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Babylon Astronaut posted:Then what exactly do you think the M stands for in the deck archetype typified by playing metalworker? The explanation I've found from looking it up online is that its called "MUD" because the original artifact frame is brown, the same say it used to be called "monobrown" on occasion.
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Monobrown is a cheap version of T$4KS. They aren't the same deck. Monobrown is a prison/control deck. MUD uses metalworker to crank out big threats. It came from a deck called 5/3 because it killed with juggernaut.
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Sep 3, 2014 03:39
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Babylon Astronaut posted:Then what exactly do you think the M stands for in the deck archetype typified by playing metalworker? The only result using 'MUD metalworker name origin' indicates that it was originally called 'Mono Blue Disruption' which accelerated out tangle wires, Thorn effects, and Juggernauts off of workshops and metalworkers, with Windfall, Recall, Time Walk, and Timetwister as the only colored spells.
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Sep 3, 2014 03:40
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Babylon Astronaut posted:Monobrown is a cheap version of T$4KS. They aren't the same deck. Monobrown is a prison/control deck. MUD uses metalworker to crank out big threats. It came from a deck called 5/3 because it killed with juggernaut. I'm not asking whether you think there's a different deck that's called "monobrown," I'm asking where you came up with "metalworker u dead" as the origin of that name, mostly because that doesn't sound very plausible. "Mono blue disruption" does, since it actually reflects what the deck does.
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Sep 3, 2014 03:42
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mcmagic posted:Is it just me or is Generator Servant terrible... You're basically giving up card advantage by playing it. While cards are a very important resource in MtG, they are far from the only resource that matters. quote:Getting the tempo advantage that same turn like you do with ritual seems like a giant difference. Rituals don't attack and block.
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Sep 3, 2014 03:51
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Lord Of Texas posted:While cards are a very important resource in MtG, they are far from the only resource that matters. Generator servant isn't nearly as good as a ritual.
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Sep 3, 2014 03:53
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mcmagic posted:Generator servant isn't nearly as good as a ritual. The standard in playability isn't Dark Ritual.
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Sep 3, 2014 03:55
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Generator Servant lets you cast your poo poo two turns earlier, so it's basically two Time Walks
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Sep 3, 2014 04:02
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mcmagic posted:Generator servant isn't nearly as good as a ritual. This is the second time you've been wrong about a card being bad today. Maybe you should stop. 
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Sep 3, 2014 04:06
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If you ARE going to play Miracles, practice a poo poo ton. Players that don't play Miracles quickly end up in the doomed draw bracket. Or just timing out in the case of MTGO.
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Sep 3, 2014 04:10
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Alaan posted:If you ARE going to play Miracles, practice a poo poo ton. Players that don't play Miracles quickly end up in the doomed draw bracket. Or just timing out in the case of MTGO. To be fair, a lot of the miracles in the draw bracket in real tournaments is because the B/G/x decks think they have a chance and spend forever tanking on what to do when they are just gonna lose regardless of what they try. Amusingly enough, the Miracles mirror is usually one of the fastest rounds on the order of 15 minutes or so.
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Sep 3, 2014 04:14
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JerryLee posted:Generator Servant lets you cast your poo poo two turns earlier, so it's basically two Time Walks Or, as I like to say, half a birds of paradise.
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Sep 3, 2014 04:18
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JerryLee posted:Generator Servant lets you cast your poo poo two turns earlier, so it's basically two Time Walks Since it grants haste, it's practically three, even.
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Sep 3, 2014 04:19
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Note that getting two creatures to get haste online required some creative tapping, as it will automatically assign all the mana to one guy. I'm not even sure it works, as every time I try to do it I tap incorrectly and lock myself into only casting one.
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Sep 3, 2014 04:50
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Sep 3, 2014 05:01
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Zorak posted:
I have an Assemble the Legion setup that will love this.
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Sep 3, 2014 05:02
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Zorak posted:
Hm. On the one hand, two 3/4 flyers for 5 mana is good, and one of the gains you some nice life, but... this doesn't quite feel like a mythic to me. Maybe I've just been spoiled lately.
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Sep 3, 2014 05:03
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It's a serviceable card, but I'm not seeing why it couldn't be a regular rare.
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Sep 3, 2014 05:06
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It's not quite Broodmate Dragon, but Dragon was 3 colors and an extra mana. It's a pretty drat good card I think.
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Sep 3, 2014 05:06
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The Lord of Hats posted:Hm. On the one hand, two 3/4 flyers for 5 mana is good, and one of the gains you some nice life, but... this doesn't quite feel like a mythic to me. Maybe I've just been spoiled lately. Yeah, but its also a Broodmate Dragon that only costs white mana... e: Beaten^^^
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Sep 3, 2014 05:06
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meanolmrcloud posted:Note that getting two creatures to get haste online required some creative tapping, as it will automatically assign all the mana to one guy. I'm not even sure it works, as every time I try to do it I tap incorrectly and lock myself into only casting one. Click the first creature you want to cast, tap your lands for all but one mana, click Generator Servant. Easy as that, you've cast the first creature and still have one mana from the Servant floating.
