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Chromius
Aug 5, 2014

Stays shiny, even in milk.
Hopefully playing Girl's Side will be a lot less frustrating than going through Tokimeki 3. I've never seen the PS2 version of Girl's Side before and it looks like it's aged better compared to Tokimeki 3.

vibratingsheep posted:


Somethin' ain't right with this boy.
Now, there's nothing wrong about being a grade-schooler who stalks older guys, asks for their phone numbers, takes down their statistics, and wants to hook them up with his older sister :rolleyes:

Robindaybird posted:

Holy poo poo. I tried playing this, and you guys weren't kidding about the Chocolate minigame. It's stupidly finicky
That mini-game really is too annoying.

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Tarezax
Sep 12, 2009

MORT cancels dance: interrupted by MORT

Chromius posted:


Now, there's nothing wrong about being a grade-schooler who stalks older guys, asks for their phone numbers, takes down their statistics, and wants to hook them up with his older sister :rolleyes:


I think he decided that he really wishes he had an older brother, but since that ship already sailed, hooking up his sister with a cool dude is the next best thing.

vibratingsheep
Nov 2, 2013

Fudou, Gunzou. The Face of the Franchise Killer. 2004.
New thread title, and a stream incoming as soon as I get home from work! (Although I might play Diablo 3 with some friends before going back and having Goonko date more guys)

http://twitch.tv/vibratingsheep

Alligator Pie
Apr 26, 2008

Give away the green grass, Give away the sky

Robindaybird posted:

Holy poo poo. I tried playing this, and you guys weren't kidding about the Chocolate minigame. It's stupidly finicky

I am exceedingly terrible at it. I hope it improves with practice. :sigh:

I also have a question: I activated a rival by accident and I'm not sure what to do to make sure she doesn't win. The only guide I've found suggests either ignoring her outright or being ultra friendly to her until she concedes, but what's the best way?

Jenner
Jun 5, 2011
Lowtax banned me because he thought I was trolling by acting really stupid. I wasn't acting.
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Kill with kindness.

Also:

Bookworm
Apr 22, 2014

Cheese Pain posted:

I also have a question: [spoiler] I activated a rival by accident and I'm not sure what to do to make sure she doesn't win. The only guide I've found suggests either ignoring her outright or being ultra friendly to her until she concedes, but what's the best way?

Ignore her and focus on increasing the guy's affection to get him to Tokimeki state as soon as possible. I don't think she can steal him if he's got maximum affection for you. Hanging out with her during rival mode tends to increase your stress a lot and even if you befriend her again, she can still steal the guy.

Poil
Mar 17, 2007

Screw the guys in the game, we need this one instead.

Triggerhappypilot
Nov 8, 2009

SVMS-01 UNION FLAG GREATEST MOBILE SUIT

ENACT = CHEAP EUROTRASH COPY




Poil posted:

Screw the guys in the game, we need this one instead.



I dunno, Madoka seems to have shades of Mikorin in him.

Gay Abortions
Dec 12, 2007

Poil posted:

I assume that we're not going to be calling her etoile-sama? :v:

I'd play that game.

Alligator Pie
Apr 26, 2008

Give away the green grass, Give away the sky

Bookworm posted:

Ignore her and focus on increasing the guy's affection to get him to Tokimeki state as soon as possible. I don't think she can steal him if he's got maximum affection for you. Hanging out with her during rival mode tends to increase your stress a lot and even if you befriend her again, she can still steal the guy.

Thank you, that's very helpful! It's only been one year in game and he's already at :) stage so I'm sure I can get him to Tokimeki state if I keep trying.

I'm surprised to find that this game is actually really, really addictive. I didn't think I'd enjoy the style of gameplay!

Chromius
Aug 5, 2014

Stays shiny, even in milk.

Tarezax posted:

I think he decided that he really wishes he had an older brother, but since that ship already sailed, hooking up his sister with a cool dude is the next best thing.
And here I was always suspected that was he so adamant about his sister finding a man so that that she would get married, move out, and he then could take her spacious room for himself.

What an amazing dancer Goro is :allears:

Chromius fucked around with this message at 04:50 on Aug 31, 2014

Poil
Mar 17, 2007

Gay Abortions posted:

I'd play that game.
Thinking about it, it could be pretty good. At the start you pick one of the three schools (provided it's set after the story so choosing Spica won't give you any horrible events :gonk: ), and the main goal would be to get together with a girl and become etoile. Maybe even some semi-hidden ways for cross-school etoile. Now I want the game to exist.

