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Stultus Maximus posted:Nobody's going to watch every minute of footage. It should just exist in case there's an incident that needs to be reviewed. I remember back when people were watching LOST on a literal frame-by-frame basis every week.
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don't want to let this get lost in the copchat -- this seems like kind of a big deal?
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iostream.h posted:I know this is from way back, but I've been busy and am just now catching back up, but I just want to say that this is horseshit. 56K porn will always be the best. Talk about self abuse.
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Aug 29, 2014 01:11
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Pohl posted:56K porn will always be the best. Talk about self abuse. I'm old. That last line of pixels before the dirty bits started displaying was the worst.
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Aug 29, 2014 01:18
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Mr. Glass posted:don't want to let this get lost in the copchat -- this seems like kind of a big deal? It confirms the # of shots fired and the frequency between shots.
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Aug 29, 2014 01:25
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Vahakyla posted:I don't know dude. A lot of places actually do read their citizen complaints and if a pattern builds up against someone, discipline through suspension of pay after a verbal and written warning is pretty common. Firing comes after those. Do you have evidence or proof backing this up? Because I can link you tons of studies about the way police ignore complaints. But lets start with a "rural dept" NYPD: http://project.wnyc.org/ccrb/
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Aug 29, 2014 01:31
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Mr. Glass posted:don't want to let this get lost in the copchat -- this seems like kind of a big deal? Seems like it. There's 6 shots fired, then a pause, then 4 more. Brown was shot 6 times, so he was hit at least twice before the pause in the shooting. It looks like the first group of 6 shots fired were fired at Brown as he was running away/standing still.
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Aug 29, 2014 01:33
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Presumably the PD also knows how many shots were fired due to casings on the ground and/or the number of rounds left in Wilson's magazine -- not sure we'll ever see that information though.
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Aug 29, 2014 01:39
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Trabisnikof posted:Do you have evidence or proof backing this up? Because I can link you tons of studies about the way police ignore complaints. I did not mention NYPD nor did I say that every police department does it. Nor did I say that only rural department might be lovely. How the gently caress do I prove that ignoring does not happen? I am not even saying that. A lot of places do read and act on the complaints. Too many do not. poo poo sucks. Vahakyla fucked around with this message at 01:46 on Aug 29, 2014 |
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Aug 29, 2014 01:42
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Mr. Glass posted:don't want to let this get lost in the copchat -- this seems like kind of a big deal? Mr. Glass posted:Presumably the PD also knows how many shots were fired due to casings on the ground and/or the number of rounds left in Wilson's magazine -- not sure we'll ever see that information though. This is huge, if the verification holds up. Just from the audio recordings, with a grouping of six shots then four or five more, we now know with certainty that it was an execution. Brown was hit at least once, then a long pause, and the officer then finished him off. By the police's own narrative, the officer fired at Michael Brown as he was running away, and we now know through math that he had to have been hit as he fled. The idea that he then turned on the spot and charged at the officer, after being shot one or more times, is patently absurd and anyone still advocating for that line of thinking is either an idiot or a racist. The audio serves as further confirmation of the multiple eyewitnesses: Michael Brown was killed on the ground as he attempted to surrender by an officer using monstrously excessive force against no credible threat.
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Aug 29, 2014 01:54
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Pohl posted:I know what he was saying. He was implying that police are just poor misunderstood folks that only do wrong because they don't have the resources in place they need. You know, we don't have to pick between them or those plucky homeless guys, we can provide adequate care and aid to everyone! No, he's saying they have a hosed up culture that sweeps psych issues under the rug because it isn't "hardcore" and they manifest as the particularly violent brand of power abuse that cop culture encourages. It's like how abused kids are more likely to abuse their own kids except nobody chooses to be an abused kid. It's not as charitable as you are making it out to be.
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FAUXTON posted:No, he's saying they have a hosed up culture that sweeps psych issues under the rug because it isn't "hardcore" and they manifest as the particularly violent brand of power abuse that cop culture encourages. It's like how abused kids are more likely to abuse their own kids except nobody chooses to be an abused kid. It's not as charitable as you are making it out to be. And once again, cops have really great benefits, while homeless people don't. Comparing them was not only stupid, it showed a complete lack of understanding for people that don't have benefits and healthcare. Pohl fucked around with this message at 02:21 on Aug 29, 2014 |
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Vahakyla posted:How the gently caress do I prove that ignoring does not happen? Did you even read the link? You can't, because you're wrong. He's saying that the NYPD is doing exactly what you think only some podunk rural PD would do: ignore poo poo and hire idiot assholes.
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Pohl posted:And once again, cops have really great benefits, while homeless people don't. Comparing them was not only stupid, it showed a complete lack of understanding for people that don't have benefits and healthcare. They have really great benefits and a really hosed up clique with a shitton of peer pressure. You can lead a cop to his insurance card but you can't convince him to go talk to someone about his violent ideations when all of his bros brag about shoving nightsticks up people's asses during a traffic stop and think he's a traitor when he doesn't laugh.
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Aug 29, 2014 02:43
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Vahakyla posted:A lot of places do read and act on the complaints. Provide a citation for this unsupported claim.
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Aug 29, 2014 03:07
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Does anyone know any goods sources about advances on this story? CNN just brings up the newest stuff showing the cops are lying then does their bullshit "but who knows, the cops are probably right."
