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The stupid grin from hitting a shelldock with another shelldock.
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Speed vs Cunning is on Gatherer. gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Search/Default.aspx?action=advanced&set=[%22Duel%20Decks:%20Speed%20vs.%20Cunning%22]
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Sep 1, 2014 21:43
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Sleep of Bronze posted:Speed vs Cunning is on Gatherer. I've been getting runtime errors from gatherer all day.
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Sep 1, 2014 21:57
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Oraculum Animi posted:I've been getting runtime errors from gatherer all day. Same here. I'm glad it isn't just my computer.
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Sep 1, 2014 22:06
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wildfire1 posted:Could someone link me to this please? http://instagram.com/p/sWeEtGlqM1/
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Sep 1, 2014 22:25
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I'm gutted not to be able to watch dzyl forcing storm on stream anymore. Hopefully they continue to support it in holiday cube.
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Sep 1, 2014 22:26
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I'm confused as to why storm being a "trap" in cube was a problem. The target audience for online Cube is, after all, reasonably well connected and informed (even if still not good at drafting) Magic players. If they, or pros doing a gimmick, want to try and force storm and probably scrub out, why not more power to them? I could see an argument from there being not enough space for the other decks' cards in the cube, but I haven't ever perceived that as a problem in the MTGO cube specifically. It always seems like an embarrassment of riches when it comes to playables for pretty much any seat at the table.
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Sep 1, 2014 22:31
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So, it looks like the duel deck is more of a clash pack? Unless the Arcanis deck is supposed to also be three colors, Lightning Angel is kind of hard to get out.
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Sep 1, 2014 22:40
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What is the difference between clash packs and duel decks anyway?
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Sep 1, 2014 22:42
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Gensuki posted:So, it looks like the duel deck is more of a clash pack? Unless the Arcanis deck is supposed to also be three colors, Lightning Angel is kind of hard to get out. The Duel Decks are both 3-color it's just that Arcanis is the cover card for the Cunning deck. Ramos posted:What is the difference between clash packs and duel decks anyway? Clash Packs are taking the place of Event Decks every 2 sets. The next one we'll see is for Fate Reforged aka Sarkhan and Sorin's Excellent Adventure. Cernunnos fucked around with this message at 22:47 on Sep 1, 2014 |
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Sep 1, 2014 22:45
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Ramos posted:What is the difference between clash packs and duel decks anyway? Duel decks are separate decks while a clash pack can be separate decks or take specific cards from each to combine them into a more powerful deck.
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Sep 1, 2014 22:46
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Gensuki posted:So, it looks like the duel deck is more of a clash pack? Unless the Arcanis deck is supposed to also be three colors, Lightning Angel is kind of hard to get out. It's specifically Mardu vs Jeskai. They are definitely three colours.
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Sep 1, 2014 22:46
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Regarding the cube, it seems weird that they cut a lot of the fixing lands in order to insert multi-colored cards that would enjoy those fixing lands.
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Sep 1, 2014 23:15
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So my friend told me that certain cards in the upcoming duel deck aren't going to be legal in standard? For example, I wouldn't be able to use Goblin Warchief in my red deck because he came out during Onslaught. And if my friend's correct, why is it the case?
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Sep 1, 2014 23:51
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Crusaderking posted:So my friend told me that certain cards in the upcoming duel deck aren't going to be legal in standard? For example, I wouldn't be able to use Goblin Warchief in my red deck because he came out during Onslaught. And if my friend's correct, why is it the case? Duel Decks are used to reprint cards regardless of the current format; if they were automatically legal in the current format, it would severely limit their ability to reprint because there are often cards in them they don't want in Standard.
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Sep 1, 2014 23:54
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Sleep of Bronze posted:Speed vs Cunning is on Gatherer. Gatherer now works and I have to say the new Fleshbag Marauder art is pretty nice.
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Sep 1, 2014 23:56
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Crusaderking posted:So my friend told me that certain cards in the upcoming duel deck aren't going to be legal in standard? For example, I wouldn't be able to use Goblin Warchief in my red deck because he came out during Onslaught. And if my friend's correct, why is it the case? Only cards that get printed in expansions are standard legal. Supplimental products aren't a part of that. Otherwise MMA and CNS would be standard legal, and that would be crazy.
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Sep 2, 2014 00:00
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Dr. Stab posted:Only cards that get printed in expansions are standard legal. Supplimental products aren't a part of that. Otherwise MMA and CNS would be standard legal, and that would be crazy. Clash Packs though are standard legal because they consist entirely of cards from recent sets.
