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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ze_3yTxd8c Baller Time fucked around with this message at 23:52 on Aug 28, 2014 |
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Aug 28, 2014 23:49
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Alexzandvar posted:Pretty much the only video games I can think of pushing a social agenda are retarded poo poo like Bioware games or pretentious indie poo poo like Gone Home. I totally agree, I hate it when they diversify the cast. I want my blonde white males saving the galaxy from blonde white villains goddammit. Also lol being threatened by a $10 game on Steam. e: You loving keep that work of art out of this topic.
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Aug 28, 2014 23:49
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No that is using homoeroticism as farse get your terminology right god
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Aug 28, 2014 23:50
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you either live to become a social jstice minstrel, or you already were one. Something like this
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Aug 28, 2014 23:52
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Loot posted:I totally agree, I hate it when they diversify the cast. I want my blonde white males saving the galaxy from blonde white villains goddammit. My entire point is there was no SJW take over of video games, but If you think the gay pilot in ME3 wasn't forced when the very first time you meet him he is crying over his dead husband and the only defining character trait he has is "I'm gay" your not paying any attention.
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Aug 28, 2014 23:52
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Alexzandvar posted:A dead body is one of the extremely few things that cannot be sexualized, because by pure human nature we dislike looking at dead people or even considering having sex with them. Sure you could say a advertisement that utilizes a female corpse in a compromising position is inappropriate, but in a video game were it's simply part of the atmosphere it's entirely appropriate. If you have zombies on a beach, some of the woman zombies are going to be in Bikini's, this is not some agenda to sexualize the dead woman, but to keep the tone consistent. It would be stupid to make every female corpse on a beach wear normal clothes or a 1 piece. It would also be equally stupid to have a dead prostitute in a whorehouse be dressed like she is going to a business meeting. So why are the dead dudes in the brothel fully clothed? Doesn't that just kill your immersion?
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Aug 28, 2014 23:52
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TGLT posted:you, a truly stupid fucker: hmm yes well no one thinks corpses are sexy Musical skill is makes a man really attractive for a lot of women, just saying. It's tangential, but there's a reason why they show an executed classical musician, not an executed garbage man.
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Aug 28, 2014 23:53
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Alexzandvar posted:My entire point is there was no SJW take over of video games, but If you think the gay pilot in ME3 wasn't forced when the very first time you meet him he is crying over his dead husband and the only defining character trait he has is "I'm gay" your not paying any attention. lol I cucked his dead husband when I played because I'm pretty sure shepard starts to finger him in the engine room right next to the photo of his dead gay husband.
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Aug 28, 2014 23:54
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Mulefisk posted:Musical skill is makes a man really attractive for a lot of women, just saying. It's tangential, but there's a reason why they show an executed classical musician, not an executed garbage man. Nobody would hire an assassin to kill a garbage man?
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Aug 28, 2014 23:54
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cp91886 posted:So why are the dead dudes in the brothel fully clothed? Doesn't that just kill your immersion? Well considering she gave no examples of the men being naked, as well as the fact both examples she gave were of whorehouses from a mafia game and a game set in an art deco themed city it's not a huge leap for the men to be in suits. I'm not saying there is no sexism in video games, all I am saying is Anita is going about the wrong way of convincing people whats wrong. And again she could try to suggest some way to fix things rather than acting so negative all the time.
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Aug 28, 2014 23:55
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that dude is clearly loving his cello
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Aug 28, 2014 23:55
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cp91886 posted:So why are the dead dudes in the brothel fully clothed? Doesn't that just kill your immersion? I haven't played the game, are the dudes guards, or johns? If they are johns, are they in private rooms, where you might expect them to be naked, or in the public areas of the brothel?
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Aug 28, 2014 23:55
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Alexzandvar posted:A dead body is one of the extremely few things that cannot be sexualized, because by pure human nature we dislike looking at dead people or even considering having sex with them. Sure you could say a advertisement that utilizes a female corpse in a compromising position is inappropriate, but in a video game were it's simply part of the atmosphere it's entirely inappropriate. If you have zombies on a beach, some of the woman zombies are going to be in Bikini's, this is not some agenda to sexualize the dead woman, but to keep the tone consistent. It would be stupid to make every female corpse on a beach wear normal clothes or a 1 piece. It would also be equally stupid to have a dead prostitute in a whorehouse be dressed like she is going to a business meeting. This is simply not true, it is a good gut instinct to be repulsed by sexualized bodies, but the depiction of bodies are often undistinguishable from non-moving characters. The choice of setting is not irrelevant to the discussion here. The choice of setting and tone is explicitly stated as a part of the trope. So the criticism is of the necessity of violence and level of violence to set tone. Essentially the question of good storytelling.
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Aug 28, 2014 23:56
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what the hell is a trope
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Aug 28, 2014 23:56
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gently caress the ROW posted:what the hell is a trope something you need archives access for
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Aug 28, 2014 23:57
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I think it's a group of french mimes or something
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Aug 28, 2014 23:57
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gently caress the ROW posted:what the hell is a trope a trope is a repeated thing in a medium
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Aug 28, 2014 23:58
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Mulefisk posted:Musical skill is makes a man really attractive for a lot of women, just saying. It's tangential, but there's a reason why they show an executed classical musician, not an executed garbage man. valets are kinda like garbage mans. they're real working class folks, & i respect them a lot for their hard work for poo poo pay. gently caress the ROW posted:what the hell is a trope when a thing repeatedly happens a whole bunch across all media, like person who is wacky and funny is paired with the person who is all "oh no this is too crazy for me" and gives that stupid fucker the stink eye.
