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Raiad posted:This show is so stupid, but I adore every loving second of it. The reason DIO isn't equipped for the hell he's called down is because even he isn't as evil as the people coming to kill him. He's all big, flamboyant evil that is designed to show how much better than you he is and just how evil he's being. The entire JoJos team will horrifically brutalize their own team members for casual entertainment, and not even care that much. Man just isn't in the same league as that.
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Spacedad posted:I mean compared to American (mainstream superhero) comics. In fact, characters dying and staying dead was one of my earliest memories of anime: Oh gently caress off. You can't use ideon to make a point that point. It's a tomino show that's what he does. loving Goku has come back to life more times than any american comic book character I can remember.
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Seriously, Goku is the example people are going with? That series explicitly had a plot contrivance for bringing people back to life.
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I'm not that surprised that a character in jojo has come back to life considering it happened 2 times already in the previous arcs (Dio and Stroheim)
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Dio's come back 3 times. Also Joseph came back after the Cars fight.
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Uznare posted:loving Goku has come back to life more times than any american comic book character I can remember. yeah because two is such a high number.
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After this episode Avdol and Joseph being old friends makes perfect sense.
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Manga has less nonsensical resurrections than superhero stuff because you don't end up in the situation where a new author wants to use someone else's expired creations.
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Could someone post the "bam" sfx used when Avdol said "ＹＥＳ， Ｉ ＡＭ！"? I tried looking it up but I can't recognize japanese characters terribly well.
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Aug 30, 2014 04:53
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BambooEarpick posted:This episode had so much good stuff in it. Oh my god. Just a great episode. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiyDOoRt2wo
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Aug 30, 2014 04:57
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 ＴＳＫ ＴＳＫ You?! But you're dead- ＴＳＫ ＴＳＫ ＴＳＫ ＴＳＫGoddamn I love this part of the series.
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Eeevil posted:Seriously, Goku is the example people are going with? That series explicitly had a plot contrivance for bringing people back to life. Seriously, you want some bullshit plot armor, look at Bleach. Motherfuckers getting gashes the size of traffic lanes across their chest and being totally cool as long as someone wraps it up sometime this year. It's only after Kubo decided to quit after this arc that he decided the character sheet can use some pruning.
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You know, I'm surprised no one mentioned that the submarine says "4U" on it. Was that in the original?
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VanFTMan posted:You know, I'm surprised no one mentioned that the submarine says "4U" on it. Was that in the original? Yeah, but I must be dumb or something because I don't get the deal with it. What's so special about 4U?
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Lumberjack Bonanza posted:Seriously, you want some bullshit plot armor, look at Bleach. Motherfuckers getting gashes the size of traffic lanes across their chest and being totally cool as long as someone wraps it up sometime this year. It's only after Kubo decided to quit after this arc that he decided the character sheet can use some pruning. On their defense, they are spirits. And those gashes? spirit gashes. That gallon of blood? ghost blood. Hinamori cut in half? here, have some specter aspirin.
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Yeah I think you get a bit of an exception when like 90% of the cast is actual dead people.
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VanFTMan posted:You know, I'm surprised no one mentioned that the submarine says "4U" on it. Was that in the original? I brought that up. Though, in hindsight, it might've been in the general thread. FirstAidKite posted:Yeah, but I must be dumb or something because I don't get the deal with it. What's so special about 4U? Just a continuation of the Hail/Hell 2U gag.
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After all that zombie horror shenanigans, I think Avdol being really gung-ho about peeing in a guy's mouth was the scariest part of the episode. I guess he's been a little stir-crazy for the last couple of weeks.
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Lumberjack Bonanza posted:Seriously, you want some bullshit plot armor, look at Bleach. Motherfuckers getting gashes the size of traffic lanes across their chest and being totally cool as long as someone wraps it up sometime this year. It's only after Kubo decided to quit after this arc that he decided the character sheet can use some pruning.
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FirstAidKite posted:Yeah, but I must be dumb or something because I don't get the deal with it. What's so special about 4U? you're a big poster
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Uznare posted:Oh gently caress off. You can't use ideon to make a point that point. It's a tomino show that's what he does. And I agree with that - the plot armor in a lot of anime is ridiculous. However, for kids who grew up on lovely cartoons and comics where everything was sanitized and sugar-coated, exposure to characters dying with consequences was a mind-blowing revelation that actually helped get me into anime in the first place. I remember being blown away by the idea that an apparent main character could actually get killed off a few episodes in to one of the shows I was watching. It left a pretty indelible impression on me. Spacedad fucked around with this message at 09:22 on Aug 30, 2014 |
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Soulcleaver posted:Every episode of Jojo has at least one of the good guys getting stabbed/shot/superpunched (usually in a vital area) and/or leaking gallons of blood and barely feeling it or slowing down even as they formulate their plan. Then they don't have as much as a scratch next episode because it's not called Jojo's Lay Down in a Hospital Bed for Two Months to Recover and Still Have Permanent Injuries Adventure. I'm not trying to insult you, I just don't get why you'd pick Bleach as an standout example of bullshit biology in regards to the effects of combat in fiction. Well all anime and manga have ridiculous bullshit, I'm not saying they don't. Some just throw out everything we know about biology way more than others. I'm sure you can pick crazier poo poo than my example, it's just one of the series I'm most familiar with. Despite what you're saying, Jojo's is actually much better about it than other series. At least people actually die from their injuries.