Gay Abortions
Dec 12, 2007

Poil posted:

Thinking about it, it could be pretty good. At the start you pick one of the three schools (provided it's set after the story so choosing Spica won't give you any horrible events :gonk: ), and the main goal would be to get together with a girl and become etoile. Maybe even some semi-hidden ways for cross-school etoile. Now I want the game to exist.

If it stuck more to the books and less to the anime the Spica route wouldn't be so bad, but having things after the official story would be a great way to use the setting without retreading the same characters that have been rewritten like four times already.

Poil
Mar 17, 2007

Gay Abortions posted:

If it stuck more to the books and less to the anime the Spica route wouldn't be so bad, but having things after the official story would be a great way to use the setting without retreading the same characters that have been rewritten like four times already.
I haven't read the books so I've no idea how the story differs in them. But I have read the manga, which was mildly disappointing compared to the anime.

Gay Abortions
Dec 12, 2007

Poil posted:

I haven't read the books so I've no idea how the story differs in them. But I have read the manga, which was mildly disappointing compared to the anime.

The books and the manga follow the same plot, but the books elaborate on things and add a lot of side scenes that are adorable, and also don't end unexpectedly. I couldn't get through the anime, unfortunately, because of the sorts of things that would make the Spica route really terrifying in a game.

vibratingsheep
Nov 2, 2013

Fudou, Gunzou. The Face of the Franchise Killer. 2004.
Tokimemo Girl's Side, Chapter 2: When will my life begin?

4/5: Day 1 as a girl.


So here we are: the dawn of the first day. The meetings are out of the way, and it's time for Goonko to have some me time.

We start with a quick analysis of the activities and stats.

The stats, listed on the bottom of the screen, are slightly different than before, and I've tried to look up standardized translations for these things so people don't get confused by my naming conventions. They are:


Stress | Rich
Intelligence | Arts | Fashion
Fitness | Social | Charm

The "social" category is the one that most confuses me, since that stat has replaced Guts and it would seem like it follows the same function, but the word Social makes me wonder about what its role in the game is. I am probably going to revert to old habits and use Academics a few times instead of Intelligence, so be aware of that too.

Rich is new to this game - it's the game's currency. In Tokimeki Memorial 4, it's used to buy presents, go on the more expensive dates, and buy new clothes. You can get more of it by either working a part-time job on the side or waiting for your monthly allowance. 4's allowance was 10 Rich per month, with slight increases in allowance possible based on your grades. We'll see how much of what I've said is true in this game. The rest is pretty straightforward.



The activity icons are mostly familiar - the sleeping figure means Sleep, the books represent Study, the painter means Art, the blank yellow space will be Club, the runner is Exercise... and then there are three that I've never seen before: some kind of magazine about shoes and hats, lipstick, and a girl's face. Mousing over the girl's face says that this activity is "Talk art with Mizuki", so I guess it'll raise Art and Social.

The lipstick icon is most likely going to be the equivalent of preening - it'll raise Charm, and Goonko won't need that quite yet.


The magazine icon says that this activity involves reading magazines to understand current trends and fashions, so I'm going to guess that this will raise Fashion as well as Social and Charm, but who knows?

The icons on the bottom are pretty clear too. The three blank slots are for weekend-only activities, which should be phone call, go out on a date, and uhhhhh... I'll get back to you on what the third one will be. The last row looks like a changing room, browsing the Internet to check the news, checking the schedule, and what looks like e-mail. I didn't bother with e-mail at first, even though I probably should have earlier. The first thing I did was hit the closet.


This is Goonko's default outfit. There are no other options, so before we go out on a date with anyone, we'll need to figure out how to get new clothes.


Dear God, what is Tsukushi trying to do while Goonko is sleeping on the save menu?!



:stonk:

What I think Goonko looks like right now, part 4:


Anyway, because I've never done it before, I go with the magazine action first. The first thing I notice is that the art style gets very scribbly when there aren't people standing around, and to be honest, it's pretty charming in spite of its rushed look. Take a look at the magazine success and failure screens to see what I mean:


Shoes! Shirts! Smiles! And, uh, a loss of Academics and Social stats. Huh.


