Medium + Large Format Thread Part 2! Because large format takes a long time.

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OjaiYoda: Nov 13, 2009

Genderfluid posted:

what are your plans for it?

well, these are all from a US tour I just did with my friends band. I went on tour with them last summer and the summer before that. Two summers ago I shot a comparable amount, and spent two semesters printing in the lab around 120 prints. I trimmed the fat, and assembled a book that I am going to self publish hopefully this winter. Its taking me so long to get anything done because I am super busy/broke in dental hygiene school right now. After that first tour book is published I am going back to do a collaborative project for last summers images with my other photographer friend who was also on tour with us last summer and this summer. THEN ill get around to doing the same thing for these. In the meantime ill be developing and scanning all of these over the next few weeks at the lab where I work.

I wish I had a minilab at my disposal. I looked on craigslist, but there is nothing in the sf bay area

edit*
In regards to the last pages discussion on Mamiya 6/7 all the MF that I shot this summer, last summer and the summer before was with the 6. The coolest camera in the world. so light, so portable, so light meter. A major downside is you can pick them up all day for body and kit lens for 1200, but then must spend 600 for the cooler of the only three available lenses.

OjaiYoda fucked around with this message at 22:30 on Aug 27, 2014

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# ? May 28, 2024 21:52

Wild EEPROM: Jul 29, 2011; oh, my, god. Becky, look at her bitrate.

Was having some minor issues earlier, was hoping someone could help me figure out why.

Pentax 6x7
TTL prism
55mm SMC
No problem with the battery
Back set to 120, screw set to 120.

Before this: Was shooting some Ilford Delta 400, pretty sure I shot more than 10 exposures, but it kept winding like I hadn't; winding pressure was the same as 1-10 exposures, not like after 10 exposures when you can just keep winding without cocking the shutter. After what seems like definitely more than 10 exposures, winding pressure was the same as after 10 exposures when you're just winding the paper. No problems there afterwards.

Today: Loaded up a roll of Ektar 100. Shot a bunch, probably more than 10, but the film counter was still on 7. Shot a bunch more, absolutely more than 10 more, just to get it to the end of the roll. Shutter is definitely firing, winding is cocking it, and there is the usual amount of pressure. Still wouldn't advance the film counter. Ended up making a ghetto dark bag out of some garbage bags and a sweater, opened up the back and then wound all the film in.

What I'm wondering is, why would this happen, how can I prevent this from happening again, and whether anyone has encountered this before.

Edit 1: I just noticed, the roller on the right side (film counter side), it only turns counterclockwise about 3/4 of a turn before it stops. It will turn clockwise as much as I want though. The roller on the left side (shutter speed dial side) will turn in both directions no problems.
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Edit 2: It seems like the shutter really isn't firing off as often as I thought. So far I've had 4 processed rolls (40 exposures), and a total of 5 unexposed (totally blank) and 1 partially exposed (that may have been me accidentally exposing it when taking it out).

Wild EEPROM fucked around with this message at 08:43 on Aug 28, 2014

# ? Aug 28, 2014 03:29

8th-snype: Aug 28, 2005; My office is in the front room of a run-down 12 megapixel sensor but the rent suits me and the landlord doesn't ask many questions.

Dorkroom Short Fiction Champion 2012; Young Orc

Sounds like CLA time for your P67.

# ? Aug 28, 2014 04:44

Wild EEPROM: Jul 29, 2011; oh, my, god. Becky, look at her bitrate.

Anyone good who does this? Preferably in Canada

Also it seems like the shutter isn't 100%; it's not fired several times when it should have, it looks like.

# ? Aug 28, 2014 08:43

ZippySLC: Jun 3, 2002; ~what is art, baby dont post, dont post, no more~

no seriously don't post

He's not in Canada, but Eric Hendrickson is pretty much THE name in Pentax CLAs.

# ? Aug 28, 2014 12:32

Shrieking Muppet: Jul 16, 2006

Wild EEPROM posted:

Edit 1: I just noticed, the roller on the right side (film counter side), it only turns counterclockwise about 3/4 of a turn before it stops. It will turn clockwise as much as I want though. The roller on the left side (shutter speed dial side) will turn in both directions no problems.
These:

Edit 2: It seems like the shutter really isn't firing off as often as I thought. So far I've had 4 processed rolls (40 exposures), and a total of 5 unexposed (totally blank) and 1 partially exposed (that may have been me accidentally exposing it when taking it out).

I think your first part is normal since the film is just pulled by the right roller. Regarding the shutter it might be the highest shutter speed. I had a similar problem where a lot of frames were blank, I jotted down my shutter speeds for a roll one day and found that 1/1000 and 1/500 had failed, trip to the local shop confirmed it, still waiting to hear if he can fix mine.

# ? Aug 28, 2014 12:40

Sludge Tank: Jul 31, 2007; by Azathoth

Developed my first batch of 8x10's today. I have a few more still drying that look a lot more promising than the first batch (did 2 tanks of 3 sheets)

I am using the CatLabs CL81 in a 2500 tank. Loading the film into this thing is pretty tricky. I am loading it emulsion side inwards (same as mod54) but I'm not sure if this is the right way to go about that. Here you can see the scratching and uneven development mostly top two corners (bottom is vignetted because I used too much rise. This was literally the first photo I took with the camera). This is a straight scan, no adjustments. Using foma200 R09 1:50 , 10 mins.

I also seem to remember reading somewhere that foma is really easy to scratch or something? Either way as I said loading the stuff into the CL81 is really hard and it seems like it would be nearly impossible to load it in without having the edges dragging along the inside of the film guides.

