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Job Truniht posted:It confirms the # of shots fired and the frequency between shots. That gap in the shooting made my hackles rise. That sure as hell sounds like 'oh poo poo he isn't dead'. It's finishing someone off. This is going to be -ugly- at the grand jury.
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Can anyone give me a quick synopsis of how the bringing of charges works in this case? Someone was telling me that the state prosecutor being racists doesn't matter because anyone is able to bring charges forward against Wilson.
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Aug 29, 2014 13:07
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Wadjamaloo posted:Can anyone give me a quick synopsis of how the bringing of charges works in this case? Someone was telling me that the state prosecutor being racists doesn't matter because anyone is able to bring charges forward against Wilson. You need jurisdiction to charge people.
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Aug 29, 2014 13:13
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Vahakyla posted:You need jurisdiction to charge people.
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Aug 29, 2014 13:32
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Tenzarin posted:University of Houston Downtime has hobos come beg for change in the parking lot. I bet they really lean on them hobos to keep those kids in school. It's also like a block from the county jail, can't imagine that helps things either.
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Aug 29, 2014 15:01
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Evil_Greven posted:That's some deus ex machina poo poo right there. It is not important, but I am curious as what was going on in the video (other than the gunshots). Why did he swallow his pride?
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Aug 29, 2014 15:50
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Wiggles Von Huggins posted:It is not important, but I am curious as what was going on in the video (other than the gunshots). Why did he swallow his pride? It seems like sexy time chat or maybe all our heads are in the gutter.
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Aug 29, 2014 15:53
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Wiggles Von Huggins posted:It is not important, but I am curious as what was going on in the video (other than the gunshots). Why did he swallow his pride? He was recording (likely without permission) a sexy Skype session.
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Aug 29, 2014 16:04
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Here's an article I didn't see previously regarding the lawsuits against Ferguson law enforcement for civil rights violations: http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/08/28/us-usa-missouri-shooting-idUSKBN0GS2KD20140828quote:The suit, filed in U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Missouri, says law enforcement met a broad public outcry over the Aug. 9 killing of 18-year-old Michael Brown with "militaristic displays of force and weaponry," (and) engaged U.S. citizens "as if they were war combatants."
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Aug 29, 2014 16:05
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Evil_Greven posted:That's some deus ex machina poo poo right there. What was going on that he had to swallow his pride?
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Aug 29, 2014 16:06
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Is this surprising? What do you do when something you know is so heinously wrong is believed to be right by a large amount of people who control an enormous amount of political, social and financial power?
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Aug 29, 2014 16:07
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tbp posted:What was going on that he had to swallow his pride? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rARBZyGJSSs Just listen.
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Aug 29, 2014 16:08
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Liquid Communism posted:That gap in the shooting made my hackles rise. That sure as hell sounds like 'oh poo poo he isn't dead'. It's finishing someone off. You assume the prosecutor is going to let the grand jury see anything besides some carefully edited convenience store video and officer Wilson's testimony.
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Aug 29, 2014 16:10
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Bedshaped posted:Is this surprising? Scream and cry for society, and then do everything in your power to fix it.
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Aug 29, 2014 16:23
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Liquid Communism posted:That gap in the shooting made my hackles rise. That sure as hell sounds like 'oh poo poo he isn't dead'. It's finishing someone off. How long is the pause? I don't exactly want to listen to some dude's skype porn session.
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Aug 29, 2014 16:28
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:How long is the pause? I don't exactly want to listen to some dude's skype porn session. I don't have the video accessible right now, but I think it was 2 or 3 seconds.
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Aug 29, 2014 16:29
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:How long is the pause? I don't exactly want to listen to some dude's skype porn session. He says "you are so pretty"
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Aug 29, 2014 16:30
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:How long is the pause? I don't exactly want to listen to some dude's skype porn session. There's nothing explicit in the audio, they played it all over CNN already. It's just really embarrassing.
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Aug 29, 2014 16:32
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chitoryu12 posted:I don't have the video accessible right now, but I think it was 2 or 3 seconds. Yeah, honestly it doesn't seem as long as I imagined it would. He didn't have time to say a catchphrase or anything during the gap.
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Aug 29, 2014 16:33
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It's really clean, but could be a bit embarrassing.
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Aug 29, 2014 16:33
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I really want to believe that will be a pivotal piece of evidence but something tells me it will just be hand waved away in a court of law. "Your honor this could be ANY of the shootings that happened around that time in Ferguson, or a really old car!"
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Aug 29, 2014 16:35
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Tweak posted:I really want to believe that will be a pivotal piece of evidence but something tells me it will just be hand waved away in a court of law. Maybe you are right. But there is probably some gun dork in a basement somewhere who could name the gun and the ammunition manufacturer just based off of some internet audio.
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Aug 29, 2014 16:41
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"You are pretty, you're so fine. Just going on some of your videos. How could I forget?" Come on now, he's being genuinely complimentary, and any cam-girl with a minimal degree of savvy would expect to have the video recorded. Imagine how many more crimes could be solved if everyone walked around video-sex-chat-recording all day?
