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ZDar Fan posted:Did Marc Mero wear body paint for the Johnny B. Badd gimmick, or was he just really tan? He lived in a tanning bed with Rick Rude. Saves money on rent.
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It's like one of those capsule hotels from Japan, but with more tanning oil.
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edit wrong thread. oops there is no more wrestling rumors thread.
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Johanns Molemann posted:Is there any credence to the rumor that HHH made it in the business by performing sexual favors for other men? Like his recruitment story was he was trying to meet Ric Flair and an older producer came up to him and asked him to send him his poo poo, and then later called him, but I interpret that as the producer saw another vulnerable wrestler to bang and put him on the casting couch. Likewise, who did Ric Flair sleep with? No. HHH does tell his recruitment story on Jericho's podcast though.
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What was the deal with Renegade? Did WCW actually think that fans would get behind a no-name Ultimate Warrior knockoff?
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ZDar Fan posted:What was the deal with Renegade? Did WCW actually think that fans would get behind a no-name Ultimate Warrior knockoff? Basically. It was worth a try. It's a case of 'That guy is hot. We can't have him so lets get someone like him'. To that end, has a 'copy' like that ever actually been successful?
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DrVenkman posted:To that end, has a 'copy' like that ever actually been successful? Demolition was pretty popular
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DrVenkman posted:Basically. It was worth a try. It's a case of 'That guy is hot. We can't have him so lets get someone like him'. Ultimate Warrior wasn't hot in 1995. The various knockoffs of the Fabulous Ones were successful in their various territories (except the New Fabulous Ones) and Demolition was pretty successful in the WWF.
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Fake Diesel continues to main event Raw to this day.
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Does Ric Flair count as a copy of Buddy Rogers?
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MassRafTer posted:Ultimate Warrior wasn't hot in 1995. In the immortal words of Hulk Hogan, "It's not hot!"
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MassRafTer posted:Ultimate Warrior wasn't hot in 1995. Hell, the Rock & Roll Express were so successful most people forget they were a Fabulous Ones knock-off.
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hulk hogan was a pretty good billy graham knockoff
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Nerokerubina posted:hulk hogan was a pretty good billy graham knockoff So was Dusty Rhodes.
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flashy_mcflash posted:Fake Diesel continues to main event Raw to this day. While Fake Fake Diesel is one half of the IWGP tag team champions.
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Spermgod posted:While Fake Fake Diesel is one half of the IWGP tag team champions. I didn't know Roman Reigns was in NJPW.
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I was reading that the Bella feud is something the Total Divas producers were pushing for. I've never watched Total Divas. I know is it as scripted as every other reality show, but how much does it break kayfabe? Would they really try to play it off like Nikki and Brie really hate each other?
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TL posted:I was reading that the Bella feud is something the Total Divas producers were pushing for. I've never watched Total Divas. I know is it as scripted as every other reality show, but how much does it break kayfabe? Would they really try to play it off like Nikki and Brie really hate each other? absolutely
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TL posted:I was reading that the Bella feud is something the Total Divas producers were pushing for. I've never watched Total Divas. I know is it as scripted as every other reality show, but how much does it break kayfabe? Would they really try to play it off like Nikki and Brie really hate each other? It is the weirdest mix of kayfabe and reality. They once played it off that Trinity (Naomi) threw a shoot hurracanrana on Jimmy Uso because she was mad at him and it was a problem because that broke the match script. Somewhere Vince Russo smiled for seemingly no reason.
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oatgan posted:absolutely Ok. I've never watched Total Divas either, but the more I read about it the more it sounds essentially like an hour's worth of backstage Raw segments centered around the Divas playing slightly different characters. Am I wrong? Because that sounds pretty drat dire.
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Thauros posted:Ok. Yes, it is a reality show.
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They break kayfabe as much as WWE tends to allow the more 'shootier' docs to do, and that's basically admit anything except that the match results are pre-determined. Like they'll not pretend that face/heel aligments or storylines are real, but they won't ever act like, say, bryan winning at mania was something Brie knew about before it happened, etc.
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I know Lance Storm has gone off the deep end lately with some of his opinions, but his tweets during Raw this past Monday really encapsulated everything wrong with the Bella Twins feud. If Nikki is telling the "truth", then wouldn't that make her the face as well as making Brie the heel because she's obviously an awful person? And if Nikkie is lying, then what point is there to her attack and turn in the first place? And how do they handle it on Total Divas which is supposed to be a reality show? Everyone, including friends and family, pretending that this storyline is actually true and acting accordingly?
