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Ludicro posted:Eh, personally I never thought she should be in that cat suit anyway, even as a 15 year old at the time I could see right through that pandering to horny nerds. Should've been in a standard uniform like the women in DS9. Star Trek has always pandered to nerds by putting the women with the (perceived) best bodies in revealing uniforms. Deanna Troi in early TNG needed a truss and glue to hold her uniform on. The Feds have always had a multitude of uniforms both in canon and in STO. While I understand the reasons for doing so in STO (zen), I always thought that the only legitimate uniform variation should be time related.
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gently caress me those Fed ships are ugly. That sci ship with the ring.  I was really hoping they might go so far as to give the Klingons an actually decent science ship this round.
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Not gonna lie, I'm totally grabbing that pack once they let me buy it with zen.
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Lagomorphic posted:Not gonna lie, I'm totally grabbing that pack once they let me buy it with zen. I'm waiting for Cryptic to make their premium stuff direct cash purchase only and not through zen. Of course they could just shutdown the Z exchange. When it happens, ya'all will be thinking "oh poo poo, he was right."
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Ok, I logged in to ESD and some guy was talking about how people who take vaccines are dumb. Some good quotes: quote:[Zone #13] Syeevuj@sartt1: people getting flu sots, think they gonna build up resistance when the yputting a virus int oyouer body kind of backwardass thinking is that http://pastebin.com/GdyHBMdX I had to leave because... dumb. I'm really going to believe the scientific beliefs of a guy who can't even spell. Acer Pilot fucked around with this message at 06:46 on Sep 3, 2014 |
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Sep 3, 2014 06:35
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If I want a Klingon in a science ship and i'm not willing to blow the money on a lockbox or lobi ship, should I look at giving in and buying a DSD? As far as I can tell the other alternative is literally gearing a Bird of Prey with Sci skills. MikeJF fucked around with this message at 06:48 on Sep 3, 2014 |
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Sep 3, 2014 06:44
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The Gorn ships are straight up science vessels, and the Varanus was literally given away free yesterday, so...  Although honestly they're kinda mediocre, way too little tac. My klank sci's been messing around during the CCE event with a dyson ship and it works well enough there.CrushedWill posted:I'm waiting for Cryptic to make their premium stuff direct cash purchase only and not through zen. Of course they could just shutdown the Z exchange.
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Sep 3, 2014 06:56
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Don't forget the goon stipend too. In a few months you can get all of the ships.
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MikeJF posted:If I want a Klingon in a science ship and i'm not willing to blow the money on a lockbox or lobi ship, should I look at giving in and buying a DSD? The Vo'quv is pretty science heavy. You don't get sensor analysis but otherwise it's a solid science boat. The cheap but great BoP pets are really nice as well. The I use the fleet version on my science klank.
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Asimo posted:The Gorn ships are straight up science vessels, and the Varanus was literally given away free yesterday, so... Yeah, I looked at the Varanus and thought 'man, that is one meh-rear end ship'. I was hoping T6 would give us a reasonable Klank sci ship but I guess not. If I do get a DSD, I assume I should get the Tactical? Alternatively I can blow nine thousand zen on stuff I can sell to raise money for a temporalsci but so expensive. (It's what I really want to do but then I go 'wait, poo poo, 9k zen') MikeJF fucked around with this message at 07:53 on Sep 3, 2014 |
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Sep 3, 2014 07:41
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If you're thinking of getting a Dyson Science Destroyer, go for the one with the proton destabilizer module, it does pretty hilarious damage (I know because I own this ship). Would you be getting the klank temporal sci I can't remember what it's called, the Korath? If you like sci ships have you looked at the Voth Palisade Sci Ship?
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Also looks like the initial Delta Quadrant stuff is up on tribble. Not a lot, just the introductory missions and the already announced STF. Some observations... * The Weapon System Efficiency cruiser command seems gone entirely, and no ship I tested had access to it. Presumably a bug but who even knows. * The Advanced queue is hilariously painful even on a well-geared 50. Borg probes had 350k hull.  Hadn't tried the normal yet considering the hour and how hard it is to get queues popping, but it's pretty clear that the advanced queue for that is intended for 60's. And either gear will be scaling really really heavily, the new trait things will do a hell of a lot, or both.
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Asimo posted:* The Advanced queue is hilariously painful even on a well-geared 50. Borg probes had 350k hull. I'm getting flashbacks to Guild Wars 2. Every trash mob a health tank, corpse running the only effective strategy against bosses.
