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This feels incredibly relevant. Isn't the "zee zee" the typical Jimmy Olson signal watch noise?
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Okay, so Lord Havok is Dr. Doom, the axe is Mjolnir, the egg is perhaps a cosmic cube, but I don't think the Omni-Gauntlet could be the Infinity Gauntlet; it doesn't look like it's powerful enough. It could be the equivalent to Quasar's Quantum Bands though.
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Aug 23, 2014 21:17
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I feel like the egg's more like the one from JLA/Avengers, especially since there's someone inside of it.
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Aug 23, 2014 21:25
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Jiro posted:It's you, you're Bastion! Save us from The Nothing! Say the Empress's name! GLORIANA TENEBRAE!
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Aug 23, 2014 21:27
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Lars Blitzer posted:Okay, so Lord Havok is Dr. Doom, the axe is Mjolnir, the egg is perhaps a cosmic cube, but I don't think the Omni-Gauntlet could be the Infinity Gauntlet; it doesn't look like it's powerful enough. It could be the equivalent to Quasar's Quantum Bands though. Why would they bank on a second-rate character's unique item? Its pretty obvious they're alluding to Items of Immense Cosmic Power here. Do we ever even see it in action? Its just a namedrop macguffin meant to hilight the issue's crossover-like Everything At Stake storytelling structure.
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Aug 24, 2014 00:14
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Yeah, it's basically all "Grabbing all sorts of Major Cosmic Doo-dads and Whatchamacallits to impress the idea that Something Very, Very Bad Is Going To Happen!"
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Aug 24, 2014 01:26
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Morrison has used an egg in the actual Marvel Universe before, the Phoenix Egg, but you're right, they're just a bunch of Very Important Items to signify the high stakes that mean EVERYTHING again and again until they mean nothing at all, like the two world killing nukes with the convenient off switches from his Animal Man run.
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Aug 24, 2014 10:14
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Blind Marvin posted:Morrison has used an egg in the actual Marvel Universe before, the Phoenix Egg, but you're right, they're just a bunch of Very Important Items to signify the high stakes that mean EVERYTHING again and again until they mean nothing at all, like the two world killing nukes with the convenient off switches from his Animal Man run. Someone on Twitter made the comparison to Adam Warlock's evil self hatching from an egg?
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Leaving the incredibly  discussion of 'what, EXACTLY, is this universal power geegaw an analogue for' aside for a moment:Is the Gentry a stand-in for more of Morrison' critiques of what sap exciting comics this age? Misery, Hellish creations, shackles of continuity, over intellectualization/analysis, and ultimately an entitled fandom that's perverse in its attempts to gatekeep or evaluate? FilthyImp fucked around with this message at 20:34 on Aug 24, 2014 |
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Aug 24, 2014 20:32
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They're probably a lot of things. I think it's pretty important to note that there's only one recognizably humanoid member of The Gentry. "Dame Merciless" is a scantily clad, corpse-like female figure who only wears the flimsiest funeral rags. If The Gentry are the things wrong with Comic Books, that's one of 'em pinned down.
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Aug 24, 2014 20:43
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The gentrification of the DC Universe, most superficially.
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Aug 25, 2014 19:30
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I do like the "anti-death equation", which prevents a heroic sacrifice from meaning anything while at the same time bringing back a character for more degrading storylines.
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Aug 26, 2014 03:34
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Frazer Irving shared his variant to one of the issues Yes, this is John Constantine, The Hellblazer from that parody Doom Patrol issue. Amazing  
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Aug 26, 2014 21:05
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fatherboxx posted:Frazer Irving shared his variant to one of the issues I dunno, 90's-esque Fate doesn't look grungy enough.
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fatherboxx posted:Frazer Irving shared his variant to one of the issues Oh god, I hope he's actually in the issue.
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Aug 26, 2014 21:49
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fatherboxx posted:Frazer Irving shared his variant to one of the issues There any variants yet for other issues? This series is going to be expensive.
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fatherboxx posted:Frazer Irving shared his variant to one of the issues The counter guy looked at me like I was retard since it was 5:15pm.  That's all a very long way about of saying that this Irving variant is going to be gone gone gone.
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Aug 26, 2014 23:03
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I love Frazer Irving.
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I was just thinking a few days ago how great it'd be if an alternate universe Constantine was a corny superhero like that issue of Doom Patrol, and here we are
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Some of this has already been pointed out, but here are some links between Morrison's work since Final Crisis: From Final Crisis:  From Multiversity:  From Action Comics:   From Batman RIP and earlier in his run:  Here is what Morrison had to say about the green monster clinging on the back of Bat-Mite (/Might): Grant Morrison posted:I had this idea the creatures in the fifth dimension were so appalling to look at, they couldn't show themselves to humans. It's not because they're bad, it's just because if we were to look at them we'd fall apart and poo poo ourselves. Bat-mite very kindly disguises himself as a child-like version of Batman. What you see is the face of something in the fifth dimension. So is that green monster in Multiversity another attack from the fifth dimension (aka ZRFFF), or maybe even the same attack as in Action but just seen from a different angle? Could it be that it only seems like an attack to people within linear time, but it actually has some kind of benevolent purpose (like an innoculation for the multiverse)?
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Aug 27, 2014 18:12
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Lord Krangdar posted:From Final Crisis: I want to know what that clock's counting down to. Should I be reading Morrison's Action Comics run before/alongside Multiversity?
