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Lumpy the Cook
Feb 4, 2011

Drippy-goo-yay, mother-gunker!
I'm going to be completely serious for a moment: the fact that all these people, over all these sites, have actually turned the very concept of being nice and inclusive into a tool to insult and dehumanize people who have different beliefs than them is insanely, brutally cool.

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GentlemanBrofro
Mar 9, 2011

by Lowtax

Falsum posted:

lol

Although it's not entirely stupid; fun is subjective so you ideally should be able to explain why it's fun.

Immersion needs to burn though.

Real Talk: Guy did a poo poo job explaining what the hell he was getting at tho, which sucks because it's an excellent point. Eventually developers will have to challenge the consumer with critical thinking. Eventually the video game medium will need a radical movement or drastic shift that changes our perspective on games. It has been on that verge for a while with games like Spec Ops and The Walking Dead showing just how much of an impact a game can leave when you challenge the audience. Even that small scene in Modern Warfare with the nuclear strike left a memorable imprint in the minds of its players.

At this point, it should have been the developers and the industry that challenged gamers (ugh), not the other way around.

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

THE LIAR

Spiky Ooze posted:

Man. They're acting such crowing bigshots. This is after everyone just found out these guys pass around one one fat crazy girlfriend for their entire profession.

It's like a man with a dozen swords in his back going "HAHA I'VE GOT YOU RIGHT WHERE I WANT YOU" as he coughs up a lung. It's already gone from "angering" to "funny" and is now ticking steadily towards "sad".

The Taint Reaper posted:

ahaha holy poo poo so the dude who was married and had sex with Zo, the wife was actually a keeper and looks like his rear end is gonna be out of a shitload of dollars from a divorce.

Please tell me you have a source for the bolded part.

madeupfred
Oct 10, 2011

by FactsAreUseless
If you are a girl and you play video games, I am going to harass you both sexually and metasexually*.

*The word metasexual is based upon the premise that the physical body, the physical world, and the physical act of sex are illusions. This word refers to the hidden fields of sexuality that are above and beyond the physicality of sexual nature and activity. The coming together and co-mingling of two energetic magnetic bodies for the purpose of metasexual activity will inherently be perceived in the physical world only as a physical act or random spontaneous movements, increased breathing, random vocalization and intonation. However, the two energetic fields that involved in the experience of this connection will perceive it as something spiritual, emotional, physical, and utterly life changing. These individuals will no longer be satisfied with sex purely on a physical level, as their consciousness is transformed and awakened to something higher and deeper both within themselves and the core of humanity. These individuals will make better choices concerning potential partners, and will change their behaviors effortlessly to ones that are more conducive to peaceful and loving relationships.

porkchop_express
May 27, 2004

Sapient Afro posted:

I'm rooting for whoever is on the side of making all games and gamers dead

taco bell llc?

Fluo
May 25, 2007

TFYC has wrote a peace treaty. I think it may be because of the death threats but I don't know.
http://www.thefineyoungcapitalists.com/PeaceTreaty

Biggie Shorty
Oct 8, 2008
awww. I don't want a married couple to break up over this if they have kids.

also can someone explain the kamiya tweet?

Hometown Slime Queen
Oct 26, 2004

the GOAT

Biggie Shorty posted:

awww. I don't want a married couple to break up over this if they have kids.

also can someone explain the kamiya tweet?

Nah it's okay, the wife deserves better than a husband who will cheat on her with someone like that

porkchop_express
May 27, 2004

madeupfred posted:

If you are a girl and you play video games, I am going to harass you both sexually and metasexually*.

*The word metasexual is based upon the premise that the physical body, the physical world, and the physical act of sex are illusions. This word refers to the hidden fields of sexuality that are above and beyond the physicality of sexual nature and activity. The coming together and co-mingling of two energetic magnetic bodies for the purpose of metasexual activity will inherently be perceived in the physical world only as a physical act or random spontaneous movements, increased breathing, random vocalization and intonation. However, the two energetic fields that involved in the experience of this connection will perceive it as something spiritual, emotional, physical, and utterly life changing. These individuals will no longer be satisfied with sex purely on a physical level, as their consciousness is transformed and awakened to something higher and deeper both within themselves and the core of humanity. These individuals will make better choices concerning potential partners, and will change their behaviors effortlessly to ones that are more conducive to peaceful and loving relationships.

same

Jombo
Feb 20, 2009

Fluo posted:

TFYC has wrote a peace treaty. I think it may be because of the death threats but I don't know.
http://www.thefineyoungcapitalists.com/PeaceTreaty

We're not going to just shoot the sons-of-bitches, we're going to rip out their living Goddamned guts and use them to grease the treads of our tanks. We're going to murder those lousy gamer/SJW cock suckers by the bushel-loving-basket. War is a bloody, killing business. You've got to spill their blood, or they will spill yours. Rip them up the belly. Shoot them in the guts. When shells are hitting all around you and you wipe the dirt off your face and realize that instead of dirt it's the blood and guts of what once was your best friend beside you, you'll know what to do!

