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loquacius posted:Got really confused for a second when I realized this wasn't the bad webcomics thread. The bad webcomic thread is currently debating something something entrance of women into the workforce something something misogyny, so the confusion goes both ways. Guess  comic messes with the streams.
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Internet Webguy posted:All the cool people identify by illegal things to consume. I still remember when I realized no one knew why we were drinking PBR.
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Sep 2, 2014 20:51
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Cheekio posted:I still remember when I realized no one knew why we were drinking PBR. It's relatively inexpensive, and can be bought anywhere?
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Sep 2, 2014 20:55
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Cheekio posted:I still remember when I realized no one knew why we were drinking PBR. Identification with Frank Booth and the pure American id https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5VU8GJcg24
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Sep 2, 2014 20:57
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ReindeerF posted:A long series of unfortunate coincidences involving work, friends inbound from the US, a wife with jetlag and insomnia. DON'T REMOVE MY AGENCY THO. Oh and a good friend and co-worker who is in the US right now in DC and wonders what to do other than bars. Smithsonian4lief Cheekio posted:I still remember when I realized no one knew why we were drinking PBR. Union made, union distributed, union strong.
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Sep 2, 2014 21:01
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Yeah, that's exactly what I recommended. The ensuing conversation would make an entire sitcom script, but the LF folks would ruin the re-telling, so I'll save it for the local goons who know Southeast Asia. In any case, she'll be visiting the Smithsonian. I think that's the most accessible recommendation for international people, especially people from countries with no historical connection to Western stuff. The rest of the things on The National Mall don't really mean much (e.g. Jefferson Monument, Vietnam Memorial, etc). I loved all thay when I lived there, went to the Smithsonian like 4-5 times, Arlington National several times, you name it. I love DC, other than the people.
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Sep 2, 2014 21:07
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ReindeerF posted:the LF folks would ruin the re-telling anyway, i don't even know where you could be headed with this or what you're even saying, so... is lf short for something else this time? would that make sense? probably not.
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Sep 2, 2014 21:24
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also i barely slept last night and made the mistake of taking a nap/passing out in the middle of the day and now i feel like poo poo and i won't be able to sleep for hours
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Sep 2, 2014 21:26
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R. Mute posted:so in a way, by LF folks you mean non-horrible people and, heck, that's me, so i do feel targeted. I'm not sure about the non-horrible part, but in the civilised world you don't count as people as long as you refuse to capitalize the first word in a sentence.
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Sep 2, 2014 21:34
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HOW ABOUT I SWITCH TO ALL CAPS?
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Sep 2, 2014 21:37
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R. Mute posted:i wasn't even around for lf so i shouldn't feel targeted, but i keep getting the feeling like you say things like this every time you feel like saying some horrible poo poo but realise that people would object and you would be unable to respond, so you back out like a coward and throw in a snide remark like this. so in a way, by LF folks you mean non-horrible people and, heck, that's me, so i do feel targeted. Turns out that people who constantly whine about LF years after it was closed, much like those that whine about "SJW's" claim they are just making GBS threads on the 'bad ones' but really just have terrible opinions and didn't like being called out on them. I was never really a very active LF poster either, but it helps if you just read what people post as LeFtist as that is the meaning. Not a whole lot of folks whining about the white-noise contrarians when they say that stuff.
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Sep 2, 2014 21:38
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R. Mute posted:HOW ABOUT I SWITCH TO ALL CAPS? Better. At least now I'm not reminded of Elfriede Jelinek anymore.
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Sep 2, 2014 21:40
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Randler posted:Better. At least now I'm not reminded of Elfriede Jelinek anymore.
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R. Mute posted:HOW ABOUT I SWITCH TO ALL CAPS? NOW THIS IS THE LF THAT I REMEMBER, FOR THE 2 WEEKS BEFORE IT WENT TO ABSOLUTE poo poo (and got the SS investigsting)
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Sep 2, 2014 21:57
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When people post in no caps it makes me think of Roast Beef so I automatically try harder to see what they're trying to say. It's all right there buddy, I'm listening to you. 