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Soulcleaver posted:Every episode of Jojo has at least one of the good guys getting stabbed/shot/superpunched (usually in a vital area) and/or leaking gallons of blood and barely feeling it or slowing down even as they formulate their plan. Then they don't have as much as a scratch next episode because it's not called Jojo's Lay Down in a Hospital Bed for Two Months to Recover and Still Have Permanent Injuries Adventure. I'm not trying to insult you, I just don't get why you'd pick Bleach as an standout example of bullshit biology in regards to the effects of combat in fiction. Jojo's as we've seen often has the characters being horribly maimed and then being a-okay in the next story. It used to be you could justify the healing as being part of hamon in arcs 1 and 2, but not so in this arc - so the absurd gore (with notable exceptions, when characters lose limbs or really do die) is really just there for exaggerated entertainment. I think it might be a result of Araki just taking for granted that his characters would heal up for a new story the following week. Still, if he was cycling through different characters under attack each week, he could have had the ones not on the menu with their arms in a sling and stitches or something. Or have Jotaro doing surgery with SP, or Joseph using hamon to heal up bad wounds. (Hell, even getting Avdol to cauterize bleeding would be nice.) Spacedad fucked around with this message at 09:36 on Aug 30, 2014 |
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Uznare posted:loving Goku has come back to life more times than any american comic book character I can remember. Jean Grey. These days none of the X-Men are even surprised when she comes back.
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gently caress trophy 2k14 posted:you're a big poster Tell me about DIO, why does he wear the mask?!?
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Zeruel posted:Tell me about DIO, why does he wear the mask?!? If I pull that fleshbud off will you die? Fat_Cow fucked around with this message at 15:05 on Aug 30, 2014 |
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Rhygezenguro posted:Jean Grey. These days none of the X-Men are even surprised when she comes back. Jean Grey? Pfffttt. Amateur. Mister Immortal.
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Rhygezenguro posted:Jean Grey. These days none of the X-Men are even surprised when she comes back. Her power is literally called Phoenix though.
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trucutru posted:Jean Grey? Pfffttt. Amateur. But Mr Immortal never really leaves, does he? Could anyone recommend me an anime or manga similar to Battle Tendency? I really enjoyed Part 2 for the creative use of Hamon and Joseph's ability to always stay one step ahead of his enemy, but I've never got that same wit from the other parts. I loved the concept of having a very straightforward power that doesn't suddenly level up in the middle of a fight but was used in unorthodox but really satisfying ways, and JoJo's sleight-of-hand fit this perfectly. And although Stands were a cool addition and ultimately get more milage than Hamon, I'd have loved to see more stuff like this. So is there anything you could recommend?
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Boogaleeboo posted:The reason DIO isn't equipped for the hell he's called down is because even he isn't as evil as the people coming to kill him. He's all big, flamboyant evil that is designed to show how much better than you he is and just how evil he's being. The entire JoJos team will horrifically brutalize their own team members for casual entertainment, and not even care that much. Man just isn't in the same league as that. manga spoilers Somebody fucked around with this message at 21:56 on Aug 30, 2014 |
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Relin posted:TEAMWORK This isn't the manga thread.
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Bringing a dead character back to life because the fans liked him is the most stupid, indulgent thing. But it's exactly the kind of thing I like to be in my JoJos 
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I clapped out of joy when Polnareff and Avdol took part in the timeless male bonding ritual of pissing together (into another man's mouth).
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horriblePencilist posted:But Mr Immortal never really leaves, does he? RatHat posted:Her power is literally called Phoenix though.
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Still catching up. I thiiiink I like part 2 more so far, but it's still early on (just got past yellow temperance). Joseph is just such an awesome character with his idiot plans and constant taunts. Also it felt like part 2 had things besides fights but I could be remembering wrong, part 3 is very much "here's who we are fighting today" at this point. Holy poo poo what does part 3 have against animals though. Why you gotta cut off a puppy's head  heard it gets worse
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:Still catching up. I thiiiink I like part 2 more so far, but it's still early on (just got past yellow temperance). Joseph is just such an awesome character with his idiot plans and constant taunts. Also it felt like part 2 had things besides fights but I could be remembering wrong, part 3 is very much "here's who we are fighting today" at this point. It'll be hard to compare until both series are concluded and you can look at them side by side, but Battle Tendency was by its nature a very focused, driven story, whereas Stardust Crusaders is much more about Araki exploring what Stands can do and having just amazing characters that bounce off each other fantastically. And it does keep getting better and better as Stands get stranger and the fights get longer, with more twists and turns. Araki is well known to love animals, so the most tragic/evil thing he can think of is violence to animals. It's his fast-track to making someone an irredeemable villain.
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Liquid Dinosaur posted:I clapped out of joy when Polnareff and Avdol took part in the timeless male bonding ritual of pissing together (into another man's mouth). With attendant rainbows. I know people were grumbling about the lack of fabulousness after Battle Tendency, so it's nice to see this season getting super gay sometimes. Insofar as non-consensual muscleman watersports can be described as 'nice'.
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This series is a different sort of homoerotic, much like slapping a mans rear end in a gym.
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