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Maybe I'm wrong but Dean was looking to rob a casino, and House is currently profiting from a bunch of casinos. Dean was also looking to run off with his friend's love interest, and House has a love for electronics and rocketry (this includes robot girls).
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chitoryu12 posted:Honestly, if I were in the Courier's position (and I could back up my bullshit) I would have probably said that same thing to Dean. The guy's a sleaze whose first interaction with you is forcing you to sit on a live bomb purely so he can put himself in a position of power over you. From that moment forward, I've decided that he's an untrustworthy sociopath who's best kept at arm's length and told (even if harshly) that he is not, in fact, the boss. Killing Dean is the actual good ending to DM. Any ending where he could potentially one day cause harm to someone else, as he would do if he ever encountered anything ever, is bad.
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KittyEmpress posted:They're both huge egomaniacs who think that they're the best and most important thing to the world. The difference being that Dean is a fuckhead who can't provide anything, while House is theoretically at least a genius, even if he isn't the jesus he claims to be. This. House is basically what Dean would be like if he was a bit smarter, and his plan had gone off how he had wanted it. It doesn't change the fact they both have pretty much the same personalities.
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Sep 4, 2014 06:29
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Keep in mind that with Dean you have the very specific goal of getting his help and not having him come to harm under any circumstances to avoid dying yourself. He immediately establishes himself as someone with control issues, challenging his authority is an incredibly idiotic thing to do.
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Sep 4, 2014 06:32
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Pwnstar posted:Keep in mind that with Dean you have the very specific goal of getting his help and not having him come to harm under any circumstances to avoid dying yourself. He immediately establishes himself as someone with control issues, challenging his authority is an incredibly idiotic thing to do. KittyEmpress posted:Killing Dean is the actual good ending to DM. Any ending where he could potentially one day cause harm to someone else, as he would do if he ever encountered anything ever, is bad. 
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Sep 4, 2014 06:39
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Pwnstar posted:Keep in mind that with Dean you have the very specific goal of getting his help and not having him come to harm under any circumstances to avoid dying yourself. He immediately establishes himself as someone with control issues, challenging his authority is an incredibly idiotic thing to do. At the same time, Dean isn't suicidal and you can point out to him that putting your life under the gun when he dies if you die isn't a very smart plan; either the Courier will call his bluff or the Courier commits suicide and takes the lunatic ghoul with him. Even if you make him homicidal toward you, Dean only tries to kill you at the end of it all, after you help him. Ordinarily, challenging his authority would be a good way to get him trying to murder you in your sleep. But as long as your lives are tied together, he has little choice to get out of it except to work together with you and plot his revenge for another time. Of course, by that point the Courier has the ability to shoot him first and is so much tougher and better equipped than Dean that he'll probably win the fight.
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Sep 4, 2014 06:42
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It's way classier to keep Dean sweet and then melt him with the holorifle once he's laid out his whole plan for you. Also I checked his dialogue file on the wiki and there's a load of stuff there that I have no idea how to hear or if it's even in the game. Like in some version of his quest in the theatre he references having "smuggled in" a recording of Vera and you can talk a bit about that, with different lines for Christine being dead, or you pretending she's dead. I get paranoid sometimes wondering just how much dialogue is still hidden away that I'll never hear.
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Sep 4, 2014 06:51
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HappyHelmet posted:This. House is basically what Dean would be like if he was a bit smarter, and his plan had gone off how he had wanted it. It doesn't change the fact they both have pretty much the same personalities.
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Sep 4, 2014 07:15
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Dean trapped Christine in the autodoc and tortured her for his own petty revenge on people who have been dead for 200 years. gently caress him.
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Sep 4, 2014 08:27
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I'm actually surprised Dean doesn't always betray you. I really don't see him being capable of "letting go".
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Sep 4, 2014 15:52
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I do like if you let him live he helps you fight Elijah by talking over the intercom.packetmantis posted:Dean trapped Christine in the autodoc and tortured her for his own petty revenge on people who have been dead for 200 years. gently caress him.
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Sep 4, 2014 16:17
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achillesforever6 posted:I do like if you let him live he helps you fight Elijah by talking over the intercom. I still wish you could bring up Christine to Veronica and vice versa. Too bad about the engine limitation 
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Pattonesque posted:I still wish you could bring up Christine to Veronica and vice versa. Too bad about the engine limitation
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Pattonesque posted:I still wish you could bring up Christine to Veronica and vice versa. Too bad about the engine limitation LividLiquid posted:I don't get this. If it's an engine limitation, why do we get to talk to her about Elijah after Dead Money. Either it's cut content Obsidian decided to repurpose, or they already planned for the player to meet Elijah in a DLC when they were doing the VA work for the base game and the idea for Christine to show up came later.
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Sep 4, 2014 16:53
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LividLiquid posted:I don't get this. If it's an engine limitation, why do we get to talk to her about Elijah after Dead Money. They had to sneak the Elijah dialogue into the base game ahead of time disguised as a cut quest to get that bit in. They probably didn't have Christine's character written when they finished the vanilla game so they couldn't put the dialogue in ahead of time like with Elijah. E:beat me to the punch
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Sep 4, 2014 16:55
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Can I murder all the companions in dead money as soon as I see them or will that break something
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Sep 4, 2014 17:30
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Mortimer posted:Can I murder all the companions in dead money as soon as I see them or will that break something
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:You can but you explode Just your head.