I don't get it! I don't get fashion at all! Please note that this is the default opinion of the author.

4/6: The first phone call


Goonko: (Whoa, who could be calling?)
???: ...Hello?
Goonko: Hi!
???: ...
Goonko: ...
???: ...Who is this?
Goonko: Huh? Uh, my name's Fudou Kimiko.

What I think Goonko looks like right now, part 5:


???: Oh, from the entrance ceremony. It's me. Hazuki.
Goonko: Hazuki-kun?! How do you know my number?
Kei: Well, some passing grade school kid gave me this number.
Goonko: (Tsukushi...)
Goonko: Wh, whoa, that's weird!
(time passes)
Kei: Well, I'll talk to you later.
Goonko: Yeah, later!
Goonko: (Wow, that was a shock. Geez, Tsukushi!)
Goonko: (Oh well. I'll try calling Kei some time!)

That's a nope, Goonko. So far, Kei has shown about as much personality as drywall. We'll be skipping on him this run, since Shioris are boring and they're extra boring when they can't even hold a normal conversation.

4/7: Joining a club!

Tokimemo Girl's Side has 8 clubs, and if it follows the TM2 pattern, all of them will be linked to a specific guy. The clubs are:


The baseball club is begging for a girl to join and manage the team, since all they have is dudes. It's tempting, but I'd like to save Koushien for when I can imagine that I'm the ace pitcher/star of the team, not the manager. Sorry, Kaedeko.


The tennis club, as always, makes reference to Ace wo Nerae.


The art club's poster is very stylized. By that I mean that it's covered with sayings like "life is short, art endures" and other stylized text. It practically screams "We are a bunch of snotty posers" to me.


The gardening club looks incredibly boring. Not because of their poster, it's fine, but because it's the gardening club.


The basketball club catches my eye immediately because it won't stop at anything short of total domination.


The cheerleading club is the cheerleading club.


The brass band brings back bad memories of Shiori.


The crafts club looks completely unthreatening.

The only attractive choice here is to join the basketball team, and help them achieve their dreams of total domination.

What I think Goonko looks like right now, part 6:



Goonko: Alright! I'll join the girls basketball team.

Just like in every other Tokimemo, the third Sunday of the month is mandatory practice for sports clubs. Miss it twice, and yer out! However, unlike its contemporary Tokimemos, Girl's Side doesn't have the handy dandy reminder for what you're doing each week, which I've gotten used to from 2 and 3. I had to reload the game twice because I missed club! It's a minor thing, but it's definitely noticeable when it's gone.


Goonko: (Augh, I forgot my towel! I'm gonna be home late!)
Goonko: (Hmm? There's someone still in the gym. I wonder who it is?)


???: Huh? What's your problem?
Goonko: Uh--
Goonko: I, I left my towel here after practice.


I have to say. There's something off about his body proportions. It looks like his arms go down past his knees. Or he just has his basketball shorts pulled up way too high, I'm not sure yet.


???: Huh? Oh, you mean this?
???: I forgot my towel at home today, so I just used this one.
Goonko: Seriously?
???: What? It's your fault for leaving it here.
???: I'll wash it and give it back.
Goonko: Uh, okay. Thanks, uh--

Okay, yeah, he's pulled up his shorts way far. Never mind. I think.


Kazuma: Name's Suzuka Kazuma.
Kazuma: I'm on the basketball team, but I think you already figured that out.
Goonko: My name's Fudou Kimiko. I'm on the girls basketball team too.
Goonko: It's really nice of you to stay behind and mop up by yourself, Suzuka-kun.


Kazuma: No it's not, it's just my punishment.
Goonko: Your punishment for what?
Kazuma: I've fouled out of three games in a row.
Kazuma: They're just stupid scrimmages, who cares?
Goonko: Umm, want me to help you mop up?
Goonko: It looks like hard work.
Kazuma: Nah, I'm almost done.
Kazuma: You should go home, it's getting late.
Goonko: Okay.


Kazuma: S, sorry about the towel.
Goonko: (Suzuka-kun? Wait, I remember now, the coach always yells "Suzukaaa!")

It took me a while to figure it out because he spent most of the time mumbling, but I got this one on my own. Kazuma is played by none other than:

Hiyama Nobuyuki, the King of Braves!