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Sep 2, 2014 00:08
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Crusaderking posted:So my friend told me that certain cards in the upcoming duel deck aren't going to be legal in standard? For example, I wouldn't be able to use Goblin Warchief in my red deck because he came out during Onslaught. And if my friend's correct, why is it the case? Magic has a lot of "secondary products" that are usually made completely of reprints. Commander decks, Duel Decks, From the Vault - all of these are not "core releases" and do not affect what is in Standard at all. The core releases (currently) come out 4 times a year - three expansions and then a core set in the summer.
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Sep 2, 2014 00:22
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Lord Of Texas posted:Magic has a lot of "secondary products" that are usually made completely of reprints. Commander decks, Duel Decks, From the Vault - all of these are not "core releases" and do not affect what is in Standard at all. The core releases (currently) come out 4 times a year - three expansions and then a core set in the summer. After M16, this will change to two expansions, followed by a different two expansions.
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Sep 2, 2014 00:31
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Sleep of Bronze posted:Speed vs Cunning is on Gatherer. Its actually been there for a week or so.
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Sep 2, 2014 00:52
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Does the two blocks a year thing actually change the product schedule though, besides flipping the big summer set with the small summer set? I mean right now we have (approximations since I know they're changing the dates a little moving forward - actually could someone else confirm this, I feel like the prereleases moved up a week for khans/fate?) Set 1 - Big Fall Additional product slot 1 - Early winter, currently commander decks Set 2 - Small winter Additional product slot 2 - Planeswalkers from previous block Duel decks in March I believe? Set 3 - Small late spring, changing to Big set when the changes go in Additional product slot 3 - Planechase/MM/etc, Modern masters 2 in 2015 most likely*, was Conspiracy this year Set 4 - Summer core set, changing to small set when the changes go in Additional product slot 4 - FTV, mid august Additional product slot 5 - Duel decks idea vs idea, end of summer I know they hinted at adding another product for "beginners" and clash/event decks ship with their respective sets, well, a few weeks later. (Clash will be with small sets after the change?) Any other major changes shown? I may have dozed off a little during Maro's article. * I don't believe this has been confirmed at all other than stuff they said before the first MMA shipped about "if it successful it could..."
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Sep 2, 2014 00:54
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Well for one a big block set is pretty different from a core set- it'll have a full set of new mechanics instead of the one returning mechanic of core sets.
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Sep 2, 2014 01:01
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We don't actually know how the two block paradigm is going to affect the release schedules in 2016 when it starts in earnest. Set releases are a little earlier than usual for KTK block, though.
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Sep 2, 2014 01:22
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Is there some problem with Bestow or Constellation that meant they couldn't be allowed to exist without being essentially being ready hosed come rotation? Is there any chance End Hostilities and Back to Nature will just prove to be as impotent as Notion Thief was? I just don't appreciate them ruling out fun potential decks with a card each when no problem appears to exist.
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Sep 2, 2014 01:38
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BizarroAzrael posted:Is there some problem with Bestow or Constellation that meant they couldn't be allowed to exist without being essentially being ready hosed come rotation? Is there any chance End Hostilities and Back to Nature will just prove to be as impotent as Notion Thief was? I just don't appreciate them ruling out fun potential decks with a card each when no problem appears to exist. No-one runs Back to Nature, and no-one ever will unless an enchantment-based strategy becomes top-tier instead of just a fun-yet-bad deck. End Hostilities is more problematic, though I think just being a 5-mana sweeper rather than a 4-mana one is going to make creatureless control not really viable unless aggro decks are really slow post-rotation.
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Sep 2, 2014 01:57
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BizarroAzrael posted:Is there some problem with Bestow or Constellation that meant they couldn't be allowed to exist without being essentially being ready hosed come rotation? Is there any chance End Hostilities and Back to Nature will just prove to be as impotent as Notion Thief was? I just don't appreciate them ruling out fun potential decks with a card each when no problem appears to exist. They tend to overcorrect for potential problems in the form of hosers. Creeping Corrosion, Grafdigger's Cage, Rest in Peace, and Stony Silence all solved problems that didn't really exist. Skylasher would have solved a problem if rotation hadn't completely murdered Delver.
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Sep 2, 2014 02:04
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BizarroAzrael posted:Is there some problem with Bestow or Constellation that meant they couldn't be allowed to exist without being essentially being ready hosed come rotation? Is there any chance End Hostilities and Back to Nature will just prove to be as impotent as Notion Thief was? I just don't appreciate them ruling out fun potential decks with a card each when no problem appears to exist. I think it's pretty safe to run the Constellation deck if you really want to. No one is playing Back to Nature in their sideboards. The G/B Dredge deck, which is more powerful and more popular, gets almost as equally hosed by Rest in Peace, and yet no one playing it is worried about that because they know they'll never run into it.