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Hmm. So the enemy has either caught up with or completely surpassed our power levels. There's bound to be people salivating over the 'challenge' and possibly over 'now people need to learn the game properly'. I wonder how crazy it'll be, especially for people who simply don't have the power that a lot of people have at present. Those ship specialisations they're re-introducing and ship skills are gonna have to do a lot of work, it seems. I find myself...concerned. I like carrier play, generally. Klingon is in Mirror Vo'Quv, Romulan is in Falchion, Fed is in Risian Cruiser but possesses an ordinary Obelisk. All will be obsoleted over time save the Scimitar(Zen Upgrade) and Risian(Free Upgrade). Bloodly fucked around with this message at 08:58 on Sep 3, 2014 |
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MikeJF posted:Yeah, I looked at the Varanus and thought 'man, that is one meh-rear end ship'. I was hoping T6 would give us a reasonable Klank sci ship but I guess not. 9k Zen worth of R&D packs roughly equals about 288 mil if sold at 8mil per R&D pack, so you could get based on the cheapest one on the exchange right now 270 mil, a temporal science vessel, or for about half the price, 110 mil a Voth Palisade Sci Vessel (it's a really good science ship which comes with a console that makes the ship itself an aceton assimilator so if you have that console already, double the aceton assimilator power). Hell if you bought the Palisade, you could buy the Bastion flight deck cruiser as well and get the immunity shield console from that ship and run the two piece which is a cloak. Or you could ignore everything I've said, wait for the expansion and buy some cool stuff in that.
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Sep 3, 2014 08:40
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Those fed ships look fabulous, what a shame I play KDF and have to make do with those sleek, elegant warships. Actually, the first thing that the fed skins reminded me of was the catbus so maybe the furries will take a more central stage with the fed exploration of the Delta quadrant.
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Sep 3, 2014 09:35
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Those fed ships boggle the mind, they're bringing out content based on the show but bringing in ships that don't even remotely look like federation vessels.
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Sep 3, 2014 09:58
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 Oh hey look, another ugly as gently caress ship.
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SKY COQ posted:
Hang on a tick  The one in the back there. This image is from like 2010. Were they so rushed for time they just pulled out all the rejected concepts? I swear to god the ring-saucer ship was a terrible idea from Perpetual's STO.
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Sep 3, 2014 11:23
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That said, the Guardian Cruiser might look decent if they have an alternative nacelle pylon option that moves them to a less derpy position. But they haven't really been doing alternative parts lately.
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Sep 3, 2014 11:26
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MikeJF posted:Hang on a tick
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Insert name here posted:Isn't that literally one of the exploration cruiser variants? Are they really going to recycle one of those, of all things? Huh, I guess you're right. It's one of the Galaxy Variants whose parts you can only use at T3 and as far as I can tell they didn't bother enabling at T5 when they released the retrofit versions because they were so horrible. But good enough for T6! (How come we don't have a :cryptic: emoticon?)
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Sep 3, 2014 11:37
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Looks like they are going for the old Ambassador concept - 
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Sep 3, 2014 11:41
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Thom12255 posted:Looks like they are going for the old Ambassador concept -  Nah, the guardian cruiser looks much worse.
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MikeJF posted:
I'd prefer this. Might as well look good when you are flying a piece of poo poo.
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Let's have a look at some of Cryptic's designs over the past few years.      And from here, things started to go wrong.    And my favourite, the USS Dildosquid  They keep inventing new models, which in one sense is fine if they need sales, but it feels like they ran out of ideas late last year and have just been floundering since.
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Sep 3, 2014 12:27
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I don't mind the escort's geometry, it looks like the Defiant and a Jem'Hadar Attack Ship had a baby together. What the hell is up with that ugly materials/textures choice for the new ships, though?
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I guess they're going for the stealthy faceted hull look on some of the Fed ships? I get the intent with the new Intel boffs and all that, but the execution is ... lacking.
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Sep 3, 2014 12:34
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I actually really like this one. It sort of reminds me of something you'd see from Sins of a Solar Empire.
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The Dyson Cruiser is one of the most ugly ships in anything ever, the texture is 50% of the problem.
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NurhacisUrn posted:
I'd quite like it if it was a Zantoblax Empire or whatever starship but it's a terrible Starfleet ship.
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The fed ships are atrocious, but the Romulan ships are loving amazing (the T6 and the Dyson are nuts). I can't think of a single Romulan ship that's a visual turd - even the worst ones (Haapax and crew) are miles ahead of the worst federation ships. And the Klingons are getting pretty good stuff too.
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DatonKallandor posted:I can't think of a single Romulan ship that's a visual turd - even the worst ones (Haapax and crew) are miles ahead of the worst federation ships.  (Personally I'd call the Ha'ships turds too, but nowhere near as bad as the D'ridthau. Also the Scim is horrible)
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The Dyson and Intelligence crusiers just don't match that Starfleet aesthetic. Federation ships are very curvy and rounded and don't have a lot of sharp edges. That crusier is very blocky and flat. As alien ships these would be fine, but they don't look like Federation ships at all.
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Sep 3, 2014 13:32
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If those three ships came out of a Section 31 lockbox or something I wouldn't bat an eyebrow.
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Sep 3, 2014 13:55
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Okay. Forget that one mid-tier escort, this one looks like you're flying a toilet seat.
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Bieeardo posted:Okay. Forget that one mid-tier escort, this one looks like you're flying a toilet seat. It does look like a toilet seat. It also makes me think of the Galaxy Quest ship somewhat. Does it come with red and blue particle cannons?
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Leaks page updated.
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They imply that there should be other hull materials for those ships, which... well, I think the escort'll look pretty good once it's in Starfleet white.
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MikeJF posted:They imply that there should be other hull materials for those ships, which... well, I think the escort'll look pretty good once it's in Starfleet white. If that's the case, I'll actually consider getting this lil space nugget.
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