There is no treatment issue with BPD because there are no medications that are recognized as effective treatments.
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Death. Death is an effective treatment.
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zoux posted:The biggest problem with bipolar is treating it effectively because the main treatment, lithium, has cumulative toxicity in the body and the fatal dose isn't much more than the therapeutic dose. Also people who are feeling super manic feel great and don't want to take their meds, and lithium can really make you feel like poo poo. I thought that CBT was showing some promise but maybe I'm thinking of something completely different.
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Supposedly dialectical behavior therapy works but therapists can't handle many patients at a time, even one BPD patient is a huge burden. edit: by "works" I mean "make person less of a total disaster and lower e.g. suicide rate to a level still way higher than normal"
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The Warszawa posted:I thought that CBT was showing some promise but maybe I'm thinking of something completely different. Yeah I don't think CBT is even recommended in the case of BPD. My personal opinion is that serious psychological disorders like BiPD, BPD, clinical depression, etc. are the result of chemical imbalances and better treated with medication than therapy.
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zoux posted:Yeah I don't think CBT is even recommended in the case of BPD. I think I was either thinking of dialectical behavioral therapy (which I understood as a layman with a passing interest to be a subset of CBT) or some other disorder.
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zoux posted:Yeah I don't think CBT is even recommended in the case of BPD.
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Personality disorders generally don't respond well to any kind of treatment. Mood disorders (like bipolar) seem more amenable to crude chemical intervention. Personality disorders seem more like a hardware problem.
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Nintendo Kid posted:That's not so much an opinion as it is long term scientific consensus. Most of my opinions are that. pangstrom posted:Personality disorders generally don't respond well to any kind of treatment. Depends. OCD is quite treatable.
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pangstrom posted:Personality disorders generally don't respond well to any kind of treatment. It is often difficult to really nail down whether a particular person is "really" having a "personality" problem or a "mood" problem before treatment.
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There's OCD and then there's OCPD. Guess which one is easier to treat 
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Yeah psychology is still very much in its "leeching the bad humours" phase and I imagine whoever treats psych problems 500 years in the future will recoil in horror at the practices of our era.
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Yeah my best friend is a psychiatrist and basically thinks the field hasn't really advanced in the last 20 years. I think it has but the points I make are small enough that he's basically right.
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pangstrom posted:Yeah my best friend is a psychiatrist and basically thinks the field hasn't really advanced in the last 20 years. I think it has but the points are make are small enough that he's basically right. There is just sooo much we don't know about the human mind, much less the brain. We treat BiPD with lithium, but we have no idea why it works. It was discovered on accident when a dude was injecting crazy person piss into rats for some reason and used lithium salts for chemical reasons and found out it tranqed them 
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zoux posted:Yeah psychology is still very much in its "leeching the bad humours" phase and I imagine whoever treats psych problems 500 years in the future will recoil in horror at the practices of our era. I envy your belief in human progress.
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What's happening with the Brain Initiative? Are there any cool projects that have funding yet?
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zoux posted:There is just sooo much we don't know about the human mind, much less the brain. We treat BiPD with lithium, but we have no idea why it works. It was discovered on accident when a dude was injecting crazy person piss into rats for some reason and used lithium salts for chemical reasons and found out it tranqed them I think that neuroscience can help better understand these problems but I am doubtful it will be as helpful at first. It's more like neuroscience is "helping us understand what we already know" which is a mistake, I think. Or I found some terrible neuroscientists.
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zoux posted:There is just sooo much we don't know about the human mind, much less the brain. We treat BiPD with lithium, but we have no idea why it works. It was discovered on accident when a dude was injecting crazy person piss into rats for some reason and used lithium salts for chemical reasons and found out it tranqed them And another drug that has been used in recent years for treating bipolar disorder, lamotrigine, was originally a treatment for epilepsy.
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Technogeek posted:And another drug that has been used in recent years for treating bipolar disorder, lamotrigine, was originally a treatment for epilepsy. A lot of psych drugs are like that.
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zoux posted:My personal opinion is that serious psychological disorders like BiPD, BPD, clinical depression, etc. are the result of chemical imbalances and better treated with medication than therapy.
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R. Mute posted:my personal opinion is that it's dumb to pick between the two and that people who suffer from disorders like that need to get both. even if the medication does what it needs to do, there are still psychological elements to it (like 'gently caress i have this disorder how do i handle this' or 'social relationships are hard because of this poo poo') that won't get magicked away with medication. Depends. I think people should start with medication and then get therapy if they need more help. Remember also we live in a country where therapy probably is not covered by insurance and meds are so you get to pick one and not the other 
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