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VelociBacon posted:Hey, I'm basically new to Zelda and want to play the best/newest one on wii-u. Is that skyward sword or wind waker? Thanks guys Best one to play on the Wii-U is Wind Waker. Being able to use the gamepad to swap items is a great feature.
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VelociBacon posted:Hey, I'm basically new to Zelda and want to play the best/newest one on wii-u. Is that skyward sword or wind waker? Thanks guys Wind Waker HD is a good starting point but I'd check out A Link To The Past first on the eShop if you're interested in classic top down Zelda.
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Sep 3, 2014 22:35
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Kilometers Davis posted:Wind Waker is the best but it's a GameCube remake. Sounds like this is the popular opinion. Thanks guys! Ps: gently caress motion controls
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Sep 3, 2014 22:47
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VelociBacon posted:Sounds like this is the popular opinion. Thanks guys! To be fair I found skyward sword to be very fun, and is one of my favprite zeldas. I also didn't have too much trouble with the motion controls. But man their idea to stylize the game based on watercolors was a terrible decision. But yeah start with windwaker, pick up twilight princess cause it's great, then try skyward sword if you feel like it. I recommend the game, but I guess it isn't as popular as I thought.
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Sep 3, 2014 22:53
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VelociBacon posted:Sounds like this is the popular opinion. Thanks guys! Actually this thread is full of big dumb babies who don't know how to hold a Wiimote. Skyward Sword is actually a much better game than Wind Waker in almost every aspect except for art style, and even then the HD remake actively sabotaged some of the coolest looking parts of Wind Waker. More useful answer: It depends what you like about Zelda. If you like dungeons and puzzle solving, go with Skyward Sword. If you like exploring a big overworld and doing sidequests, you'll probably prefer Wind Waker. If you like combat, it depends on how patient you can be to learn Skyward Sword's motion controls (it takes five minutes but that requires more patience than most goons have I guess).
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Sep 3, 2014 22:57
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mancalamania posted:More useful answer: It depends what you like about Zelda. If you like dungeons and puzzle solving, go with Skyward Sword. If you like exploring a big overworld and doing sidequests, you'll probably prefer Wind Waker. If you like combat, it depends on how patient you can be to learn Skyward Sword's motion controls (it takes five minutes but that requires more patience than most goons have I guess). Honestly I've never beaten any Zelda (I think I got sorta far on a gameboy one) and haven't played one in the last 5 years. I play usually more involved strategy stuff and competitive shooters on PC and just want to see what all the Zelda love is about.
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Sep 3, 2014 23:09
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More like it takes five minutes to learn how bad the motion controls are 
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Sep 3, 2014 23:18
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Windwaker is the only good 3D zelda game (maybe majora's mask).
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Sep 3, 2014 23:19
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Skyward Sword is the 2nd best Zelda game, behind only Majora's Mask.
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Sep 3, 2014 23:20
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Skyward Sword looks really good but plays like poo poo so you're wrong.
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Sep 3, 2014 23:21
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Actually, many people who enjoy Zelda combat hate Skyward Sword's combat because, to them, it's just a series of boring "puzzles" - commonly considered analogous with Simon Says. I enjoy the combat in Skyward Sword a fair bit, especially when it comes to beating the hell out of Demise by furiously waving around your right arm and rhythmically thrusting your left arm. Other than that, Skyward Sword's "overworld" is grossly sparse, even though its main town is one of the best in the series and its inter-dungeon content is also fairly above the series average especially when compared to Ocarina of Time (if you enjoy mostly linear but generally interestingly-designed challenges, as I do). That said, it does, like any of the other games, like to pad a little bit, and its padding is some of the most atrocious because of how dowsing works. I'd say that Wind Waker offers at least a little more freedom, and, perhaps more importantly depending on who you are, a little more intrigue as you traverse the world. I also think that the quality-of-life changes made to WW in the Wii U version remove a fair number of issues with the game's pace, whereas you need a series of cheats to fix some of the issues with Skyward Sword's pace. I also think that SS's artstyle is gorgeous, just... not at native resolution.
