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Auspol4Croydon
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# ? Aug 29, 2014 02:34 |
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# ? May 25, 2024 14:05 |
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Sanguine posted:Any chance of something new actually coming out of this? Pretty sure something already came out of it in the UK, where they have the same thing of it being illegal to just flat out refuse to refund money under any circumstances.
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# ? Aug 29, 2014 02:42 |
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I think getting a refund for your videogames may be slightly less important than the transition to a user-pays medical system that could see you dead without insurance.
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# ? Aug 29, 2014 02:46 |
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Endman posted:I think getting a refund for your videogames may be slightly less important than the transition to a user-pays medical system that could see you dead without insurance. You can take our lives, but you'll never take OUR FREEMAN!
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# ? Aug 29, 2014 02:50 |
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Zenithe posted:I'm pretty sure the required returns policy also covers products not being as described, not just being faulty. So in this instance, if a product on steam was said to have features it didn't include you should be able to return it. Yeah fair point, guess I'll have to get my steam rage hat on (which I coincidentally purchased via steam). Palmersaurus posted:I've got a few older games re-released onto steam that straight wont work with modern setups. Huh, well that does suck. Some much for the 0 risk theory! (also get old stuff from GoG, what is this)
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# ? Aug 29, 2014 02:56 |
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Endman posted:I think getting a refund for your videogames may be slightly less important than the transition to a user-pays medical system that could see you dead without insurance. Woah, woah. The freemarket is clearly established in vija games, we must protect it. Healthcare is still in socialist hell, though, so no point taking it seriously till it is dragged into the light.
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# ? Aug 29, 2014 02:57 |
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Endman posted:I think getting a refund for your videogames may be slightly less important than the transition to a user-pays medical system that could see you dead without insurance. It sure is terrible living in this dystopia where we've been genetically engineered to only be able to care about one thing at a time, apparently.
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# ? Aug 29, 2014 03:03 |
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LordNagash posted:It sure is terrible living in this dystopia where we've been genetically engineered to only be able to care about one thing at a time, apparently. I didn't realise we lived in a dystopia because I was too worried about the healthcare systeOH MY GOD IT'S REAL
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# ? Aug 29, 2014 03:04 |
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Haha, So the NBN was really just a way to get more homes connected to HFC ('cable' internet) so that foxtel reaches more homes, and keep those homes with foxtel connected to it because Rupes needs that PayTV money. http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/553477/nbn_likely_share_hfc_foxtel/ quote:National Broadband Network services and pay TV service Foxtel are likely to co-exist on the hybrid fibre-coaxial (HFC) network currently owned by Telstra, according to NBN Co CEO Bill Morrow.
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# ? Aug 29, 2014 03:04 |
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quote:Federal Social Services Minister Kevin Andrews has cancelled his plans to open a conference of the controversial World Congress of Families. What a tweest. Edit: so the reason the last and final place they were going to have their forum was a secret was because it's the group behind the Rise Up Australia Party. Lid fucked around with this message at 03:18 on Aug 29, 2014 |
# ? Aug 29, 2014 03:15 |
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Today I read the words "Brangelina: Hollywed" and I am now dumber for this experience. Thanks media. Kevin Andrews: "Tolerance is a critical value in a western liberal democracy like Australia. It was for this reason that I intended to address the World Congress of Families meeting in Melbourne tomorrow," Mr Andrews said in the statement. "The calls for me not to attend demonstrate the intolerance of the Greens and the left - instead of arguing their case in the public arena they seek to shut down debate." See the Greens are being intolerant for wanting me to not support a hate group. Bigots, right to be bigoted, all that you know. hooman fucked around with this message at 03:26 on Aug 29, 2014 |
# ? Aug 29, 2014 03:24 |
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hooman posted:"The calls for me not to attend demonstrate the intolerance of the Greens and the left - instead of arguing their case in the public arena they seek to shut down debate." Literally arguing in public is not the public arena but arguing behind closed doors at the secret headquarters of rise up australia is the public arena. Gotcha.