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

Gravefront posted:

Stop browsing /v/, it's not good for you

/v/ is fine. It's like The Imp Zone in how harmless it is.

new phone who dis
May 24, 2007

by VideoGames
Morbid Hound

GentlemanBrofro posted:

Real Talk: Guy did a poo poo job explaining what the hell he was getting at tho, which sucks because it's an excellent point. Eventually developers will have to challenge the consumer with critical thinking. Eventually the video game medium will need a radical movement or drastic shift that changes our perspective on games. It has been on that verge for a while with games like Spec Ops and The Walking Dead showing just how much of an impact a game can leave when you challenge the audience. Even that small scene in Modern Warfare with the nuclear strike left a memorable imprint in the minds of its players.

At this point, it should have been the developers and the industry that challenged gamers (ugh), not the other way around.

Games don't have to do this in general, though. What attracts people to games differs greatly like pretty much any other media and the people going on and on about how we should be forcing media to act a certain way are just like any other kind of media-consuming snobs who want everyone to be forced to consume what they prefer the most.

Fluo
May 25, 2007

Xelkelvos posted:

/v/ is fine. It's like The Imp Zone in how harmless it is.

Has The Imp Zone been talking about this or are they not allowed to since theres already a GBS thread?

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

THE LIAR

Fluo posted:

TFYC has wrote a peace treaty. I think it may be because of the death threats but I don't know.
http://www.thefineyoungcapitalists.com/PeaceTreaty

Dude doesn't want to be part of an internet war. He wants to make a video game. And he knows he's pretty bad at talking, so he doesn't wanna be in a position to do some foot-in-mouth (fist-in-fridge) poo poo again.

It's pretty scummy of Zoe to not kick them some money after her bullshit cost them 10k, though.

Mattjpwns
Dec 14, 2006

In joyful strains then let us sing
ADVANCE AUSTRALIA FUCKED

VJeff posted:

Dude doesn't want to be part of an internet war. He wants to make a video game. And he knows he's pretty bad at talking, so he doesn't wanna be in a position to do some foot-in-mouth (fist-in-fridge) poo poo again.

It's pretty scummy of Zoe to not kick them some money after her bullshit cost them 10k, though.

Given the nature of a significant portion of their support base, if Zoe kicked them money and they accepted it, there would be MASSIVE INTERNET EXPLOSIONS.

Which is good for this thread, I guess, but not so good for him. :P

porkchop_express
May 27, 2004
zoe earns her money fair and square though

The Taint Reaper
Sep 4, 2012

by Shine

Fluo posted:

Has The Imp Zone been talking about this or are they not allowed to since theres already a GBS thread?

Impzone does at it pleases, Imp Zone don't care, Imp Zone gonna drink outta the milk carton in the fridge and not give a poo poo.

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




Fluo posted:

Has The Imp Zone been talking about this or are they not allowed to since theres already a GBS thread?

the thread there got gassed after a few hours.

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

THE LIAR

Mattjpwns posted:

Given the nature of a significant portion of their support base, if Zoe kicked them money and they accepted it, there would be MASSIVE INTERNET EXPLOSIONS.

Which is good for this thread, I guess, but not so good for him. :P

/v/ pretty much collectively came to the conclusion a couple days ago that if Zoe donated, they wouldn't care.

It's kinda weird. /v/ as a whole is more or less totally past Zoe and is completely zeroed in on the journos. They really wanna go after them, as opposed to this thread, which is focusing more on Zoe 'cause that's where the :lol: is.

Sudden Loud Noise
Feb 18, 2007

Guys, I just heard the news. 0.00001% of the people who play video games said mean things on the internet and now companies are no longer going to make video games for 20-something white males.

RIP rear end Creed Bro.

GentlemanBrofro
Mar 9, 2011

by Lowtax

natetimm posted:

Games don't have to do this in general, though. What attracts people to games differs greatly like pretty much any other media and the people going on and on about how we should be forcing media to act a certain way are just like any other kind of media-consuming snobs who want everyone to be forced to consume what they prefer the most.

True, true. At least we have those games, at least developers acknowledge the potential video games have as a medium. I just worry that the games which require critical thinking are lost on numerous consumers and in that regard, make it more difficult for those types of games to be produced.

Edit:

Fluo posted:

TFYC has wrote a peace treaty. I think it may be because of the death threats but I don't know.
http://www.thefineyoungcapitalists.com/PeaceTreaty

Is there any truth to these accusations of transphobia? TYFC has seemed generally cool so far.