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actually, come to think of it, i probably was lurking during the last few weeks of lf. i actually just took way to long to find one of the first threads i read - the ben biddick thread - and that's from july 2009, so lf was probably still around then, right?
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R. Mute posted:also i barely slept last night and made the mistake of taking a nap/passing out in the middle of the day and now i feel like poo poo and i won't be able to sleep for hours I wonder if it's a biological thing that some people wake up from midday naps feeling amazing and others wake up pissed and feeling like garbage? Sorry about your bad genes 
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Sep 2, 2014 22:16
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Wolfsheim posted:I wonder if it's a biological thing that some people wake up from midday naps feeling amazing and others wake up pissed and feeling like garbage? Sorry about your bad genes It might depend if there were a cat sitting on you. It seems to make a difference.
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Sep 2, 2014 22:17
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Wolfsheim posted:I wonder if it's a biological thing that some people wake up from midday naps feeling amazing and others wake up pissed and feeling like garbage? Sorry about your bad genes I have a hell of a hard time falling asleep during the day, honestly. Gotta be super exhausted to even manage it at all, most of the time.
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Randler posted:I'm not sure about the non-horrible part, but in the civilised world you don't count as people as long as you refuse to capitalize the first word in a sentence. Jesus loving Christ
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Sep 2, 2014 22:25
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i think i'm going to stop using caps on purpose now
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So one of my friends who I talk about politics with often tells me that I need to read Ayn Rand before I can criticize her philosophy. I'm always like "no I don't because I follow politics which has nine zillion idiots who say they got their ideas from Ayn Rand and said ideas are always terrible and sociopathic." Also I think at one point I said "Well do I have to read Mein Kampf to criticize its philosophy?" Also more importantly there is only a finite amount of books I can read in my life and I don't want to waste some of that number reading poo poo.
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Shear Modulus posted:So one of my friends who I talk about politics with often tells me that I need to read Ayn Rand before I can criticize her philosophy. I'm always like "no I don't because I follow politics which has nine zillion idiots who say they got their ideas from Ayn Rand and said ideas are always terrible and sociopathic." Also I think at one point I said "Well do I have to read Mein Kampf to criticize its philosophy?" How close are you to that friend? If it's "good friend" please help that person. If it's "aquaintance" be done with them. It takes way to much work to talk to a randian.
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Randler posted:I'm not sure about the non-horrible part, but in the civilised world you don't count as people as long as you refuse to capitalize the first word in a sentence. Something something inflexible Germans with a stick up their rear end about the rules something something.
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Zeitgueist posted:How close are you to that friend? If it's "good friend" please help that person. If it's "aquaintance" be done with them. It takes way to much work to talk to a randian. It's a good friend and he's actually fairly left-wing (he's a gay dude who's been fairly active in LGBT activism since he came out in college) and I've already dragged him further to the left in the couple of years I've known him. He's just trying to convince me that I need to read her before I can be informed and fair in criticizing her or her particular spin on it and I'm like "no I really don't." Shear Modulus fucked around with this message at 22:54 on Sep 2, 2014 |
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Sep 2, 2014 22:52
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show him that comic of rand's life someone made that shows her for the bitter idiot she was
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Wolfsheim posted:I wonder if it's a biological thing that some people wake up from midday naps feeling amazing and others wake up pissed and feeling like garbage? Sorry about your bad genes Don't nap for more than 30-35 minutes. 15-25 is usually all you need to feel better (depending on how tired you are). After 35 or so your body enters deep sleep and if you wake up after that you'll be groggy as hell. Start with 35 and try to work your way down to 25 or 20 minutes.
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Shear Modulus posted:So one of my friends who I talk about politics with often tells me that I need to read Ayn Rand before I can criticize her philosophy. I'm always like "no I don't because I follow politics which has nine zillion idiots who say they got their ideas from Ayn Rand and said ideas are always terrible and sociopathic." Also I think at one point I said "Well do I have to read Mein Kampf to criticize its philosophy?" "OK, then pay me to read it.  "
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If you and he cannot agree on a price he is willing to pay and you are willing to accept in compensation for spending your time reading Ayn Rand, then the market has decided that activity is not economically feasible. An alternate would be to convert her books to fuel.