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Sep 4, 2014 17:35
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Mortimer posted:Can I murder all the companions in dead money as soon as I see them or will that break something Yes, your neck. Edit: Look at me not reloading the page.
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Mortimer posted:Can I murder all the companions in dead money as soon as I see them or will that break something don't listen to the next few posts, it's totally possible only sometimes the game bugs out (you know how New Vegas is) and you die, so you might have to try it a few times in different areas in case it does bug out wherever you are.
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Sep 4, 2014 18:22
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JawKnee posted:don't listen to the next few posts, it's totally possible only sometimes the game bugs out (you know how New Vegas is) and you die, so you might have to try it a few times in different areas in case it does bug out wherever you are. ^ This.
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JawKnee posted:don't listen to the next few posts, it's totally possible only sometimes the game bugs out (you know how New Vegas is) and you die, so you might have to try it a few times in different areas in case it does bug out wherever you are. Next you'll say it will glitch like 85% of the time if you try it within an hour of your most recent save or autosave.
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ThNextGreenLantern posted:Next you'll say it will glitch like 85% of the time if you try it within an hour of your most recent save or autosave. No, but you do miss out on the bow upgrade.
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Sep 4, 2014 19:27
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Well, Dead Money does have that whole, "letting go" theme. Let Dean go die in a horrible explosion. Jerk tried to kill you.
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Sep 4, 2014 20:12
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SlothfulCobra posted:Well, Dead Money does have that whole, "letting go" theme. It's time to Let Go.... of all of these Frag grenades I've been getting from disarming traps.
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Sep 4, 2014 20:41
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ThNextGreenLantern posted:It's time to Let Go.... of all of these Frag grenades I've been getting from disarming traps. Even better, all the frag grenades and 20 gauge shells you get are from his traps. Just give them all back.
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Sep 4, 2014 20:56
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I was assuming during my play through that Dean was behind many of the deaths of 'tourists' you come across. What with all the "treasures MINE assholes" graffiti around and dean's love of traps. Considering what he did to Christine at the drop of a hat doesn't seem too far fetched.
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HappyHelmet posted:I said this earlier in the thread, but it's funny that so many of the same people who hate Dean Domino think House is the best answer to the Mojave situation. When they both have basically the same personality. I've just always found it strange that people "hate" any of the characters in this game. People mention that they "can't not kill" certain characters like Dean because of their personalities, but I've never really been affected like that. Maybe I just don't get into it enough, but I can generally suspend reasonable judgement of character when I'm playing and work with people even if they're supposed to be real jerks. I think House is a pretty cool guy. 
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Raygereio posted:That probably more of a "We didn't want to bring Felicia Day in again because that would put us over budget" thing. There's no engine limitation that prevented Obsidian from adding new dialogue to base game NPCs. The engine limitation is that the base game can't rexognize anything related the DLCs. Rope Kid could explain better if he chooses.
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Lord Chumley posted:The engine limitation is that the base game can't rexognize anything related the DLCs. Rope Kid could explain better if he chooses. They were able to do a full dialogue tree replacement for ED-E in Lonesome Road, because it's the last major DLC. Bethesda's Fallout 3 DLC gleefully ignored this and thus has a slew of problems.
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Honest Hearts is feeling a bit flat after Dead Money but it probably doesn't help I'm running around God's
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Berke Negri posted:Honest Hearts is feeling a bit flat after Dead Money but it probably doesn't help I'm running around God's This is why I like to pretend that my Courier sees Honest Hearts as a chance to vacation and hide after Dead Money. I bumble into Dead Money, bumble out drunk on gold and vending machine goodies, powerwalk my way into Vegas expecting to be Queen poo poo of Fuckland, get WAY in over my head, and then run screaming for Honest Hearts with as little gear as possible, fully believing it'll be a great way to lie low, calm down after Dead Money, and make some caps at the same time. So I walk into it with courier clothes, a backpack, some meds, a single small gun, and the idiot idea it's going to go smoothly.
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That's kind of how I approach it after a major killing of some sort: Benny, House, Caeser
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Hey, me too. Roleplayers unite 
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Sep 5, 2014 05:32
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The opening of Honest Hearts says "hey don't bring all your retarded god items in here, just a couple of things" so don't let rope kid down by ignoring that.
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Pwnstar posted:The opening of Honest Hearts says "hey don't bring all your retarded god items in here, just a couple of things" so don't let rope kid down by ignoring that. [Barter] "Ok maybe some of them"
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I go to HH first to get off the heat of killing Benny and make some caps, then OWB while loving around the wasteland, then DM after meeting the brotherhood, sprinkle the main quest in around there, and then go the LR right before the endgame.
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I usually do HH first, as an odd job to get the caps to get into Vegas, and then DM 'on accident' while hunting for the Brotherhood. No fuckin' clue when OWB could fit. 
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Drug binge induced nightmare. Leave literally everything you find in the Sink, wake up back at the drive-in, pretend OWB never happened while feeling somewhat uneasy whenever you look in your backpack and see that odd-looking toy gun.
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Pwnstar posted:The opening of Honest Hearts says "hey don't bring all your retarded god items in here, just a couple of things" so don't let rope kid down by ignoring that.
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