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Aug 28, 2014 23:58
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thanks I figured it was rope related, because rope is right in the word
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Aug 28, 2014 23:58
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http://www.le-dictionnaire.com/definition.php?mot=trope
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Aug 28, 2014 23:58
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My two trigger words are problematic and trigger. If anyone posts either of those words I will close this thread and literally shake with angst and anger. You can't stop me!
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Aug 28, 2014 23:58
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Falsum posted:I'll go with the simpler answer that Anita believes monarchy is wrong and the princess in her game idea is her power fantasy so of course she would abolish it. Indeed, but I find it distressing that in her power fantasy power is gained through physical violence and deceit. While I do understand Anita's objective of inverting the "princess in distress" trope, I don't think she would want to suggest that the way towards women's empowerment is through violence and subterfuge. I know that fighting and stealth mechanics are a large part of video game language, and making a game without them would be trickier, but you don't just turn your standard male protagonist into a female, have her do the same poo poo they guy was doing anyway, and claim that you are inverting a trope and empowering women. What you're doing is just proving you're a hack who reaches for the most obvious idea out there.
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Aug 28, 2014 23:59
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Alexzandvar posted:A dead body is one of the extremely few things that cannot be sexualized, because by pure human nature we dislike looking at dead people or even considering having sex with them. Dude face it we have a necrophiliac culture. It's out of control!
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Aug 29, 2014 00:00
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Azraelle posted:This is simply not true, it is a good gut instinct to be repulsed by sexualized bodies, but the depiction of bodies are often undistinguishable from non-moving characters. Most good story telling upsets people, life isn't pretty, nice, happy and unoffensive. A game with whorehouses should absolutely have woman in said whorehouses look like whores, because it would be dumb not to. gently caress the ROW posted:what the hell is a trope A crutch for people who feel the need to categorize every theme in story telling, as if compartmentalizing a flowing narrative makes any sense.
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Aug 29, 2014 00:00
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Falsum posted:I haven't played the game, are the dudes guards, or johns? If they are johns, are they in private rooms, where you might expect them to be naked, or in the public areas of the brothel? I don't know, I haven't played it either, I just think with all these dead prostitutes laying around it's weird there isn't at least one dick flappin' about
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Aug 29, 2014 00:01
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If a game has topless dudes there should be topless women too.  Why should only guys be allowed to go without tops?
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Aug 29, 2014 00:03
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Alexzandvar I challenge you to a fist fight irl pick the time and place
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Aug 29, 2014 00:03
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as is the fate of all gbs threads, this has instead of being a funny mock of zoe quinn, become a actual loving serious discussion on minority perspectives thanks to faggots like kiwi bigtree
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Aug 29, 2014 00:04
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In the Middle East we have loads of people (like honestly probably a majority) who believe 9/11 wasn't done by Muslims and is a Jewish conspiracy to make us look bad. Something about this whole situation reminds me of people who think Jews did 9/11
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Aug 29, 2014 00:04
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Alexzandvar I challenge you to a fist fight irl pick the time and place A gentleman's duel, anime katana's at dawn.
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Aug 29, 2014 00:05
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Brannock posted:as is the fate of all gbs threads, this has instead of being a funny mock of zoe quinn, become a actual loving serious discussion on minority perspectives thanks to faggots like kiwi bigtree We need to introduce a new "narative element" (just made this up, copyright, trademark, patron link:) such as maybe a rainbow haired indie game dev sets themselves on fire to protest dark souls
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Aug 29, 2014 00:06
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Brannock posted:as is the fate of all gbs threads, this has instead of being a funny mock of zoe quinn, become a actual loving serious discussion on minority perspectives thanks to faggots like kiwi bigtree glad to help
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Aug 29, 2014 00:07
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I remember the ad campaign for Hitman Blood Money featuring very dead women in a very sexualized way. It made me really uncomfortable.
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Aug 29, 2014 00:08
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Don't worry Zoe is bound to find a way to breathe more life into this.
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Aug 29, 2014 00:08
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gently caress the ROW posted:We need to introduce a new "narative element" (just made this up, copyright, trademark, patron link:) such as maybe a rainbow haired indie game dev sets themselves on fire to protest dark souls just got word that someone is tweeting this is 100% happening at PAX
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Aug 29, 2014 00:08
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Falsum posted:Actually that's pretty accurate. Misrepresenting examples on top of manipulative and dishonest tactics. She's a lot more like Rush Limbaugh TBH
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Aug 29, 2014 00:08
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A. Beaverhausen posted:I remember the ad campaign for Hitman Blood Money featuring very dead women in a very sexualized way. It made me really uncomfortable. That's the entire point, it's to get you to pay attention to it. Marketers really don't care if you are aroused or are freaked out. All publicity is good publicity.
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Aug 29, 2014 00:10
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I wanna see all the Zoe + 5 guys households people will make when The Sims 4 comes out in a few weeks
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Aug 29, 2014 00:11
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Alexzandvar posted:That's the entire point, it's to get you to pay attention to it. Marketers really don't care if you are aroused or are freaked out. All publicity is good publicity. True, but it made me uncomfortable to the point where I didn't buy it until years after it was relevent and for $5. I gather that's not what they were going for.
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Aug 29, 2014 00:12
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I was thinking, why don't sexist MRA types just be gay? Like, if you hate women so much then why not just have sex with men instead of having to put up with women who you hate?
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