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am i right in saying that 'social justice' was initially (like in the 60s/70s) just a euphemism for socialism, rather than referring to social progressivism like it does today?
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Exclamation Marx posted:am i right in saying that 'social justice' was initially (like in the 60s/70s) just a euphemism for socialism, rather than referring to social progressivism like it does today? socialism, racial equality, take your pick. it also came up in liberation theology
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Joementum posted:"OK, then pay me to read it. Joementum posted:If you and he cannot agree on a price he is willing to pay and you are willing to accept in compensation for spending your time reading Ayn Rand, then the market has decided that activity is not economically feasible. An alternate would be to convert her books to fuel. Heh this is golden. I thought I had gotten a good one with saying I don't need to read Hitler to criticize his political philosophy but now I've got another. Exclamation Marx posted:am i right in saying that 'social justice' was initially (like in the 60s/70s) just a euphemism for socialism, rather than referring to social progressivism like it does today? Well seeing how basically every form social injustice takes are products of power disparities inherent in non-socialist systems then yeah I guess socialism would be a good way to promote social justice.
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Exclamation Marx posted:am i right in saying that 'social justice' was initially (like in the 60s/70s) just a euphemism for socialism, rather than referring to social progressivism like it does today? Also social justice is mostly(but not always) used contemporarily as a pejorative term for people who don't disagree with the ideals of such. While social justice is an admirable thing to be fighting for, most folks considered "social justice" types will be talking about inequality or oppression.
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i ask because i've seen it used by working class conservative labourites during the 70s, i.e. people who were opposed to stuff like gay rights/abortion. i suppose its meaning has broadened since then to include those and other issues. i don't think i've ever seen 'social justice' by itself as a pejorative, only 'social justice warrior'. Always thought the latter started as a kind of eye-rolling thing towards transethnics/otherkin types but is now the new political correctness 
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Exclamation Marx posted:i don't think i've ever seen 'social justice' by itself as a pejorative, only 'social justice warrior'. Always thought the latter started as a kind of eye-rolling thing towards transethnics/otherkin types but is now the new political correctness No it's pretty much people who are against any sort of social justice complaining about it, and claiming that they just mean those types, but it turns out they trot out the SJW poo poo anytime anyone questions racism/sexism/bigotry. They claim they're just talking about obnoxious people but they use the term to shut down most conversations concerning social justice. Look at how often the term is being used by the folks who are on board with harassing Anita Sarkeesian. Also people who complain about political correctness are generally awful people to. Every generation has their term of contempt for those who call them on being assholes.
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I only deploy capital letters ITT when phone posting.
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Sep 3, 2014 01:17
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One account I had definitely got probation in D&D for not capitalizing. I'll blame McCaine, even though I can't remember who it was.
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Joementum posted:"OK, then pay me to read it. By the way, isn't it altruism to want people to become Objectivists? Shouldn't real titans prefer to dominate a host of ignorant collectivists, rather than converting them?
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SedanChair posted:By the way, isn't it altruism to want people to become Objectivists? Shouldn't real titans prefer to dominate a host of ignorant collectivists, rather than converting them? This is a great point, actually. True objectivist a should be pontificating 100% less. In fact, if they think that socialism is so bad and wrong and they could easily dominate the masses, they should be actively advocating for socialism, haha
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Badger of Basra posted:i think i'm going to stop using caps on purpose now On another note, did anyone do a clever mashup of the Ron Paul "It's Happening!" gif and The Fappening? Because with Ron Paul, nude celebrities, the internet, reddit and, you know, dicks, there was probably a multi-layered joke there, but I couldn't come up with it. ReindeerF fucked around with this message at 02:09 on Sep 3, 2014 |
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