Hiyama Nobuyuki's signature robot roles:
1) Shiro Amada (08th MS team)


2) Shishio Gai (GaoGaiGar)


3) Viral (Gurren Lagann)


The man has made a career out of shouting at the top of his lungs, because he's drat good at it. The mecha genre wouldn't be the same without him.

Hiyama Nobuyuki's most, uh, "special" role: Hirano Kouta (Author of HellsingHigh School of the Dead)


Hiyama also made a name for himself playing giant nerds, not just in High School of the Dead, but in Genshiken and My Teen Romantic Comedy SNAFU as well.

What I think every time he opens his mouth: SYSTEM CHANGE! HAMMER CONNECT! GOLDION HAMMERRRRRR! HAMMER HELL! HAMMER HEAVEN! HIKARI NI NAREEEEEEEEEEE (There may not be enough capital letters, exclamation points, and vowels in there. He's JUST THAT LOUD.)

Back to the LP. Eventually. I think I need a cold shower to wash all of this robot off of me, or I'm going to scream for the rest of this post and forget that I'm supposed to be a girl.

Okay. I'm better now.

4/14: Back to being a girl

This is what it's like to fail at hanging out with Mizuki. It's pretty amazing.



Success, in comparison, is kind of disappointing. Both outcomes raise Art and Social, while lowering Academics.



4/18: Walking home from school, seen from the other side.


Goonko: (Oh, there's Suzuka-kun.)

The R1 button screams "press me! I'm candylike and full of nicknames!" Who am I to resist it?


Here's the list of what you can call Kazuma, in order from left to right, top to bottom:

  • Suzuka-kun
  • Kazuma
  • Suzuka
  • Suzukaaa!
  • Mister Hotblooded
  • Kazu-rin
  • Kazuma-kun
  • Suzuka-san
  • Kazu-kun

While I really really want to call him Mister Hotblooded right now, that'd probably put us behind far enough that I'd rather just try it later. It's amazing, though.


Option 1: Ask him to walk home together.
Option 2: Invite him to a stop by a cafe.
Option 3: Walk home alone.


The second option is new, and kind of welcome. It's a pretty good way to integrate the "hey, wanna grab a bite?" post-date event that got really repetitive in TM2 and TM3. Just make it a separate thing, something you can do on weekends that isn't a date.


Ask him to walk home together.
Goonko: Suzuka-kun!
Kazuma: Huh? Oh, it's you.
Goonko: Are you heading home?
Goonko: Want to walk home together?
Kazuma: I have some more training to do, so I can't do that right now.
Goonko: Oh, I see. Later, then.
Goonko: (Well, I guess I have to go home alone.)

4/21: Time to go shopping.


So it turns out that the weekend-only activities are to call a boy, go shopping alone, or talk to Tsukushi about boys. It's time... to shop.


Choosing this option brings up a map of the town, pointing out shops in the mall, the shopping district, and the parkside avenue. First, I must go to the temple of capitalism.


Oh. I guess there aren't any good shops here yet. Maybe I need to read more magazines or the Internet before there are shops here. I guess we'll go to the parkside avenue.


Much better. We either have the general store Simon, or Boutique Sofia. Let's keep exploring, Boutique Sofia sounds expensive and really really pink.


On the other side of the avenue, we have Boutique Sierra, or Jewelry Vincent. Boutique Sierra seems to carry T-shirts, so we'll head there first since it seems less expensive than anything else so far.


Dear God. Is this what shopping for clothes feels like? There are so many options, and so many outfits. It's pretty overwhelming, and so I'll have to go piece by piece through and see what look we're trying to create for Goonko.

Tops:
  • Long-sleeved blouse (pink)
  • Sailor blouse (blue and red stripes)
  • Polo shirt (blue)
  • Raglan T-shirt (white with blue sleeves and a music design)
  • Half-sleeve T-shirt (gray with a girl's hand design)
  • Oversized T-shirt (this is the only one with pockets and therefore I bought it)
  • Knit pattern sweater
  • Sleeveless parka


That was just the tops, the skirts offer a similar amount of paralyzing choi--hold on.


USA! USA! USA!