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Aug 29, 2014 16:45
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Bedshaped posted:Is this surprising? If it bothers you, donate.
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Aug 29, 2014 16:55
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AfricanBootyShine posted:If it bothers you, donate. I already did. And just did again. It still bothers me, though.
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Aug 29, 2014 17:01
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Bedshaped posted:Is this surprising? This shouldn't be surprising, people were buying Zimmerman's gis "paintings" for thousands of dollars.
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Aug 29, 2014 17:36
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If there is justice in the world, Wilson will end up like Zimmerman, at least since the last time anybody bothered to write anything about Zimmerman.
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Aug 29, 2014 18:01
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Nonsense posted:If there is justice in the world, Wilson will end up like Zimmerman, at least since the last time anybody bothered to write anything about Zimmerman. There are police departments out in the backwoods so hurting for any applicant that if he wants to, he can get a job somewhere with no benefits and 9.14 per hour with a staff of two part-time officers and a racist chief who is the cousin and brother of the mayor. They'll consider his background as a plus and a way to keep the only black resident in check. Vahakyla fucked around with this message at 18:12 on Aug 29, 2014 |
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Aug 29, 2014 18:06
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Republicans posted:Ah, the good ol' "Michelle Obama Whitey Tape" story. I think they tried to salvage that by saying "AHA! Look how nervous you all were that it might exist! That means you think it could exist and isn't that really just as bad?" IIRC the Whitey tape actually existed, but was in fact Michelle saying "why'd he". As in, "why'd he leave millions of children behind".
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Aug 29, 2014 18:12
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:By the police's own narrative, the officer fired at Michael Brown as he was running away, and we now know through math that he had to have been hit as he fled. The idea that he then turned on the spot and charged at the officer, after being shot one or more times, is patently absurd and anyone still advocating for that line of thinking is either an idiot or a racist. I have a good friend who's a doctor that responded to this with "I read shock trauma CTs all the time and extremity bullets won't stop anyone" so maybe there's a shred of credibility with the charge scenario? That doesn't explain why he would stop and decide welp going to turn around and charge now but it might at least be physically possible.
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Aug 29, 2014 18:38
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Vahakyla posted:Policing is also a job where literally everybody will get loads of complaints even if they are angels. That's not true, there was a news story recently about some (LA?) police officer who had never had a single complaint in 20+ years, let me see if I can find it.
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Aug 29, 2014 18:42
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GreyPowerVan posted:That's not true, there was a news story recently about some (LA?) police officer who had never had a single complaint in 20+ years, let me see if I can find it. Duuude, maybe it made national news because of it. It was L.A. Sheriff's Deputy Elton Simmons, he's pretty cool. http://www.cbsnews.com/news/la-traffic-cop-has-record-number-of-complaints/
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Aug 29, 2014 18:45
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Vahakyla posted:Duuude, maybe it made national news because of it. You said literally everyone. I was simply pointing out that it wasn't, in fact, literally everyone.
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Aug 29, 2014 18:46
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Pohl posted:The grand jury is potentially going to take until mid October to make a decision. Does that mean that the police can continue to stonewall the release of information? The PD will wait till the grand jury to release anything and if the grand jury doesn't indite then they'll refuse to release anything citing "officer's privacy".
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Aug 29, 2014 19:13
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nachos posted:I have a good friend who's a doctor that responded to this with "I read shock trauma CTs all the time and extremity bullets won't stop anyone" so maybe there's a shred of credibility with the charge scenario? That doesn't explain why he would stop and decide welp going to turn around and charge now but it might at least be physically possible. He may be a doctor but that's one of the most idiotic blanket statements I've heard in a long time. On PAPER maybe there's no reason for a extremity shot to stop someone, but we have gotten so incredibly efficient at making death that, with the ammunition available to anyone at all today, there's really no such thing as a simple 'extremity shot'. Seriously, I'm not going to go all TFR and spout ammunition stats, but that's a stupid rear end statement.
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Aug 29, 2014 19:30
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iostream.h posted:He may be a doctor but that's one of the most idiotic blanket statements I've heard in a long time. Hey, when you are large, black and on the marijuana, a few simple bullets in your arm are not going to stop you. It only makes sense that he rushed headlong towards a cop that had already shot him, because he was, well... actually that doesn't make any goddamn sense at all, does it?
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Aug 29, 2014 19:33
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gently caress, I totally forgot he weed buffed before he pulled the boss, duh.
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Aug 29, 2014 19:37
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nachos posted:I have a good friend who's a doctor that responded to this with "I read shock trauma CTs all the time and extremity bullets won't stop anyone" so maybe there's a shred of credibility with the charge scenario? That doesn't explain why he would stop and decide welp going to turn around and charge now but it might at least be physically possible. If you factor out the psychological response, yeah. But people who get shot will jump and twist and fling themselves in all different directions.
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Aug 29, 2014 19:43
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Regardless of what was happening on the street, the fact that the officer was shooting intermittently for ~11s is going to be difficult to explain. Have they found where the missed rounds landed? Did anyone bother looking for them?
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A bullet, even a pistol bullet, shattering the tibia or femur will absolutely physically render a person unable to run or walk.
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