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Sep 2, 2014 02:09
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Poor Skylasher, came out almost exactly a year too late.
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Sep 2, 2014 02:10
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I feel like no one playing Back to Nature isn't the point, the best you can hope for from Constellation is to get it to the point people start siding it. With Bestow, there was already Silence the Believers, which I thought might make it into standard to kill Sarkhan dragons, after seeing so many Jund Walker decks yesterday. I'm really not looking forward to him and Nissa together, I don't think Vraska will be missed by that deck much.
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Sep 2, 2014 02:25
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The idea behind these hosers is that wizards can't predict what will be dominant when they're making the sets, so having silver bullet cards that aren't needed is a lot better than having to fix standard through banning.
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Sep 2, 2014 02:34
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Attorney at Funk posted:We don't actually know how the two block paradigm is going to affect the release schedules in 2016 when it starts in earnest. Set releases are a little earlier than usual for KTK block, though. Which means I'll be ringing in my 40th Birthday playing the last round of a Fate Reforged prerelease. I don't know if that's awesome or not.
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Sep 2, 2014 02:35
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More importantly: printing strong hosers to FFL hosers while they're still new doesn't really cost them anything. There might be a few people upset, but nobody is going to quit magic just because a strong counter exists to a new mechanic. I would rather have 10 Rest in Peaces than one Delver (or BBE into Blightning, or JTMS, or Stoneforge Mystic, etc)
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Dr. Stab posted:The idea behind these hosers is that wizards can't predict what will be dominant when they're making the sets, so having silver bullet cards that aren't needed is a lot better than having to fix standard through banning. Hosers aren't intended to just completely invalidate decks, but provide potential answers. A Wrath of God is an answer to creatures, but it's not exactly a complete hoser for creature decks. It does force creature decks to be built around the possibility that decks could run Wraths or have strategies that include them. Just like how Tormod's Crypt being in M15 doesn't magically invalidate all graveyard based decks. Nobody is running Return to Nature, nobody is running Silence the Believers.
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Sep 2, 2014 02:39
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BizarroAzrael posted:I feel like no one playing Back to Nature isn't the point, the best you can hope for from Constellation is to get it to the point people start siding it. Constellation doesn't have enough going for it to begin with to convince people to play dedicated sideboard hate. And even if it were, Sphinx's Revelation and Notion Thief have coexisted for sixteen months or so, Sphinx's Revelation decks have regularly been among the best decks in the format in that time, and Notion Thief saw almost no sideboard play despite being less specific hate than Back to Nature (hell, it can swing if you've got nothing else to do). Back to Nature being monocolored is not nearly enough, IMO, to make up for Constellation being well below UWx control's power level. Just play Constellation if you like it, and stop worrying that the sky is going to fall.
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Sep 2, 2014 02:39
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Zorak posted:Hosers aren't intended to just completely invalidate decks, but provide potential answers. A Wrath of God is an answer to creatures, but it's not exactly a complete hoser for creature decks. It does force creature decks to be built around the possibility that decks could run Wraths or have strategies that include them. Well, yeah. It just prevents any given deck from being overwhelmingly dominant, because then you show up to the tournament with the anti-deck, and then next week there's anti-anti-decks, and suddenly you've got a healthy meta again.
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Sep 2, 2014 02:46
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Yeah it's bad practice (not to mention bad for your mood) to get discouraged by the existence of theoretical hoser cards. Remember how Deicide was supposed to keep people from ever touching Mono-Blue Devotion again? Rest in Peace didn't keep Unburial Rites from being an incredibly strong build-around for the entirety of INN-RTR Standard (including a solid run as the de facto best deck in the format). Cheer up!
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Sep 2, 2014 02:47
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quote:Just play Constellation if you like it, and stop worrying that the sky is going to fall. Nice. 
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Sep 2, 2014 03:31
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Why is VMA stuff spiking today? Did they announce its end or something, or is it just normal go and flow?
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The March Hare posted:Why is VMA stuff spiking today? Did they announce its end or something, or is it just normal go and flow? At a casual guess? Fetchlands being reprinted. Old fetches were crazy expensive on MODO, which drove up the prices of the new ones as well. With the price of both set to deflate, the costs of everything else will rise thanks to MTGFinance + new players. One Polluted Delta costs very slightly less than 3 Underground Seas, for example. Niton fucked around with this message at 03:56 on Sep 2, 2014 |
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