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# ? Aug 29, 2014 03:35 |
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Nathan Tinkler takes the stand today (finally) I have heard stories from my brother that one of things that Nathan did once he got rich was that he would not pay small contractors that had done work for him. When they would ask to get paid, he would say nope take me to court and I will bury you in legal fees. This is for jobs only worth $5-25K. Nothing to him but enough to push a small business person into the red sometimes. This is from a guy that used to work as an electrician. I really hope that he does gaol time
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# ? Aug 29, 2014 03:36 |
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Nathan Tinkler is being Icac'd at the moment [img - Ron Paul its happening.gif]
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# ? Aug 29, 2014 03:36 |
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Tinkler has pride and believes he is smarter than he is. I am really hoping that Watson gets him to commit perjury. EDIT: Well that was a let down, it's already over Freudian Slip fucked around with this message at 04:04 on Aug 29, 2014 |
# ? Aug 29, 2014 03:47 |
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Freudian Slip posted:Nathan Tinkler takes the stand today (finally) I helped my dad work on a yacht in Newport a few years back while we were re-doing the deck. We cozied up to the boat yard so we could use their stuff and do most of the work ourselves. While we were there we saw, and heard plenty of stories of, the local yacht owners getting the bill and going 'nah, don't think so'. Was not uncommon for them to get the yacht and bugger off without paying the 5 or 10k bill. 'Eh, see me in court if ya want it'. It was a minority of the customers by all means, but just an astounding attitude to have.
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# ? Aug 29, 2014 04:16 |
Sanguine posted:I helped my dad work on a yacht in Newport a few years back while we were re-doing the deck. We cozied up to the boat yard so we could use their stuff and do most of the work ourselves. It does not astound me at all that the types of people who own yachts would hold such attitudes
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# ? Aug 29, 2014 04:20 |
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Sanguine posted:I helped my dad work on a yacht in Newport a few years back while we were re-doing the deck. We cozied up to the boat yard so we could use their stuff and do most of the work ourselves. Take them to court for the original amount, plus costs, plus interest and a punitive charge for wasting yours and everybody else's loving time in the process.
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# ? Aug 29, 2014 04:21 |
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Incidentally, I heard a story on some radio station--might have been Triple J--as I was driving through Sydney last week about a woman (a musician of some sort, or a graphic designer, or a writer, I don't quite remember) very roughly about 30 or so years old, who travels around the world in a yacht, by her self, for only thirty dollars a day. The presenter made a big deal about how this woman was living a life of adventure that all of us could live, but choose not to, due to some mix of complacency, fear and superficiality. A constant refrain was just how cheap it was for her to subsist while living the life of an explorer artist. It was never explained how she got the yacht in the first place. Orkin Mang fucked around with this message at 04:26 on Aug 29, 2014 |
# ? Aug 29, 2014 04:24 |
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Orkin Mang posted:Incidentally, I heard a story on some radio station--might have been Triple J--as I was driving through Sydney last week about a woman (a musician of some sort, or a graphic designer, or a writer, I don't quite remember) very roughly about 30 or so years old, who travels around the world in a yacht, by her self, for only thirty dollars a day. The presenter made a big deal about how this woman was living a life of adventure that all of us could live, but choose not to, due to some mix of complacency, fear and superficiality. A constant refrain was just how cheap it was for her to subsist while living the life of an explorer artist. The see ya in court for a 5 K bill is based on the fee that their solicitor would charge to defend it and basically due to consumer protections a decent wig could tie your business in knots for years. Our legal system is already out of the reach of 'normal' people. IANAL.
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# ? Aug 29, 2014 04:31 |
Ler posted:http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...826-108nxo.html Oh for fucks sake Tony. Just Already
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# ? Aug 29, 2014 04:35 |
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Les Affaires posted:Take them to court for the original amount, plus costs, plus interest and a punitive charge for wasting yours and everybody else's loving time in the process. That's sorta how it usually went - but by the time court proceedings finally started they'd usually show up with the cheque and a 'no hard feelings, it's just business' grin. Was just a waste of everyone's time, to the point that small bills weren't worth chasing. I have no idea how assault charges didn't follow.
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# ? Aug 29, 2014 04:45 |
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Les Affaires posted:Take them to court for the original amount, plus costs, plus interest and a punitive charge for wasting yours and everybody else's loving time in the process. This only works if you have the capital to go through court till you get a verdict.
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# ? Aug 29, 2014 04:59 |
Don't places like Slater and Gordon and Maurice Blackburn not charge fees unless you win?
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# ? Aug 29, 2014 05:01 |
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Sanguine posted:That's sorta how it usually went - but by the time court proceedings finally started they'd usually show up with the cheque and a 'no hard feelings, it's just business' grin. Was just a waste of everyone's time, to the point that small bills weren't worth chasing. I have no idea how assault charges didn't follow. Ehh, if you know ahead of time that there's a good chance the customer can be a dick, it's possible to get around just by improving the quoting process. Get a purchase order, ensure your quote contains terms and conditions that state what actions can be taken to recover the cash. At worst the customer will take their business elsewhere and you don't get the job but at least you're not exposing yourself to this kind of dick move.