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Sep 3, 2014 23:21
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Twilight Princess has an apt acronym and should have never scored above a 7.
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Sep 3, 2014 23:22
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OoT is boring as poo poo with ugly art direction and textures that made it look outdated on release.
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Sep 3, 2014 23:23
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Really dude if you've never zelda'd before get twilight princess. It's very solid and one of the better zelda games. Skyward sword has some control issues, so you may not like that. Windwaker has the issue of its main land being a sea so everything is a boat ride. Yeah the hd update made that better, but it doesn't stop it from still being a huge boat ride.
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Sep 3, 2014 23:26
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Ah, the zelda cycle.
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Sep 3, 2014 23:26
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virtualboyCOLOR posted:OoT is boring as poo poo with ugly art direction and textures that made it look outdated on release. You must not remember what games looked like when it came out. Bobnumerotres posted:Ah, the zelda cycle. I liked Skyward Sword the first time I played it and still dislike Twilight Princess.
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Sep 3, 2014 23:26
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The answer is Link to The Past. It's always Link to The Past.
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Sep 3, 2014 23:26
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The controls in Skyward Sword are fine, it's the unskippable tutorials Fi gives you every five seconds that's terrible.
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Sep 3, 2014 23:27
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Spacebump posted:You must not remember what games looked like when it came out. Like green and brown smeared poo poo. It was and boring and ugly even then. Metal Gear Solid came out the same year and looks amazing. Link to the Past had amazing art direction and more than 2 colors.
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Sep 3, 2014 23:27
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virtualboyCOLOR posted:Like green and brown smeared poo poo. It was and boring. Link to the Past had amazing art direction and more than 2 colors. Man, you can say a lot about TOOT but "it only had two colors" is hilariously inaccurate.
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Sep 3, 2014 23:28
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Mercury Crusader posted:The controls in Skyward Sword are fine, it's the unskippable tutorials Fi gives you every five seconds that's terrible. Oh my gosh yes, I forgot about that. Also yeah Link to the Past is the best but I think the dude wants a 3d one.
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Sep 3, 2014 23:29
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ImpAtom posted:Man, you can say a lot about TOOT but "it only had two colors" is hilariously inaccurate. I forgot yellow snow piss. Apologies.
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Sep 3, 2014 23:29
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Sprite141 posted:Oh my gosh yes, I forgot about that. A link between worlds then.
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Sep 3, 2014 23:30
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Why hasn't anybody recommended Zelda II? I recommend Zelda II. It's a good game if you aren't a modern games baby.
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Sep 3, 2014 23:31
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Mercury Crusader posted:The controls in Skyward Sword are fine, it's the unskippable tutorials Fi gives you every five seconds that's terrible. Ironically, I think 90% of the issues people have with the gameplay is that the swinging mechanic is poorly explained and the Bokoblins' blocking mechanics gently caress with your intuition; not that the Wii Motion+ is unreliable. Linear Zoetrope fucked around with this message at 23:35 on Sep 3, 2014 |
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Sep 3, 2014 23:31
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virtualboyCOLOR posted:Like green and brown smeared poo poo. It was and boring and ugly even then. Metal Gear Solid came out the same year and looks amazing. Link to the Past had amazing art direction and more than 2 colors. Two other big releases that came out around the time OoT was released. (Turok 2 and Tomb Raider III)   virtualboyCOLOR posted:Like green and brown smeared poo poo. It was and boring and ugly even then. Metal Gear Solid came out the same year and looks amazing. Link to the Past had amazing art direction and more than 2 colors. 
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Sep 3, 2014 23:32
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Mercury Crusader posted:Why hasn't anybody recommended Zelda II? Alright come on in no way is that a good recommendation for someone who "wants to see what the Zelda love is all about". Literally every other Zelda would be a better first Zelda than that one.