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Aug 27, 2014 18:20
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Evil Mastermind posted:I want to know what that clock's counting down to. (side-note, those bodies falling through the bleed at the top are pretty super-creepy) -Sure! redbackground fucked around with this message at 18:31 on Aug 27, 2014 |
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Aug 27, 2014 18:21
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Evil Mastermind posted:I want to know what that clock's counting down to. Well its too early to tell how much the stories will really tie together, or if the connections I've made are just Morrison re-using his favorite tropes. You should at least read issue 9, about President Superman, since it directly leads up to Multiversity #1. In my opinion it was a pretty messy run, especially due to inconsistent art, but worth reading for the beginning and end storylines.
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redbackground posted:-Perhaps you have heard of Watchmen? quote:(side-note, those bodies falling through the bleed at the top is pretty super-creepy)  e: TAGS ARE HARD
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Aug 27, 2014 18:25
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Evil Mastermind posted:I thought of that, but given this is Morrison it's entirely possible he's laying groundwork for something else. redbackground fucked around with this message at 18:32 on Aug 27, 2014 |
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Aug 27, 2014 18:29
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Isn't the clock approaching midnight mainly just short-hand for an urgent crisis? But yeah, with that upcoming Watchmen homage issue of Multiversity its hard not to see its second inclusion as also being a Watchmen reference. Would be cool if we see that same kind of thing there but from the perspective of inside the comic-page looking out into the bleed-space between universes. Lord Krangdar fucked around with this message at 18:46 on Aug 27, 2014 |
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Aug 27, 2014 18:33
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redbackground posted:Well, kind of. All of the Watchmen characters are based off of Charlton Comics characters (which DC bought a long time ago, and Watchmen was originally going to use those characters--Blue Beetle, Captain Atom, The Question, etc). There is an upcoming issue of Multiversity that actually will use the original Charlton guys instead of their ersatz replacements (illustrated by Frank Quitely) and was already surely on GMozz's mind at the time. If you knew this already, apologies. Yeah, I saw on Wikipedia that one of the issues is going to be the actual Charleston characters. I just didn't make the Charleston->Watchmen connection since I generally forget all about that until it comes up in discussions.
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Lord Krangdar posted:Isn't the clock approaching midnight mainly just short-hand for an urgent crisis? There is a gauge called the Doomsday Clock that was set up by a group of scientists to express how close the world was to nuclear annihilation. During the Cold War, it got pretty close to mid night because the nuclear superpowers were close to attacking each other, and that was a main drive for the conflict behind Watchmen. Right now, not so much.
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redbackground posted:-Perhaps you have heard of Watchmen? Those "Bodies" are almost definitely Shadow Demons of the sort that both the Anti-Monitor and Mandrakk The Dark Monitor utilized as minions
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drrockso20 posted:Those "Bodies" are almost definitely Shadow Demons of the sort that both the Anti-Monitor and Mandrakk The Dark Monitor utilized as minions It looks more like 9/11 imagery to me; the people who jumped out the windows rather than being burned alive.
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Aug 28, 2014 19:53
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Those were definitively Shadow Demons in the story.
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Aug 28, 2014 19:56
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d00gZ posted:Those were definitively Shadow Demons in the story. Can you explain further please?
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StumblyWumbly posted:There is a gauge called the Doomsday Clock that was set up by a group of scientists to express how close the world was to nuclear annihilation. During the Cold War, it got pretty close to mid night because the nuclear superpowers were close to attacking each other, and that was a main drive for the conflict behind Watchmen. Haha, well, in 1984 the Clock was at 3 minutes to midnight (largely because of the threat of US-Soviet nuclear war). With the end of the Cold War it did move backward significantly, but in recent years, the clock has moved back up. Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists posted:"The challenges to rid the world of nuclear weapons, harness nuclear power, and meet the nearly inexorable climate disruptions from global warming are complex and interconnected. In the face of such complex problems, it is difficult to see where the capacity lies to address these challenges." Political processes seem wholly inadequate; the potential for nuclear weapons use in regional conflicts in the Middle East, Northeast Asia, and South Asia are alarming; safer nuclear reactor designs need to be developed and built, and more stringent oversight, training, and attention are needed to prevent future disasters; the pace of technological solutions to address climate change may not be adequate to meet the hardships that large-scale disruption of the climate portends. The current time is five minutes to midnight, which, to circle back to comics, is the time that the (in-universe) Clock was set at in the first issue of Watchmen.
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I don't really read DC, but I just read the first couple pages of this thread and it sounds great. Am I going to need an extensive knowledge of the workings if the DC universe to enjoy this or can I just jump in and enjoy the Morrison insanity?
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Read Action Comics #9 at least. It'll introduce you to one of the main characters in #1. https://www.comixology.com/Action-Comics-2011-9/digital-comic/24203 You don't need to go deep on it, but there's a ton there and it builds on a lot of his past DC event concepts. I'd recommend just jumping in and then reading an annotation page http://comicsalliance.com/multiversity-dc-comics-grant-morrison-annotations-part-1/ and see where it takes you.
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Aug 31, 2014 12:18
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Has there been any information on when the Multiversity Guidebook will be released? I keep seeing mentions of it but nothing about when it's gonna be available.
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Evil Mastermind posted:Has there been any information on when the Multiversity Guidebook will be released? I keep seeing mentions of it but nothing about when it's gonna be available. I want to say near or after the end of the whole shebang.
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Has the clock moved backward since Final Crisis? In the caps above. Also what the gently caress did i just read
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irlZaphod posted:Also what the gently caress did i just read I came here to post exactly this. Now I gotta dig out Final Crisis again. There's a lot of stuff I never noticed in there, I think. It blows my mind how deep and long in advance Morrison has been planning this. I almost feel like going back and reading The Invisibles again too...
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Alright! they are calling him Captain Marvel again! Even if it is just for Multiversity, it makes me happy to see him and the family go by the proper names in the solicit for the Thunderworld issue.
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