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Cheesus posted:I find it hard to believe Lucas released the non-anamorphic versions just to annoy people. Nah, the guy hates them, which is why they grab any prints of the original they can find. There was a 'salute to George Lucas' thing a while back, and one of my favourite stories is that in the highlight reel they used stuff from the original cuts, and he visibly bristled at it. He, in every way, considers them the inferior versions. He doesn't like them and he knows that really, it doesn't matter what edition he'll put out because people will still buy it. The only reason the original cuts were included was down to pressure. Hell they're listed as a 'Bonus Feature'.
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Nate RFB posted:I've never cared for the original Despecialized attempts, finding them to be waxy DNRed messes. However the new ones based on the 2011 blu-rays with color correction performed I have to say do look pretty great. Definitely something to keep an eye on (A New Hope is done but I don't think ESB or ROTJ are yet). Version 2 of TESB just came out, it uses the blu ray version as it's base.
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When Lucasfilm was an independently operating identity: "The audience for the unaltered original trilogy is so small that it isn't worth their time to do all the work necessary, there simply won't be enough return on investment." Now that Disney owns Lucasfilm and they'd have to work out some deal with Fox for distribution: "Fox isn't going to let a payday that big just walk out the door, no way can Disney work things out with them until 2020 at the earliest!" No one knows the particulars of George Lucas's current ratio of control over to animosity towards the unaltered originals, so I won't touch that. But I find the shifting arguments about the economic issues facing the project to be humorous.
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How are the Arrow Blu-Ray releases? They have some Fulci and Bava titles out I am interested in, but I can't say I have hear any reviews of the their quality, good or bad.
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Dr.Caligari posted:How are the Arrow Blu-Ray releases? They have some Fulci and Bava titles out I am interested in, but I can't say I have hear any reviews of the their quality, good or bad. Their quality was kinda iffy when they first started producing Blu-rays (quality control problems, low bitrate encodes, mild-to-intermediate DNR), but they hired a new director or something a year or two ago and the quality has dramatically improved. I believe that the Fulci and Bava titles were among their early output, but I could be forgetting some more recent ones. I know there is extensive discussion of Arrow's releases in the UK subforum of blu-ray.com.
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Stargate Atlantis: The Complete Series is the deal of the day. $44.99 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...LLYTOSK6L5POVSZ
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Neo_Reloaded posted:When Lucasfilm was an independently operating identity: "The audience for the unaltered original trilogy is so small that it isn't worth their time to do all the work necessary, there simply won't be enough return on investment." I have no doubt at all that they'll come out. The main stumbling block was that Lucas just doesn't want them seeing the light of day. Now he's gone...sort of...and the only real question is how much money is there to be made and who does it go to. If it's true that Fox don't want to step on Lucas' toes then you'll be seeing it later rather than any time soon. Fox lose the rights to two of the movies in 2020, but they'll always have A New Hope under their banner. They can try and work something out now, or they can do one in 2020 just in time for the complete saga to be released on Blu. All 9 episodes in a gigantic box set.
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DrVenkman posted:I have no doubt at all that they'll come out. The main stumbling block was that Lucas just doesn't want them seeing the light of day. Now he's gone...sort of...and the only real question is how much money is there to be made and who does it go to. If it's true that Fox don't want to step on Lucas' toes then you'll be seeing it later rather than any time soon. Fox lose the rights to two of the movies in 2020, but they'll always have A New Hope under their banner. They can try and work something out now, or they can do one in 2020 just in time for the complete saga to be released on Blu. All 9 episodes in a gigantic box set. Plus the random side episodes about Bobba Fett and whoever.
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computer parts posted:Plus the random side episodes about Bobba Fett and whoever. I really hope the Boba Fett is just a three stooges style physical comedy about how incompetent and lame he is, by the way. Just him bumbling his way through the universe and accidentally becoming a successful bounty hunter. Retcon all of Vader's lines to be super sarcastic ("No disintegrations" is actually Vader warning him not to accidentally disintegrate himself, for instance).
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Jango is portrayed as far more competent than Boba. It's too bad he's stuck in a bad movie.
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TheJoker138 posted:I really hope the Boba Fett is just a three stooges style physical comedy about how incompetent and lame he is, by the way. Just him bumbling his way through the universe and accidentally becoming a successful bounty hunter. Retcon all of Vader's lines to be super sarcastic ("No disintegrations" is actually Vader warning him not to accidentally disintegrate himself, for instance). Chris Pratt could play Boba!
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H. Jon Benjamin for Boba Fett.