GentlemanBrofro fucked around with this message at 06:47 on Aug 29, 2014

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

GBS Pledge Week

porkchop_express posted:

zoe earns her money fair and square though
and then gives it all away to disadvantaged women and orphans and kitten shelters

Fluo
May 25, 2007

natetimm posted:

Games don't have to do this in general, though. What attracts people to games differs greatly like pretty much any other media and the people going on and on about how we should be forcing media to act a certain way are just like any other kind of media-consuming snobs who want everyone to be forced to consume what they prefer the most.

Pretty much. It's not even media, I've had people get mad as hell at me in the past because I don't like cheese. But sticking with the other media-consuming snobs, imagine the reaction from trying to censor Quentin Tarantino or something.

falcon2424
May 2, 2005

GentlemanBrofro posted:

True, true. At least we have those games, at least developers acknowledge the potential video games have as a medium. I just worry that the games which require critical thinking are lost on numerous consumers and in that regard, make it more difficult for those types of games to be produced.

I don't get it. How does any of this relate to deep philosophy in video games?

All the SJW-arguments are about pretty surface level stuff. People might agree or disagree. But nothing's all that mind-bendingly complex about it.

Fluo
May 25, 2007

GentlemanBrofro posted:

Is there any truth to these accusations of transphobia? TYFC has seemed generally cool so far.

No, they were lies spread by Zoe & co to try and stop them getting donations (and turn hivemind against TFYC). They also got the indiegogo taken down and ddoss'd their site near the start of this whole thing.

Fluo fucked around with this message at 07:08 on Aug 29, 2014

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

THE LIAR

GentlemanBrofro posted:

Is there any truth to these accusations of transphobia? TYFC has seemed generally cool so far.

There was never a single whit of truth to them. Zoe purposely misrepresented their policies long past the point of good faith so she could call the organization transphobic and exploitative and sic her twitter army on it. And then when TFYC tried to tell their side of the story, they were shut out by every gaming journo site.

She basically tried to get it shut down so it wouldn't steal any thunder from Rebel Game Jam.

EA Sports
Feb 10, 2007

by Azathoth
it was very sith lord like

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




VJeff posted:


She basically tried to get it shut down so it wouldn't steal any thunder from her private bank account known as rebel game jam


fixed

Rad Tad
Jul 2, 2014

everyone wear nazi regalia and leigh alexander will be back on board

Mappo
Apr 27, 2009
Basically TFYC has a trans policy where a MtF transwoman has to have publicly come out as trans before a curtain date (they don't have to have surgery, just have stated that they are MtF). This apparently is done by every major trans organization to keep out dudes who just want to get the prize money by pretending to be trans. Zoe took this as transphobic and wouldn't stop screaming.

Don Mega
Nov 26, 2005
p sure i asked if this was over on page 40ish and you guys said ya

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

THE LIAR

good fix, good fix *nods respectively*


Rad Tad posted:

everyone wear nazi regalia and leigh alexander will be back on board

I am thunderstruck that she has sobered up long enough to offer an opinion on this.

Top Bunk Wanker
Jan 31, 2005

Top Trump Anger

Lumpy the Cook posted:

I'm going to be completely serious for a moment: the fact that all these people, over all these sites, have actually turned the very concept of being nice and inclusive into a tool to insult and dehumanize people who have different beliefs than them is insanely, brutally cool.

It's really cool to me that they're capable of taking a position like "I think everybody should be equal and have good things for free" and be so offputting and abrasive that an outside observer can look at them and think "Actually, I disagree with you."

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk










it makes you think.

Fur20
Nov 14, 2007

すご▞い!
君は働か░い
フ▙▓ズなんだね!

Fluo posted:

Has The Imp Zone been talking about this or are they not allowed to since theres already a GBS thread?

afaik Imp Zone is more concerned about people who changed their name to a Final Fantasy character and who's beating it to furry porn identifying themselves with secret furry art avs, and quite frankly those are both about as interesting as this whole dealie

turnways
Jun 22, 2004

why can't one of these guys just drop an n-bomb and get it out of their system

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









Lumpy the Cook posted:

I'm going to be completely serious for a moment: the fact that all these people, over all these sites, have actually turned the very concept of being nice and inclusive into a tool to insult and dehumanize people who have different beliefs than them is insanely, brutally cool.

it's like being held down by a puffily overweight theatre studies major while he screams HAVE MORE loving EMPATHY YOU loving MONSTROUS oval office in your spittle-flecked face

porkchop_express
May 27, 2004

Don Mega posted:

p sure i asked if this was over on page 40ish and you guys said ya

i will not be shut down by the hetero cis rape scum

Rad Tad
Jul 2, 2014

why are people "reclaiming" anime avatars I don't get it

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Sudden Loud Noise
Feb 18, 2007

Rad Tad posted:

everyone wear nazi regalia and leigh alexander will be back on board

I bet she and Rami Ismail get along really great.

The list of indie dev interests spans a wide range: social justice, narrative driven experiences light on gameplay, nazi imagery, 8-bit graphics...

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