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# ? Aug 29, 2014 05:02 |
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Alternatively have a one man sub waiting out in the water to torpedo their yachts as they leave and explain your up-front payment rescue policy.
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# ? Aug 29, 2014 05:04 |
Haters Objector posted:Don't places like Slater and Gordon and Maurice Blackburn not charge fees unless you win? Yes and, if you win, you get much less because those guys - especially SnG - take a big chunk to cover all the cases they don't win.
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# ? Aug 29, 2014 05:06 |
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Haters Objector posted:Don't places like Slater and Gordon and Maurice Blackburn not charge fees unless you win? IANAL but... The issue is having an agreement ahead of time. If you've got nothing on paper with someone and they owe you for work, its not guaranteed you'll be able to recover legal costs. If you get the estimate/quote on paper and signed for with a clause that they're liable for recovery costs, the lawyers are no drama as they can handle it and send the debtor the bill. Went to a talk by a lawyer at our web dev meet up just the other night, and put simply, the cardinal sin is to not have a written agreement. If you forget that, nothing else is certain.
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# ? Aug 29, 2014 05:12 |
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Genius.
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# ? Aug 29, 2014 05:12 |
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http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/29/tony-abbott-says-first-fleet-arrival-is-the-defining-moment-in-australian-historyquote:Tony Abbott has nominated the arrival of the first fleet, along with the launch of Rupert Murdoch’s Australian newspaper and the publication of The Lucky Country, as defining moments in the nation’s history.
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# ? Aug 29, 2014 05:15 |
quote:the publication of The Lucky Country Donald Horne would have ripped this clown to shreds
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# ? Aug 29, 2014 05:23 |
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How is Abbott going to sell his foreign worker policy to his racist, anti-immigration base?
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# ? Aug 29, 2014 05:37 |
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Amethyst posted:How is Abbott going to sell his foreign worker policy to his racist, anti-immigration base? How do you think Howard got immigration to record numbers?
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# ? Aug 29, 2014 05:40 |
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Amethyst posted:How is Abbott going to sell his foreign worker policy to his racist, anti-immigration base?
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# ? Aug 29, 2014 05:44 |
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Orkin Mang posted:Incidentally, I heard a story on some radio station--might have been Triple J--as I was driving through Sydney last week about a woman (a musician of some sort, or a graphic designer, or a writer, I don't quite remember) very roughly about 30 or so years old, who travels around the world in a yacht, by her self, for only thirty dollars a day. The presenter made a big deal about how this woman was living a life of adventure that all of us could live, but choose not to, due to some mix of complacency, fear and superficiality. A constant refrain was just how cheap it was for her to subsist while living the life of an explorer artist.
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# ? Aug 29, 2014 05:45 |
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Amethyst posted:http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/29/tony-abbott-says-first-fleet-arrival-is-the-defining-moment-in-australian-history That paragraph seems to really overstate the last two, the quote from later in the article is "I hope that the defining moments of 1964, for instance, might include the launch of the Australian newspaper as well as the publication of The Lucky Country.” Defining moments of 1964 is a bit different to defining moments in the nations history.
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# ? Aug 29, 2014 05:54 |
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T-1000 posted:It depends, a yacht doesn't necessarily cost all that much. Hers doesn't even have an engine, so it could well be fairly cheap. Maybe the same as a new car, definitely less than a house deposit. You can buy a decent one in poor condition and do it up - kind of like you used to be able to with houses. It's also worth mentioning that for every person that does this, there has to be tens of thousands more who live a normal life in order to sustain hers. Unless she is living purely from fish caught by hand, weaving seaweed into clothing, and repairing her yacht using a cement made of faeces, urine and human hair, the materials she needs to live on that yacht can only come from a functioning worldwide economy.
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# ? Aug 29, 2014 05:56 |
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Les Affaires posted:It's also worth mentioning that for every person that does this, there has to be tens of thousands more who live a normal life in order to sustain hers. Are you saying Waterworld won't come to be?
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# ? Aug 29, 2014 06:00 |
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quote:Rundle: Ricky Muir, a closet lefty unionist in revhead clothing It all suddenly makes sense. Also reading this totally made my day.
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# ? Aug 29, 2014 06:18 |
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Amethyst posted:
Please explain this one. Thankyou.
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# ? Aug 29, 2014 06:25 |