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Yaws posted:Jango is portrayed as far more competent than Boba. It's too bad he's stuck in a bad movie. He's just an honest man trying to make a living in the universe.
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Yaws posted:Jango is portrayed as far more competent than Boba. It's too bad he's stuck in a bad movie. Jango hires another person to do the job he was hired to do (who then fucks it up), leads Obi-Wan directly to the secret clone planet, then gets his head cut off. Yeah, FAR more competent 
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TheJoker138 posted:Jango hires another person to do the job he was hired to do (who then fucks it up), leads Obi-Wan directly to the secret clone planet, then gets his head cut off. Jango is shown to be a far more able fighter than Boba and actually kills a Jedi. Boba fell into a sarlaac pit after a blind guy hit him with a stick. Boba sucks. Anyway, I just got my Predator bluray and it sucks. All the characters have this weird plastic sheen to them. I hate it.
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The old Predator Blu-ray is much better than the new one. I'd only buy the newest release to see it in 3D.
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Y Kant Ozma Diet posted:Jango is shown to be a far more able fighter than Boba and actually kills a Jedi. Boba fell into a sarlaac pit after a blind guy hit him with a stick. Boba sucks. It's horrible. It's the absolute definition of something that was run through a computer on an automatic setting and made to look 'HD'. It treats grain as some sort of dirt and eliminates it so that everyone looks waxy.
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I still have that first release of Predator with all the grain, but the transfer is basically a DVD upscale so it's poo poo all the way down for Predator releases.
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The problem with releases like Predator and The Sword in the Stone is that it shows that no one bothered looking at the final video master before having tens of thousands of Blu-Rays produced. Even releases like Spartacus and the original Patton disc look awful up close, but are passable on smaller monitors. Most likely because they were meant for SD masters (downscaling Spartacus to 480p makes it look almost exactly like Criterion's DVD). Predator doesn't even look right in thumbnails. Egbert Souse fucked around with this message at 15:25 on Aug 24, 2014 |
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Dissapointed Owl posted:I still have that first release of Predator with all the grain, but the transfer is basically a DVD upscale so it's poo poo all the way down for Predator releases. Yeah, I'm baffled by people saying the original Blu looked better. It didn't even look HD. Every release has been poo poo.
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Rocco posted:Yeah, I'm baffled by people saying the original Blu looked better. It didn't even look HD. Every release has been poo poo. From looking at screenshots, it seems like a pretty good release that's held back by MPEG-2 compression and an older encode. Apparently, Predator was shot on a grainier film stock, so even a 4K scan will still look a bit hazy and grainy.
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Rocco posted:Yeah, I'm baffled by people saying the original Blu looked better. It didn't even look HD. Every release has been poo poo. Eh, I'd rather have it than the weird House of Wax version of the movie.
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Dissapointed Owl posted:I still have that first release of Predator with all the grain, but the transfer is basically a DVD upscale so it's poo poo all the way down for Predator releases. You know, I'm fine with that release. Nobody looks like a wax statue. Maybe the darkness and jungle scenes are helped by the grain? I don't know. I paid $5 for it in ... 2009? So I'm not gonna bitch.
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Looks like new 4K restorations are on the way for My Fair Lady, The Day the Earth Stood Still, and The Apu Trilogy: http://www.the-reel-thing.co/session-schedule/ Obviously, nothing about Blu-Ray specifically, but they're in the works. I find the existing Fox Blu of The Day... to be fantastic in quality, but it's great they're going an extra step to ensure it's preserved at optimal quality. CBS released a fairly mediocre Blu of My Fair Lady... taken from a early 2000s 1080p master from 35mm. The new restoration is supposed to be entirely from the 65mm camera negative, with damaged/missing sections directly from the 65mm color separations. In the initial restoration in 1994, they had to use a lot of optical tricks for those shots (such as re-creating the opening titles from frame loops). I'm not crazy about the film, but it's exactly the sort of film that should look incredible on Blu with proper work.
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Red posted:You know, I'm fine with that release. Nobody looks like a wax statue. You're right, it's a subpar bluray release but by far the best home video release so far.
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I bought the alternate art Blu-Ray of Road House, and it's not an alternate cover - it's just a placard that doesn't fit inside the case. What is the point of these things?
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Red posted:I bought the alternate art Blu-Ray of Road House, and it's not an alternate cover - it's just a placard that doesn't fit inside the case. What is the point of these things? Get money from people. It's advertising.