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Pope Corky the IX posted:I know Lance Storm has gone off the deep end lately with some of his opinions, but his tweets during Raw this past Monday really encapsulated everything wrong with the Bella Twins feud. If Nikki is telling the "truth", then wouldn't that make her the face as well as making Brie the heel because she's obviously an awful person? And if Nikkie is lying, then what point is there to her attack and turn in the first place? And how do they handle it on Total Divas which is supposed to be a reality show? Everyone, including friends and family, pretending that this storyline is actually true and acting accordingly? Well Nikki did have to deal with all the beatings that resulted from Brie quitting. So she's lying to bolster her reasoning for attacking her sister, which is definitely heel behavior and a reason to boo her. But yeah, the angle is a mess when you factor in Total Divas. I imagine we'll get the Bella brother confronting Nikki about tearing their family apart and John Cena saying he doesn't want to get married until the drama settles.
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That's something else I've found interesting. They've been shoving the relationship between Brie Bella and Daniel Bryan down everyone's throats on Raw, and yet there's barely a mention of the fact that Cena is Nikki's boyfriend all this time and now she's an evil heel. So yet another disconnect between regular WWE programming and Total Divas.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:That's something else I've found interesting. They've been shoving the relationship between Brie Bella and Daniel Bryan down everyone's throats on Raw, and yet there's barely a mention of the fact that Cena is Nikki's boyfriend all this time and now she's an evil heel. So yet another disconnect between regular WWE programming and Total Divas. WWE doesn't like to mention that Cena is in a relationship or have him be in a kayfabe relationship because it could make him less desirable to a female audience
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Bard Maddox posted:WWE doesn't like to mention that Cena is in a relationship or have him be in a kayfabe relationship because it could make him less desirable to a female audience This combined with his workload means John Cena is a Japanese pop idol
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Strangely enough they brought up his divorce during the Rock feud though. "Oh yeah, Cena WAS married..." They don't mention spouses or children unless they want to be on TV, and only then if they want to make an angle out of it. Reigns has a daughter, so does Orton, etc. Blasmeister posted:They break kayfabe as much as WWE tends to allow the more 'shootier' docs to do, and that's basically admit anything except that the match results are pre-determined. Like they'll not pretend that face/heel aligments or storylines are real, but they won't ever act like, say, bryan winning at mania was something Brie knew about before it happened, etc. Some WWE docs actually do reveal that match results are fixed; they have mentioned plans to "put the title on" someone before, or "drop the belt to" someone. It's usually when talking about WCW history though, which is hilarious for its own reasons.
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Bard Maddox posted:WWE doesn't like to mention that Cena is in a relationship or have him be in a kayfabe relationship because it could make him less desirable to a female audience Y'see Homer, women are going to want to have sex with you. And we want them to think they can.
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Bard Maddox posted:WWE doesn't like to mention that Cena is in a relationship or have him be in a kayfabe relationship because it could make him less desirable to a female audience We want the ladies to think that they have a chance to fondle his thinning crewcut and stare deep into his crows feet.
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sticklefifer posted:Some WWE docs actually do reveal that match results are fixed; they have mentioned plans to "put the title on" someone before, or "drop the belt to" someone. Yeah, like when the Punk documentary talked about how the WHC was taken away from him just because they needed it for the Jericho/HBK feud. Oddly enough, Punk being so devastated in the doc probably helped put the belt over as a bigger deal than the storyline was managing at the time.
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the only recent WWE documentary I can think of that was still weirdly kayfabe was Randy Orton's
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The Countdowns still have a lot of that half-kayfabe in them. Like CM Punk talking about the "Brian Pillman Has A Gun" angle and doing his best to sell it as shocking and not stupid / ridiculous
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That angle was none of those things. It was awesome.
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Bard Maddox posted:WWE doesn't like to mention that Cena is in a relationship or have him be in a kayfabe relationship because it could make him less desirable to a female audience They did acknowledge his relationship with Nikki in the build to his match against Bryan at Summerslam 2013, but I can't remember a time since then that they've mentioned it. I was actually wondering if they broke up because they were so vocal about it around that time and during the last season of Total Divas and they've just fallen totally silent since then.
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I recalled hearing that back in the day, the 1-2-3 Kid was the test for newcomers to the company - if they couldn't have at least a decent match with him, chances are they weren't going to make it. Is there anyone nowadays who fills a similar role?
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Solomonic posted:This combined with his workload means John Cena is a Japanese pop idol except those go away when they're tired and stale e: reworded so stupid people don't think my point was Fire John Cena
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Ghostpilot posted:I recalled hearing that back in the day, the 1-2-3 Kid was the test for newcomers to the company - if they couldn't have at least a decent match with him, chances are they weren't going to make it. No one because WWE doesn't care about wrestling anymore.
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Ghostpilot posted:I recalled hearing that back in the day, the 1-2-3 Kid was the test for newcomers to the company - if they couldn't have at least a decent match with him, chances are they weren't going to make it. John Cena.
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