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Sep 3, 2014 23:32
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Mercury Crusader posted:Why hasn't anybody recommended Zelda II? Zelda II has nothing to do with the other zeldas, it is also bad.
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Sep 3, 2014 23:34
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As much as I complain about it, I did quite like Skyward Sword. The dungeons and puzzles are mostly excellent, and I liked that each area before a dungeon was basically an open-air minidungeon. The lack of overworld sucked, the art design was blah (and led to some terrible boss designs like the Imprisoned and that retarded squid thing), and Fi talked way too much, but overall there's a good game in there. The motion controls are easy once you learn them too. Just remember not to backswing. I'm pretty sure a lot of people's issues are caused by "winding up" or doing a short backswing when they go to swing, causing the remote to think you swung in the opposite direction that you meant to. Once I made an effort not to do that it all clicked.
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Regy Rusty posted:Alright come on in no way is that a good recommendation for someone who "wants to see what the Zelda love is all about". Cue the obvious joke here. But yeah, the answer to 'what should someone try' regarding Zelda really comes down to specifics wants out of the experience, given how relatively varied they can be, despite common elements.
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virtualboyCOLOR posted:Link to the Past had amazing art direction and more than 2 colors. Mercury Crusader posted:The controls in Skyward Sword are fine, it's the unskippable tutorials Fi gives you every five seconds that's terrible. Someone playing Skyward Sword for the first time would also benefit from knowing already where the magical sacred water, windmill propellor, and silent realm gates are, because otherwise they're forced to dowse for these things, and you should absolutely never ever dowse (except like I dunno once or twice) when playing Skyward Sword because it is so horrifically boring.
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Sep 3, 2014 23:43
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I feel like Skyward Sword had the best last boss fight and ending of any Zelda game, but for someone new to Zelda I would also suggest Windwaker. If you enjoy that, then try the other Zelda games.
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Spacebump posted:Two other big releases that came out around the time OoT was released. (Turok 2 and Tomb Raider III) Those are a bunch of images that look better than OoT.
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Sep 3, 2014 23:44
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Someone either sell me on or tell me to avoid Steamworld Dig which I just saw featured prominently on the eShop. My kneejerk reaction is to avoid because it mentions "randomly generated levels" and makes me think of Spelunky which I don't care for, but I thought I'd seek more knowledgeable opinions.
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Sep 3, 2014 23:54
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Did you ever play Motherload back in the day? It's like that, with a thin plot.
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Sep 3, 2014 23:56
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Chronojam posted:Did you ever play Motherload back in the day? It's like that, with a thin plot. Nope, I don't know what that is.
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RMZXAnarchy posted:I got a copy when it came out because I was worried it'd be scarce. Now I have both S&P games and I've only played each once. Play it you jerk. Star Successor is fun as heck
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Sep 4, 2014 00:03
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whaley posted:Play it you jerk. Star Successor is fun as heck Do people call it star successor? I call it secret star fox.
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Sep 4, 2014 00:09
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After this shitstorm debate about which Zelda etc etc I went to Walmart and the fat lady with nicotine stained teeth who opened the locked cabinet thing to take it out for me (stocked right beside skyward) was like 'Oh yeah Zelda is a good game'. Hell yeah it is lady.
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Regy Rusty posted:Someone either sell me on or tell me to avoid Steamworld Dig which I just saw featured prominently on the eShop. My kneejerk reaction is to avoid because it mentions "randomly generated levels" and makes me think of Spelunky which I don't care for, but I thought I'd seek more knowledgeable opinions. It's nothing like Spelunky, you dig and get resources/items to help you dig longer and more efficiently. There are a few boss fights... I don't think I'm doing the game justice as I really enjoyed it, some people think the game is too short. If I remember right I was around 4-5 hours, but if you just dig straight down you can probably finish it in 2 hours. The 3DS version didn't have much replay value, not sure if they added anything to the Wii U version.
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