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Sep 3, 2014 05:07
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Rogue 7 posted:It's a serviceable card, but I'm not seeing why it couldn't be a regular rare. A 5 mana 6/8 with upsides is pretty drat good It's an awful lot of power toughness in the air, and if you flicker it you can keep triggering that ETB easily
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Sep 3, 2014 05:07
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Zorak posted:A 5 mana 6/8 with upsides is pretty drat good Any kind of flickering is going to be super ugly in this format between this guy and morph creatures. Currently that's just Skybind. Will that be good enough? I have an Abzan deck that's willing to try!
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Sep 3, 2014 05:10
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L0cke17 posted:Yeah, but its also a Broodmate Dragon that only costs white mana... Don't get me wrong, it's a very good card. It just doesn't seem Mythic to me; it's a variation on Broodmate Dragon which was a normal rare. I feel like a mythic really needs to try and make me stop and say 'wow', even if it's not particularly good. This isn't something every card can do, obviously, but this just feels kind of far off from that.
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Sep 3, 2014 05:11
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suicidesteve posted:I won my store's 20-something person modern tournament last night with this. It was the first time I had actually played the deck. Nice job. I've been testing out similar decks (the one I'm trying now has more non-basics and doesn't run sideboard in the side so you can fit Scooze into the main) and I feel like it might just be a tier 1 deck. L0cke17 posted:Yeah, but its also a Broodmate Dragon that only costs white mana... It's a broodmate dragon if you've already got a creature out. One of the powerful things about Broodmate was how it filled the board after a wrath, and this guy doesn't do that. Still not bad by any means but the comparison isn't completely there.
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Sep 3, 2014 05:11
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The Lord of Hats posted:Don't get me wrong, it's a very good card. It just doesn't seem Mythic to me; it's a variation on Broodmate Dragon which was a normal rare. I feel like a mythic really needs to try and make me stop and say 'wow', even if it's not particularly good. This isn't something every card can do, obviously, but this just feels kind of far off from that. It probably got pushed there because of the limited environment. I imagine that this will be difficult to kill, and a couple swings with it will put you way ahead even in a stalled board state in limited. At rare it probably just was too good.
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The Lord of Hats posted:Don't get me wrong, it's a very good card. It just doesn't seem Mythic to me; it's a variation on Broodmate Dragon which was a normal rare. I feel like a mythic really needs to try and make me stop and say 'wow', even if it's not particularly good. This isn't something every card can do, obviously, but this just feels kind of far off from that. Mythic didn't exist when broodmate came out.
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Sep 3, 2014 05:14
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Alaan posted:Mythic didn't exist when broodmate came out. Yes it did. In fact mythic started in the same block as broodmate. The shards block.
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Sep 3, 2014 05:15
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JerryLee posted:Generator Servant lets you cast your poo poo two turns earlier, so it's basically two Time Walks You're ignoring the cost of the mana you're playing it with and the card slot it takes up in your deck. There is a reason the card has seen zero competitive play. It isn't good.
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Sep 3, 2014 05:15
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Alaan posted:Mythic didn't exist when broodmate came out. Incorrect, Shards had planeswalkers at mythic, as well as Empyrial Archangel as well as a few other things.
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Sep 3, 2014 05:15
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Alaan posted:Mythic didn't exist when broodmate came out. It most certanly did, considering it was the first set with Mythics.
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The Lord of Hats posted:Hm. On the one hand, two 3/4 flyers for 5 mana is good, and one of the gains you some nice life, but... this doesn't quite feel like a mythic to me. Maybe I've just been spoiled lately. If a flying 6 power and 8 toughness for 5 mana isn't mythic what the hell is? This card is great.
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Sep 3, 2014 05:16
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Whoops..I swore mythic was a later shards set
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I think this fails the flavour test for mythics. I think this will be a 'myth' not a 'hit' when CFB do their little segment on thie set.
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Sep 3, 2014 05:20
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That's like the least "mythic" Mythic I've seen. I mean, even unplayable jank like Reap Intellect did something theoretically cool. So far we have an unplayable flavor artifact, 4 Khans of varying use that have strict on-color requirements, a copy-bird and 2 good but not world-beating walkers. Oh, and Temurchord. So far I'm not terribly impressed (since its going to be real hard to play the Khans because of the color restrictions) and I'm disappointed there's apparently a second cycle of clan-word Mythics since it seems a little clunky to just tack those keywords onto other cards. Obviously this is a very good, playable card. Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 05:28 on Sep 3, 2014 |
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Sep 3, 2014 05:23
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Don't people get that any card that makes multiple flying creatures is very good by now?
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Sep 3, 2014 05:24
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mcmagic posted:Don't people get that any card that makes multiple flying creatures is very good by now? Lingering Souls would've been a bad mythic too.
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Sep 3, 2014 05:25
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mcmagic posted:Don't people get that any card that makes multiple flying creatures is very good by now? Also would have made an awful mythic. Card quality isn't what people are bemoaning here.
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Sep 3, 2014 05:26
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mcmagic posted:Don't people get that any card that makes multiple flying creatures is very good by now? Hour of Need is looking mighty spicy post rotation.
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mcmagic posted:Don't people get that any card that makes multiple flying creatures is very good by now? I definitely think it's very good. It just doesn't feel mythic. Broodmate dragon feels more mythic just because it's a dragon.
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