Okay, so with the miniskirt already bought, the rest of the lists:

Skirts/bottoms:
  • Knee-length skirt (cheetah striped)
  • Long tight skirt (pink)
  • Straight pants (blue denim)
  • Sabrina pants (black)
  • Culotte skirt (khaki)
  • Overalls (black)

Swimsuits:
  • One piece swimsuit (red top, white and blue sailor stripe bottom)
  • Bikini (orange and blue)



Full outfits
  • Short sleeve one piece (orange)
  • Denim one-piece
  • Jumper skirt (red)

After minutes of deliberation, and some rather embarrassed googling of what culotte skirts, Sabrina pants, and Raglan shirts are, I ended up with the following haul for Goonko's closet. The culotte skirt, the long-sleeved blouse, the sabrina pants, and the oversize T-shirt, leaving Goonko with 47 Rich left over.


Whoops. I skipped the first basketball practice to go shopping, because even though the cursor defaults to basketball, there's no other indication that it's basketball practice today. Well, I guess I can't miss any more for the rest of this game!

Next time: Shoot the J! Shoot it!

vibratingsheep fucked around with this message at 11:19 on Sep 2, 2014

Seraphic Neoman
Jul 19, 2011


Whoah, whoah, whoah hold the phone! We can date Gai? Well forget about the other chumps then! GaoGaiGar is just the best.

Terper
Jun 26, 2012


That style is pretty charming, yeah. Mizuki also seems like a cool friend from those, letting us try out her clothes. Maybe we did choose the best room after all.

Catalina
May 20, 2008



Yay! :neckbeard: It's almost embarrassing how much I was looking forward to this update. It was hilarious this week, as always!

vibratingsheep posted:

Dear God. Is this what shopping for clothes feels like? There are so many options, and so many outfits. It's pretty overwhelming, and so I'll have to go piece by piece through and see what look we're trying to create for Goonko.

It's a pretty close approximation of what shopping in a girl's clothing store is like when you don't know what your'e doing! One of the first things to learn about fashion is that white clothing and black clothing will go with about anything, so it's best to start a wardrobe with pieces in those colors. :eng101: I'll bet that's what Goonko was reading about in her magazines.

DoubleDonut
Oct 22, 2010


Fallen Rib
Suzuka has suddenly become the only possible choice. gently caress Gundam Wing; we can't pass up Madarame.

ChaosArgate
Oct 10, 2012

Why does everyone think I'm going to get in trouble?

Hiyama Nobuyuki's a voice very many of us will probably have recognized even if we're not into mecha anime. He's none other than the voice of the Adult Hero of Time himself, Link!

He also screamed CLAIRE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! a lot in Tales of Rebirth as Veigue Lungberg.

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!

ChaosArgate posted:

Hiyama Nobuyuki's a voice very many of us will probably have recognized even if we're not into mecha anime. He's none other than the voice of the Adult Hero of Time himself, Link!
I remember the first time I watched GaoGaiGar, got halfway through the episode to the yelling, and went "waiiiiiiiiit a minute."

Blaze Dragon
Aug 28, 2013
LOWTAX'S SPINE FUND

ChaosArgate posted:

Hiyama Nobuyuki's a voice very many of us will probably have recognized even if we're not into mecha anime. He's none other than the voice of the Adult Hero of Time himself, Link!

The true biggest disappointment about Super Smash Bros Brawl, not having Hiyama's voice anymore as Link because Twilight Princess Link is voiced by someone else (who does a decent enough job, mind you, but he's nowhere near as hotblooded as goddamn Nobuyuki Hiyama)

I'm sorry for Dio but I think who we should date is clear now. Also call him Mr. Hotblooded, now and forever.

FredMSloniker
Jan 2, 2008

Why, yes, I do like Kirby games.
Looks like the spoiler and sub tags don't work together well; I can see most of the text.

Panic! at Nabisco
Jun 6, 2007

it seemed like a good idea at the time
I have a tip that will save you many, many headaches: Look up your horoscope on the internet. It's very important.

Also, if we want to woo the King of the Braves, I'm guessing we'll want to dress Goonko up like some kind of Japanese schoolgirl approximation of Sporty Spice.

e: Spoiler tagged things that people going in completely blind might want to find out for themselves if they hate fun.

