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Neurolimal posted:maybe zoe quinn is an a-hole and cuck-queen, i dont think that merits spreading nudes of her and accusing every website of being biased in her favor because they don't want to report on relationship drama
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thats cool, i dont care particularly about zoe quinn and its p poo poo if those people genuinely didn't do anything wrong, idk what that has to do with me saying lots of the people against her writing longform essays in gbs are crazy as heck
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Aug 31, 2014 22:44
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people who supposedly consider themselves left-wing are watching your back, corporations, sleep tight
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CrazyLittle posted:You do realize that accusing the victim of lying, again, only proves the point, right? You really don't understand what's going on do you? Harassment and threats against Quinn and Sarkeesian are likely a mix of being real, exaggerated, or completely faked. And threats/harassment against them are exactly what they want. The two make their living as professional victims. The bigger the "witch hunt" against them, the more bank they make. This whole ordeal has more the doubled Quinn's monthly salary for sitting around and doing nothing. She earns more per year than many teachers and she wrote the text for one incredibly lovely game two years ago. I seriously doubt her actual work on Depression Quest took more than a couple hours. She has done nothing since then except collect even more money for a pretend game jam. edit: removed assumption about our SWJ Sophy Wackles fucked around with this message at 22:48 on Aug 31, 2014 |
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ArbitraryC posted:Are you an idiot? Everyone thinks it's biased because when cases with even less proof came up against men all those websites went in lockstep against the alleged rapists, actively attacked their careers, and caused them to lose job opportunities. This issue has actual chatlogs and such which while possibly forged (would have been a lot of forging, but it is possible I guess) had a totally different response that went straight to attacking the victim instead. If you can't acknowledge that as a problem you're part of it. like i said, he posted a video showing the conversation he took screenshots from on his computer, and showed a closeup of the url proving it was zoe quinn. the possibility of them being forged is pretty much out of the question. also zoe quinn hasn't denied any of it.
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when it comes to anita kardashian im prolly gonna pick the side that has william gibson on it imo
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Games shouldn't be fun or a form of escapism, they should instead enlighten us by raising awareness of social issues and constantly reminding us of the injustices of the world.
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The Brown Menace posted:apparently the guy who hates fun is devin wilson https://archive.today/2t93l#selection-1689.76-1693.450 Yeah, this is a his full article, its weird as gently caress and it wouldn't surprise if this was end goal for alot of SJWs even zoe or anita.
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Pawn 17 posted:You really don't understand what's going on do you? Women enjoy being threatened since it creates a business opportunity for them.
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) and you will keep turning a blind eye towards anything and everything showing what a loving terrible person she is based solely on the terrible actions she has taken.
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Denim Dude posted:like i said, he posted a video showing the conversation he took screenshots from on his computer, and showed a closeup of the url proving it was zoe quinn. the possibility of them being forged is pretty much out of the question. also zoe quinn hasn't denied any of it. Plus she said blame your husband not me to the wife of her boss. So in a sea of rumors, the first thing definitively proven true is that she cheated on her boyfriend with 5+ guys.
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Aug 31, 2014 22:49
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All I really expect out of people is "Yeah Zoe is a lovely person but...". I don't care about anything that comes after but...
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i masturbate while playing candy crush in solidarity
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The Brown Menace posted:apparently the guy who hates fun is devin wilson Pretty much all the points on his dumb list are hilariously stupid. quote:6. We maintain a critical eye towards the e-sports scene and its accompanying machismo. quote:12. We don’t afford any credence to the idea that games are “just for fun”. Games are not neutral. quote:16. We do not assume that the harassment we’ve seen lately is a complete aberration. We understand that there is a link between this medium that terrorists see themselves as defending and the terrorism itself.
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16. We do not assume that the harassment we’ve seen lately is a complete aberration. We understand that there is a link between this medium that terrorists see themselves as defending and the terrorism itself. This is a level of liberalism I never even imagined existed
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This was a horrible week to be a human. I think we might be witnessing death of an identity. I'm an x-man now.
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Neurolimal posted:thats cool, i dont care particularly about zoe quinn and its p poo poo if those people genuinely didn't do anything wrong, idk what that has to do with me saying lots of the people against her writing longform essays in gbs are crazy as heck You're just really dumb if you can't connect this to being a problem with social justice communities in general. Everyone went to bat for a self titled rapist because she was a woman and friends with them which undermines pretty much the entire community. So many prominent people were involved in this and they still refuse to acknowledge their mistakes and that in itself is a huge issue. People like you are all too willing to acknowledge the existence of the vocal minority of MRA, who in all reality has no influence or has made much of an impact on anything, but want to completely disregard the presence of the SJW who is literally so influential there was an orchestrated campaign of censorship, lies, and doublestandards. MRAs have done poo poo all of anything, SJWs got thousands of comments deleted, articles censored, victims blamed, and still somehow are making money off of being attackedby the patriarchy.
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Hey now calling me a terrorist is my trigger. You must address me as a "Freedom Fighter".
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etalian posted:Women enjoy being threatened since it creates a business opportunity for them. Do we have a straw man emote?