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Aug 29, 2014 03:14
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One thing that surprised me is that all the upvoted comments on BBC articles about this issue are pro-police. Does the UK have as many pro-police people as the US does? Or are they all Americans commenting?
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Aug 29, 2014 03:37
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Samurai Sanders posted:One thing that surprised me is that all the upvoted comments on BBC articles about this issue are pro-police. Does the UK have as many pro-police people as the US does? Or are they all Americans commenting?
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Rent-A-Cop posted:I dunno about pro-police, but the UK has plenty of racist shitbags.
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Aug 29, 2014 03:39
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Rent-A-Cop posted:I dunno about pro-police, but the UK has plenty of racist shitbags. They do tend to shoot fewer people, though.
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Samurai Sanders posted:One thing that surprised me is that all the upvoted comments on BBC articles about this issue are pro-police. Does the UK have as many pro-police people as the US does? Or are they all Americans commenting?
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:This is huge, if the verification holds up. Just from the audio recordings, with a grouping of six shots then four or five more, we now know with certainty that it was an execution. Brown was hit at least once, then a long pause, and the officer then finished him off. Or he was shot twice and realized the policeman was trying to kill him and tried to charge the would-be murderer.
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Aug 29, 2014 04:44
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Tender Bender posted:Or he was shot twice and realized the policeman was trying to kill him and tried to charge the would-be murderer. Because getting shot twice just pisses people off.
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FAUXTON posted:Because getting shot twice just pisses people off. Something something 6'4 something something PCP, all Negros are zombies.
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Has this been discussed in this thread yet? My rabid bigot co-worker just got wind of this and he's crowing like a loving Rebel Yell over it. So many articles about this on conservative (mostly) sites already: http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/bombshell-ferguson-mike-brown-murder-gang-member-thug/ http://www.ironicsurrealism.com/2014/08/19/report-mike-brown-had-juvenile-arrest-record-involving-2nd-degree-murder/ The links at the bottom of this article... I don't even... quote:Report: Mike Brown Allegedly Had Juvenile Arrest Record Involving 2nd Degree Murder UPDATES: FOIA Request Filed,Denied,Challenged, Racist Precedent (?), Hearing 8/26/14
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Dr. Faustus posted:Has this been discussed in this thread yet? My rabid bigot co-worker just got wind of this and he's crowing like a loving Rebel Yell over it. Lmao that poo poo stain has been promising to blow the top off this story any minute now!!! for over a week.
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pacerhimself posted:Lmao that poo poo stain has been promising to blow the top off this story any minute now!!! for over a week. Ok gotcha, sorry, I didn't mean to stumble in beating a dead horse.
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Aug 29, 2014 05:31
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Dr. Faustus posted:Ok gotcha, sorry, I didn't mean to stumble in beating a dead horse. No I'm glad you posted it. The tweets go back to the 18th and the entire time he's this close to having proof.
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Dr. Faustus posted:Has this been discussed in this thread yet? My rabid bigot co-worker just got wind of this and he's crowing like a loving Rebel Yell over it. Considering that MO law allows even juveniles under 12 to be tried as adults if they are charged with 2nd degree murder, this is a complete fabrication.
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pacerhimself posted:Lmao that poo poo stain has been promising to blow the top off this story any minute now!!! for over a week. Reminds me of the tape that was promised to arrive in 2008 that would sink Obama.
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CitizenKain posted:Reminds me of the tape that was promised to arrive in 2008 that would sink Obama. Ah, the good ol' "Michelle Obama Whitey Tape" story. I think they tried to salvage that by saying "AHA! Look how nervous you all were that it might exist! That means you think it could exist and isn't that really just as bad?" God I miss the 2008 election season so much. It's never gonna be that good again. 
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Aug 29, 2014 05:58
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CitizenKain posted:Reminds me of the tape that was promised to arrive in 2008 that would sink Obama. This came up again in 2012 too! Like a week after the 47% Romney video became a thing suddenly they were going to drop footage of Obama that was going to completely destroy him. Whelp.
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That's some deus ex machina poo poo right there. Guy started the video like, the minute prior to Brown getting murdered by Wilson. On a streaming site which saves the loving video to a server. So it's completely validated every which way - rot in piss Wilson. Honestly, props on that guy for swallowing his pride about what was going on in the video and reporting this vital info.
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Aug 29, 2014 06:28
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Evil_Greven posted:Guy started the video like, the minute prior to Brown getting murdered by Wilson. Wait...wouldn't that have caught the alleged first shot then? While they were wrestling through the window? Why is that not on the recording?
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beatlegs posted:Wait...wouldn't that have caught the alleged first shot then? While they were wrestling through the window? Why is that not on the recording? However, if the gun discharged while in the SUV, a lot of the sound may have been absorbed by the interior of the vehicle. He only had a window open, so the story goes.
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Republicans posted:God I miss the 2008 election season so much. It's never gonna be that good again. thats actually a near-direct quote from a work acquaintance in response to my saying something about the next election. The poo poo is just getting started.
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iostream.h posted:Nah man, we still got godamn Hillary, a messikin, a queer or one uh them tranny things and a evilusunist Jesus hater to get elected before we can get things back to normal. Hillary might be fun and so was the 2012 primary season but man, everything about 2008 was pure magic.
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Republicans posted:Hillary might be fun and so was the 2012 primary season but man, everything about 2008 was pure magic. Really hope the Hillary is 44/Puma nutters come back again. They've spent the last six years demented with rage that Obama won. The 2012 campaign was hilarious with their attempts at revenge.
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