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More Kino Lorber announcements... Kino Lorber: White Lightning (1973, Joseph Sargent) - Nov. 11 [MGM Studio Classics] Gator (1976, Burt Reynolds) - Nov. 11 [MGM Studio Classics] Coming Home (1978, Hal Ashby) - Nov. 18 [MGM Studio Classics] The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari (1920, Robert Wiene) - Nov. 18 [F.W. Murnau Foundation, 4K restoration] The Bubble (1966, Arch Obler) - Nov. 18 [3-D Film Archive, Blu-Ray 3D] Thieves Like Us (1973, Robert Altman) - Nov. 25 [MGM Studio Classics] The Long Goodbye (1975, Robert Altman) - Nov. 25 [MGM Studio Classics] The Conformist (1970, Bernardo Bertolucci) - Nov. 25 [Raro Video, new 4K restoration] Buffalo Bill and the Indians (1976, Robert Altman) - Dec. 9 [MGM Studio Classics] Also, Mr. Smith Goes to Washington is up for pre-order on Amazon via Sony, but no release date yet. As with It Happened One Night, it's a new 4K restoration by Sony Colorworks.
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Fantastic that they're not wasting time releasing the restored Caligari. Can't freaking wait.
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caiman posted:Fantastic that they're not wasting time releasing the restored Caligari. Can't freaking wait. I feel bad that I was more excited when I misread that as Caligula which painfully needs a better bluray.
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Egbert Souse posted:The Conformist (1970, Bernardo Bertolucci) - Nov. 25 [Raro Video, new 4K restoration] Raro was originally going to put this out in the US themselves (announced like freaking forever ago), I wonder what happened. Are they just focusing on shlock releases now?
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leokitty posted:Raro was originally going to put this out in the US themselves (announced like freaking forever ago), I wonder what happened. Are they just focusing on shlock releases now? I think the delay was due to the existing master being kind of old (same one used for Paramount's DVD) and Arrow's release kind of showed its shortcomings. It was rumored for a while Criterion would get the rights, but it seems like a lot of American licenses for Italian films are reverting to their native copyright holders.
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We were arguing about this a long time ago but it's finally happening.quote:HBO's The Wire, aka that show you've been saying for years you'll watch because all your friends won't shut up about it, is coming back. The show is being remastered for HD, and it's supposed to marathon on HBO at some point in the near future. However, exactly when that'll happen isn't nailed down just yet: though HBO began running promos advertising the HD episodes' premiere on September 4th (as seen above), HBO tells us that the episodes "aren’t ready yet." The episodes are still being reviewed, and HBO says that it hopes to share more soon. http://www.theverge.com/2014/9/2/6096833/hbo-the-wire-hd-marathon Call Me Charlie fucked around with this message at 21:55 on Sep 2, 2014 |
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Call Me Charlie posted:We were arguing about this a long time ago but it's finally happening. Unless he changed his mind, David Simon isn't going to be pleased.
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What is the problem exactly? Just remaster it in 4:3 and release it. Tits and copious amounts of gore is ok, but HBO viewers can't deal with black bars on the sides?
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Mr. Funny Pants posted:Unless he changed his mind, David Simon isn't going to be pleased. I honestly don't give a gently caress what he thinks about this. His whole argument was just some gut feeling crap about "4:3 just seems more like TV!" if I'm remembering right, and screw that. They could just remaster them in HD and leave the aspect ratio, but even if they switched it to wide I'd still be fine with it.
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If something's framed for 4:3, it looks terrible in widescreen, though. The Region 2 (I think) dvds of the Buffy the Vampire Slayer tv show were done in 16:9, and not only did everything look like it was framed wrong, but the edges of other the set (and the beginnings of other sets) were visible, I think along with actors waiting to enter the frame.
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Jack Gladney posted:If something's framed for 4:3, it looks terrible in widescreen, though. The Region 2 (I think) dvds of the Buffy the Vampire Slayer tv show were done in 16:9, and not only did everything look like it was framed wrong, but the edges of other the set (and the beginnings of other sets) were visible, I think along with actors waiting to enter the frame. It depends on how it was framed when it was shot. I'm sure if it looks like rear end HBO will do it 4:3. Did anyone watch any of the 16:9 ones on Amazon before they got pulled?
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Jack Gladney posted:If something's framed for 4:3, it looks terrible in widescreen, though. The Region 2 (I think) dvds of the Buffy the Vampire Slayer tv show were done in 16:9, and not only did everything look like it was framed wrong, but the edges of other the set (and the beginnings of other sets) were visible, I think along with actors waiting to enter the frame. They protected for 16:9 until season 4 at which point David Simon made an executive decision that it should be 4:3
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