Any ideas on how to get away from scratching the film, otherwise I'm just going to have to compose for a crop....

I have no facilities to set up a dark room so tray development is more or less out of the question for the moment. Even so I've been having a lot of fun playing with the 8x10.

First 8x10 scan (for SA) by Alex Gard, on Flickr

e: oh yeah and jesus christ using this 2500 tank for inversion chews through a shitload of chemicals. 2850mL to cover the sheets. I need to get the Jobo figured out to slow down my chem consumption...

# ? Aug 28, 2014 14:32

deaders: Jun 14, 2002; Someone felt sorry enough for me to change my custom title.

Shame about the scratches and spots but that looks really good.

# ? Aug 28, 2014 16:49

MrBlandAverage: Jul 2, 2003; GNNAAAARRRR

Sludge Tank posted:

Developed my first batch of 8x10's today. I have a few more still drying that look a lot more promising than the first batch (did 2 tanks of 3 sheets)

I am using the CatLabs CL81 in a 2500 tank. Loading the film into this thing is pretty tricky. I am loading it emulsion side inwards (same as mod54) but I'm not sure if this is the right way to go about that. Here you can see the scratching and uneven development mostly top two corners (bottom is vignetted because I used too much rise. This was literally the first photo I took with the camera). This is a straight scan, no adjustments. Using foma200 R09 1:50 , 10 mins.

I also seem to remember reading somewhere that foma is really easy to scratch or something? Either way as I said loading the stuff into the CL81 is really hard and it seems like it would be nearly impossible to load it in without having the edges dragging along the inside of the film guides.

Any ideas on how to get away from scratching the film, otherwise I'm just going to have to compose for a crop....

I have no facilities to set up a dark room so tray development is more or less out of the question for the moment. Even so I've been having a lot of fun playing with the 8x10.

First 8x10 scan (for SA) by Alex Gard, on Flickr

e: oh yeah and jesus christ using this 2500 tank for inversion chews through a shitload of chemicals. 2850mL to cover the sheets. I need to get the Jobo figured out to slow down my chem consumption...

This honestly looks way better than any of the 4x5 scans you've posted. I think edge effects like that are pretty normal for reel development of sheets, though you should try a less vigorous agitation scheme to see if it helps.

The long-term solution is a Jobo 3005 drum :getin:

For my 4x5 I went from using a MOD54 to using Jobo 2509 reels in a 2563 tank to using a Jobo 3010. Since I got the 3010 my negatives have never been anything less than perfect.

# ? Aug 28, 2014 17:10

big scary monsters: Sep 2, 2011; -~Ｓｋｕｌｌｗａｖｅ~-

MrBlandAverage posted:

The long-term solution is a Jobo 3005 drum For my 4x5 I went from using a MOD54 to using Jobo 2509 reels in a 2563 tank to using a Jobo 3010. Since I got the 3010 my negatives have never been anything less than perfect.

Holy poo poo I thought the MOD54 was kinda pricey for what it was but I just looked up the 3010 and :stare:

. Sometimes I think I'm not in the right income bracket to shoot LF.

# ? Aug 28, 2014 18:42

MrBlandAverage: Jul 2, 2003; GNNAAAARRRR

big scary monsters posted:

Holy poo poo I thought the MOD54 was kinda pricey for what it was but I just looked up the 3010 and . Sometimes I think I'm not in the right income bracket to shoot LF.

You can get deals if you're patient. I got my Jobo CPP-2 for $250 because the seller thought the heating element was broken (just needed the thermal protection switch reset) and I got my Jobo 3010 for $200 because the bottom panel was loose (it's cosmetic and was easily epoxied).

# ? Aug 28, 2014 18:45

eggsovereasy: May 6, 2011

Speaking of large format processing...

I had some problems with streaks with the mod54, but I stopped using the two inside most slots and haven't had a problem since. It sucks only doing 4 sheets a time, but I'd rather they not get hosed up.

I also have a 8x10 unicolor print drum and rotary base (like described here: http://www.largeformatphotography.info/unicolor/), but the drum leaks by the lid and I don't really know how to fix it, any suggestions?

# ? Aug 28, 2014 21:08

Wild EEPROM: Jul 29, 2011; oh, my, god. Becky, look at her bitrate.

Ezekiel_980 posted:

I think your first part is normal since the film is just pulled by the right roller. Regarding the shutter it might be the highest shutter speed. I had a similar problem where a lot of frames were blank, I jotted down my shutter speeds for a roll one day and found that 1/1000 and 1/500 had failed, trip to the local shop confirmed it, still waiting to hear if he can fix mine.

Even though the film is just pulled by the right side winding lever, shouldn't the right side roller roll freely to let the film roll smoothly? Right now the film would basically drag on that roller.

The shutter speed idea, that might be it. I bought the camera with the flash, and knowing that the flash sync is 1/30, and the shots that I missed may have used 1/15 or 1/30 shutter speed, I popped off the shutter speed dial and checked out the contacts. Not horrible, but not shiny. Polished them up with a sharpened popsicle stick, will see how the test roll goes.

How did the local store confirm it?

# ? Aug 29, 2014 00:29

Sludge Tank: Jul 31, 2007; by Azathoth

And another. Cropped out the scratches because I was tearing my hair out trying to heal them. Pretty pleased with it although you can see the development weirdness in the sky. I really dig the contrast of this development. No post done to this.

Goop goes in brown, comes out bright green :getin:

Meander, Tasmania by Alex Gard, on Flickr

Sludge Tank fucked around with this message at 02:08 on Aug 29, 2014

# ? Aug 29, 2014 01:42

Shrieking Muppet: Jul 16, 2006