Panic! at Nabisco fucked around with this message at 23:53 on Sep 2, 2014

Kinu Nishimura
Apr 24, 2008

SICK LOOT!
Oh my lord, the USA miniskirt is incredible.

evilspacehopper
Oct 10, 2012

Hinawa remembered in death as she was in life: endlessly eating birds.

ChaosArgate posted:

Hiyama Nobuyuki's a voice very many of us will probably have recognized even if we're not into mecha anime. He's none other than the voice of the Adult Hero of Time himself, Link!

He also screamed CLAIRE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! a lot in Tales of Rebirth as Veigue Lungberg.

And you know who else has voiced Link before? Hikaru Midorikawa.

Glazius
Jul 22, 2007

Hail all those who are able,
any mouse can,
any mouse will,
but the Guard prevail.

Clapping Larry
drat, it seems like everything hits Academics. Does Studying bring it up fast or something?

vibratingsheep
Nov 2, 2013

Fudou, Gunzou. The Face of the Franchise Killer. 2004.

Glazius posted:

drat, it seems like everything hits Academics. Does Studying bring it up fast or something?

Not as far as I know. Goonko's Academics is sitting at around 20. It's pretty bad.

Sindai
Jan 24, 2007
i want to achieve immortality through not dying
Mister Hotblooded is great, but what's even better is the option to just yell his name constantly (Suzukaaaa!).

Panic! at Nabisco
Jun 6, 2007

it seemed like a good idea at the time

vibratingsheep posted:

Not as far as I know. Goonko's Academics is sitting at around 20. It's pretty bad.
I don't remember if this is a thing in GS1 or not, but in the later games you can get academics up by hanging out with the designated Smart Friend.

e: Spoilered it, just in case.

Alligator Pie
Apr 26, 2008

Give away the green grass, Give away the sky
I'm really looking forward to seeing Goonko try for total conquest in both basketball and love!

I am in agreement that she needs to choose him just for Hiyama Noboyuki. He was also Hiei in YuYu Hakusho.

...Now I can't get the Gao Gai Gar theme song out of my head. That is not necessarily a bad thing.

Fang Blade Havoc
Jun 8, 2011

Luke what are you doing, stop that
Not all activities hurt your grades! Just most of them. I don't think it's really a spoiler to say that artsy things usually give you smart points, I imagine brass band would've done the trick.

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!

Cheese Pain posted:

...Now I can't get the Gao Gai Gar theme song out of my head. That is not necessarily a bad thing.
Dude, you can't just post that and not link that ode to baddassery for the rest of the world.

cuc
Nov 25, 2013

Reverend Cheddar posted:

Might belong to the same group of VAs? I dunno. Oh god Quatre was my favorite pilot back in the day, I cracked up massively to see this.
I'm hoping the game throws us a ridiculous curveball and has, like, Wufei doing the voice of our sensitive new-age glasses boy or something.

Haven't looked into this, but this may be part of the reason. The main VAs in Gundam Wing and here are likely from the same agency.

Alligator Pie
Apr 26, 2008

Give away the green grass, Give away the sky

Coolguye posted:

Dude, you can't just post that and not link that ode to baddassery for the rest of the world.

You're right! I've made a grievous error. Thank you for righting that for me! :unsmith:

I remember once the admin of a forum I frequented when I was younger made it so that this song looped endlessly on the main page. It was hilarious, but it annoyed so many people. :laugh:

Happy Blue
Oct 18, 2012
I've never played this game, but from the intro, where he seems to be cupping his ears and listening to everyone else on the street, and since he seems to be the default option for the audiophile room, I'm guessing that Hazuki has super-hearing. Now I kind of want to see him dressed up in a superhero costume, stabbing people with those giant long-stemmed roses he was carrying...

Mister Hotblooded is hilarious. Can you find out what the ridiculous nicknames for the other boys are? I really want to see you start calling your homeroom teacher something really silly.

7c Nickel
Apr 27, 2008

Happy Blue posted:

Mister Hotblooded is hilarious. Can you find out what the ridiculous nicknames for the other boys are? I really want to see you start calling your homeroom teacher something really silly.

The homeroom teacher actually has some of the worst/best.

Poil
Mar 17, 2007

Goonko should spend a lot of time practicing singing.

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Poulpe
Nov 11, 2006
Canadian Santa Extraordinaire
In both examples you posted you get better stat gains from failing an activity than succeeding. What is happening :psyduck:

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