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Brannock posted:it must be really awesome to be abusive and manipulative towards someone and when they've finally had enough and dump/out you, you get considered the victim instead Shinjobi posted:Dude, I think Zoe's closed for the weekend. All this work on your part isn't going to get you any closer to a hand job. She is a bad person, she did bad things, and while it's yet to be 200% confirmed that she used her body for publicity, acting on that suspicion has turned up multiple instances where dudes she has allegedly slept with rewarding her game with awards and other such things. There is no shaming going on with Zoe; her cursed vajayngo has ruined some lives. Unless of course you're trying to say that the wives/girlfriends of the dudes Zoe allegedly slept with are lying, too? In which case, holy poo poo balls you're already in your own little world. Right, criticizing the harassment of Zoe Quinn must mean there's sexual favors involved. Got it. Also thanks for admitting that you're excusing harassment over unconfirmed rumors and the one-sided story of an ugly breakup. CrazyLittle fucked around with this message at 23:10 on Aug 31, 2014 |
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Supernorn posted:Games shouldn't be fun or a form of escapism, they should instead enlighten us by raising awareness of social issues and constantly reminding us of the injustices of the world. These people want to subject everyone else to their lovely college course class lectures because they hate that everyone else was off getting a real major.
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CrazyLittle posted:Eron Gonji dumped Zoe. By your logic that makes him the abuser. even taking in to account the context of the person you quoted and the picture i'm not seeing this.
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CrazyLittle posted:Eron Gonji dumped Zoe. By your logic that makes him the abuser.  did you really just do that?
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Lightanchor posted:16. We do not assume that the harassment we’ve seen lately is a complete aberration. We understand that there is a link between this medium that terrorists see themselves as defending and the terrorism itself. Because it isn't liberal. This particular brand of people is looking for de-institutionalized religion with all the same mythologizing, guilt, control, and moral panic crap.
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I do take some pride in the fact that I can call myself a Game Designer and not feel like a liar. However, I also feel like a number of the “games” I’ve made aren’t Games (or even Puzzles, which can be considered their own form as well). I’m fine with that! To me, it’s not exclusively symptomatic of an unquestionably fascistic game culture. Certainly the popular notion of what constitutes a “game” (or, worse, a “gamer”) is far too restrictive, but that doesn’t mean that an academic examination of the form is irresponsible or abhorrent.
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Gyges posted:Goddamn FIFA 2014 players are the real problem. No-no, it's those macho men jock husks who play League of Legends and DotA competitively. 
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Lightanchor posted:I do take some pride in the fact that I can call myself a Game Designer and not feel like a liar. However, I also feel like a number of the “games” I’ve made aren’t Games (or even Puzzles, which can be considered their own form as well). I’m fine with that! To me, it’s not exclusively symptomatic of an unquestionably fascistic game culture. Certainly the popular notion of what constitutes a “game” (or, worse, a “gamer”) is far too restrictive, but that doesn’t mean that an academic examination of the form is irresponsible or abhorrent. source your quotes
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The Brown Menace posted:godDAMN I agree Django Unchained was a fine movie, although I think the German dude was better than the main character.
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CrazyLittle posted:Right, criticizing the harassment of Zoe Quinn must mean there's sexual favors involved. Got it. I guess random wives and girlfriends weighing in on Twitter is just part of the lie. Man, it looks like the story isn't "Horrible person uses her body for favors," and it's actually "A network of countless people have just put together the greatest and most intricate fabrication the internet has ever seen." Despite the woman at the center of all this not even denying what she did. You got me, man. My eyes are truly open.
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A great many pages earlier you were asking about CYOA games: https://www.choiceofgames.com/ Pretty fun stuff.
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Spiky Ooze posted:Because it isn't liberal. Should I have said neoliberal? I meant liberalism as accepting the framework of capitalism, reducing everything to identity politics, and demanding everybody stay in their proper place--affirming their right 'not to be harassed'. There's the system, and all reasonable people are to adhere to the system: the repressed concerns of the disenfranchised are 'terroristic'.
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CrazyLittle posted:Eron Gonji dumped Zoe. By your logic that makes him the abuser. Oh, I get it, you're illiterate. Why are you so obsessed with Zoe Quinn? Why can't you stop talking about her? CrazyLittle posted:Right, criticizing the harassment of Zoe Quinn must mean there's sexual favors involved. Got it.  You for real can't read.
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The Taint Reaper posted:source your quotes http://gamasutra.com/blogs/DevinWilson/20130411/190328/Whats_in_a_Game.php
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CrazyLittle posted:Right, criticizing the harassment of Zoe Quinn must mean there's sexual favors involved. Got it. Zoe is talentless and gets her money from internet/real-life whoring. Confirm/Deny?
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CrazyLittle posted:Eron Gonji dumped Zoe. By your logic that makes him the abuser.  can you go back and reread what I wrote/you quoted please, unless you didn't misread me and instead you're suggesting that the act of breaking up with someone is itself abusive
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Paladinus posted:No-no, it's those macho men jock husks who play League of Legends and DotA competitively. I didn't know they played live action Sesame Street One of These Things at DotA tournaments. Kind of cheating to also have him holding an orange.
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CrazyLittle posted:So if given the chance to stop the next Elliot Rodgers given a credible and tangible threat... you would do nothing? I'm not saying that abusers should be exempt from ramifications. I'm saying that witch hunts on twitter/4chan/reddit/sa/pa are not acceptable answers. You're trying to setup some magical scenario where it's justifiable to inflict harm under the guise of retaliation, and that's just making excuses for harassment. nice form
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