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if only there were some standalone pack of updates that they could offer to vanilla installs maybe as a part of some service
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flakeloaf posted:if only there were some standalone pack of updates that they could offer to vanilla installs lol if this even gets you half way through on windows 7 anymore
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flakeloaf posted:if only there were some standalone pack of updates that they could offer to vanilla installs
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duTrieux. posted:nah, people take focus groups really seriously. its weird the problem with focus groups is that they listen to the people in them, not studying why they're having those reactions in the first place
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computer parts posted:wasn't it just a link to a webpage in xp
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my fave thing in windows update is the progress bar that doesn't show progress just a rectangle moving from left to right for an indefinite amount of time
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Metrication posted:my fave thing in windows update is the progress bar that doesn't show progress just a rectangle moving from left to right for an indefinite amount of time
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flakeloaf posted:if only there were some standalone pack of updates that they could offer to vanilla installs
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HAIL eSATA-n posted:the first of many windows phone apps
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mod sassinator posted:wasn't UAC horribly broken by just changing the name of your executable and getting instant admin privileges? the bug is with the default mode for UAC with Win7 is one notch above full (unlike vista which was full on/off). in the default mode, it keeps a list of common built-in apps and auto-elevates them without going through the prompt. UNFORTUNATELY, it does gently caress-all for check for code signatures and stupid poo poo like notepad.exe gets elevated so basically if you rename some malicious app to notepad.exe and run it under the userspace it will auto elevate and boom full system rights. its stupid as hell and microsoft has openly said they will not be fixing it because they are fuckers and if you're going to use UAC you should have the slider cranked all the way up http://www.pretentiousname.com/misc/win7_uac_whitelist2.html BangersInMyKnickers fucked around with this message at 19:40 on Sep 2, 2014 |
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Sep 2, 2014 19:31
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BangersInMyKnickers posted:the bug is with the default mode for UAC with Win7 is one notch above full (unlike vista which was full on/off). in the default mode, it keeps a list of common built-in apps and auto-elevates them without going through the prompt. UNFORTUNATELY, it does gently caress-all for check for code signatures and stupid poo poo like notepad.exe gets elevated so basically if you rename some malicious app to notepad.exe and run it under the userspace it will auto elevate and boom full system rights. its stupid as hell and microsoft has openly said they will not be fixing it because they are fuckers and if you're going to use UAC you should have the slider cranked all the way up sweet gonna rename all my sub7 servers to notepad.exe
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BangersInMyKnickers posted:the bug is with the default mode for UAC with Win7 is one notch above full (unlike vista which was full on/off). in the default mode, it keeps a list of common built-in apps and auto-elevates them without going through the prompt. UNFORTUNATELY, it does gently caress-all for check for code signatures and stupid poo poo like notepad.exe gets elevated so basically if you rename some malicious app to notepad.exe and run it under the userspace it will auto elevate and boom full system rights. its stupid as hell and microsoft has openly said they will not be fixing it because they are fuckers and if you're going to use UAC you should have the slider cranked all the way up wait, what? I was under the impression they whitelisted specific Microsoft .exe signatures and then didn't bother to do anything to prevent any kind of code injection, this is even more hilariously worse
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Metrication posted:my fave thing in windows update is the progress bar that doesn't show progress just a rectangle moving from left to right for an indefinite amount of time my fave is when it suddenly winks out into a system tray icon which does actually show the progress as a percentage in the tooltip when you hover it and if you click the icon it may or may not reopen the windows update screen which may or may not show a progress meter
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some guy at ms who hates his life (so all of them) probably threw it out there as a proof of concept on a friday and his project manager was like "cool thats done. now you're on the windows experience index team".
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yeah I am honestly surprised that more malware isn't using it as a way to silently elevate to system. its probably easy for AV to pick up the elevation payload but my vendor only sees it as an optional "potentially unwanted application" detection so I'm sure lots are blind to it.
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THC posted:my fave is when it suddenly winks out into a system tray icon which does actually show the progress as a percentage in the tooltip when you hover it and if you click the icon it may or may not reopen the windows update screen which may or may not show a progress meter and the percentage doesn't really update in any consistent manner so it'll be 39% for 12 minutes and then 80%
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Sep 2, 2014 20:15
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p sure it's only based on the number of updates, so if updates 1-15 are tiny hotfixes and update 16 is a giant patch bundle it'll race to 90% and sit there
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pretty sure accurate progress bars are one of the most monumental problems in computer science
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qirex posted:pretty sure accurate progress bars are one of the most monumental problems in computer science time travel to the future where the install is complete so you know when it finishes, go back in time and adjust the progress bar change rate in consequence. easy!
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some more windows gripes from my list Scrolling is dependent on focus, so hovering over something and scrolling doesn't work, and when you try scroll your browser on monitor 2, it might actually scroll your Outlook on monitor 1, beucase that's the last thing you clicked. Everything uses nested pop-ups. Creating an Outlook search folder opens a New Search Folder pop-up, creating a custom search opens Custome Search Folder pop-up over that, then creating criteria opens Search Folder Criteria over that. Creating a new folder also creates a pop-up instead of creating a folder with a temporary name like "New Folder". Categories in the menu show a colored graphic next to the words "Blue Category", "Red Category", etc. Why not just show the colour or at least drop the word "Category" since the menu is called "Categories". After searching for a name to add in an Outlook Search Folder, it will automatically add the first result. In Lync, hovering over a user's name in a chat will show information and options, but hovering over the display picture next to it will not. The reminders app only runs within Outlook. So if you close Outlook and leave Lync open, you won’t be reminded of any of your Lync meetings.
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any application can hijack focus at any time. what a lovely feature for generating a predictable user experience.
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Clockwerk posted:any application can hijack focus at any time. what a lovely feature for generating a predictable user experience. well you see gently caress the user
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Just-In-Timeberlake posted:well you see gently caress the user don't quote sybian marketing material
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univbee posted:time travel to the future where the install is complete so you know when it finishes, go back in time and adjust the progress bar change rate in consequence. easy! the solution early os x had for the boot progress bar sounds crazy but was actually really smart
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SO DEMANDING posted:it gets even better when you install office, that easily doubles the amount of updates needed on a fresh install the office viewers do that as well
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qirex posted:pretty sure accurate progress bars are one of the most monumental problems in computer science
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FMguru posted:
that is more than 9 windows
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thats gotta be some fanart
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they should call the 9th windows windows 12
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created by a nine year old
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windows nine different product managers
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FMguru posted:
please let this be real
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how long before ms is dragged into a legal case somewhere over the fact that another company has trademarked the number nine or something
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it's real
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MeruFM posted:it's real no way
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it;s not real
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32MB OF ESRAM posted:they should call the 9th windows windows 12 they called the 9th windows windows 7 already though 
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that logo is real in the sense that microsoft china really did post it but it's fake in the sense that it's an ugly fanmade wallpaper from last january
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