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Gensuki posted:Is Invoke the firemind a good card? I can only think of bad things to say about it, and I want to say this would have been a much better "Izzet spell with X in its cost." Invoke the Firemind was great, but mostly because it was an X spell at 3 CMC (and therefore transmutable with drift) that existed in a format with tron and heartbeat combo.
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"Tron" is the Urza land cycle?
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Rinkles posted:"Tron" is the Urza land cycle? Yep.
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The only possessive card type?
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Rinkles posted:The only possessive card type? http://magiccards.info/query?q=t%3A%22urza%27s%22&v=card&s=cname I assume he labeled them that way because Mishra kept playing with his toys.
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anyone think Gifts Ungiven might spike now that gifts control has a manabase that doesn't suck? at 5 each its not the most strenuous activity to get a playset
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Some Numbers posted:Obviously dealing damage is better than gaining life, but still. This actually is less true than you might think, at least in the context of counterspells. Everyone that I read (including me) pretty much thought Undermine was better than Absorb when Invasion was released, but it turns out that that wasn't the case unless you were specifically blue-black and not white. Maybe U/R/x? counterburn style will play differently enough that actually going to the head will be better. I don't think anyone can say yet.
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Rinkles posted:The only possessive card type? There's two, and they're both on that card. One exercise that's actually pretty difficult is listing all of the land types from memory. There's 8 non-basic land types. I didn't expect there to be that many.
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Dr. Stab posted:There's two, and they're both on that card. urza's, mine, tower, power-plant, locus, gate, lair... I can't think of the eighth
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Sep 5, 2014 01:10
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Desert.
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Attorney at Funk posted:urza's, mine, tower, power-plant, locus, gate, lair... I can't think of the eighth Desert. Because of Camel. e: artifact and enchantment types can be kinda tricky for some. Not as tricky as the list of all types and supertypes, though.
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Haha, that's absurd.
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Dr. Stab posted:There's two, and they're both on that card. They should print another cycle of Lairs for the Planar Chaos Dragons. They need homes too.
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Desert?
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Dr. Stab posted:Desert. Because of Camel. Also Desert Nomads.
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Valicious posted:Desert? Desert.
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Mindswipe is a cool card and I want it to be good but I'm skeptical. It does nothing until you have 3 mana, where it's extremely weak. It only has an appreciable effect if you have a lot of mana available, which presents a significant opportunity cost, and if they're able to pay for X it's pretty much just a lava axe that you can only cast in response to their spells. The thing about Syncopate is that you only needed two more mana than they had left in order to use it, whereas here you need three more. At any rate, I'm really digging this cycle of 2-color rares for each clan that lack the "primary" color, they're all just super cool flavor and effect-wise.
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"All creatures attacking in a band with Camel are immune to damage done by Deserts" will never not crack me up.
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Looks like mindswipe will give URzaton a bit more viability in Modern.
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InterrupterJones posted:Looks like mindswipe will give URzaton a bit more viability in Modern. IzzetTron hasn't really been a thing to date. I'm not sure that one card can turn it around.
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InterrupterJones posted:Looks like mindswipe will give URzaton a bit more viability in Modern. I'd like to run Izzetron, and counter someone's T5 play. "Liliana." "Okay, Mindswipe for 7. Take 7." That actually sounds pretty blowoutish.
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So, why doesn't Urza Tron just run like 12 Banefires? That seems like a viable plan? Tall walls, then go to the head for 8 every turn?
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Off the top of my head: it has no way to search for them.
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Remand is heavily played and most X spells aren't uncounterable.
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Gensuki posted:So, why doesn't Urza Tron just run like 12 Banefires? That seems like a viable plan? Tall walls, then go to the head for 8 every turn? Tron's big payoff cards are stronger than fireballs.
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Oh 12 fireballs? Yeah, that's not gonna work. There isn't room in the deck. I tried experimenting with an x damage spell and I really would rather have the pyroclasms, wurmcoils, karn, and o stones. You usually can't afford to Ancient Stirrings your win con to the bottom of the deck either.
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The thing is basically that the first fireball or two basically don't do anything if they're pointed at the face, and they're less efficient at dealing with the board than any of Tron's other spells. Karn and Wurmcoil are must-answer threats, Karn and O-Stone are reliable, universal removal, etc.
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Gensuki posted:So, why doesn't Urza Tron just run like 12 Banefires? That seems like a viable plan? Tall walls, then go to the head for 8 every turn?  My secret G/r Tron tech by the end of last Modern PTQ season was a single Bonfire of the Damned.Had to do something to keep Modern fun (i.e. make Modern miserable for my opponents)
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I look at tron like you're trying to skip your turn 3-6 and play turn 7 early. Fireball on turn 7 isn't good. Well sure, you can put whatever expensive card you fancy in as a 1 off. Bonfire for its miracle cost is kinda like your pyroclasm so it would slot in ok. Babylon Astronaut fucked around with this message at 02:12 on Sep 5, 2014 |
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Does anyone who plays Vintage 2 mans online not play Gush Storm? Seriously, I've played 5 rounds, and it's the only thing I've played. Edit: At least I won this one. suicidesteve fucked around with this message at 02:28 on Sep 5, 2014 |
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I can see Mindswipe being played in that deck everyone tried to make work but it didn't work because the support that existed was bad. Counterburn. 
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Count Bleck posted:I can see Mindswipe being played in that deck everyone tried to make work but it didn't work because the support that existed was bad. There isn't enough good counter or burn to play that deck unless something amazing get previewed. Mindswipe is a bad Syncopate, really. (And this is someone who has been dying to play Izzet ever since he got back into the game.) Outside of Nullify, Negate and Swan Song, all of the counterspells available to U/R are 3CMC+. (This ignores Thassa's Rebuff.) At this point, I don't see a non-green deck being able to survive long enough to toss out Keranos and let him do his thing.
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suicidesteve posted:Does anyone who plays Vintage 2 mans online not play Gush Storm? Seriously, I've played 5 rounds, and it's the only thing I've played.
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OneDeadman posted:Yesssss Yeah, going into my Lazav copy/steal deck ASAP. I think I'm going to call it SendInTheClones.edh, though.
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So I know buying boxes is stupid. That said, is there anywhere you can preorder a box for Khans and have it delivered release day?
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YorexTheMad posted:So I know buying boxes is stupid. Dumb question, why is buying boxes stupid?
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mango sentinel posted:Are you sure you're not just playing the same guy 5 rounds in a row? I've heard Legacy is like that. Vintage may now be better with VMA driving up interest. Yeah, It's been over a period of 3 days. No repeat opponents, Gush Storm every time. The first one was Sam Sherman, who I think is someone? The name sounded familiar anyway. Are there any cheap bUG (preferably no more than 1 B in its cost.) cards that give all creatures -x/-1? Like, 1 or 2 CMC? I'm tired of these stupid Goblins
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Deviant posted:Dumb question, why is buying boxes stupid? The estimated value of a box is generally less than if you were to just buy the singles you want for the 100$ you paid for the box. That said, buying boxes tends to help me stave off my addicting to cracking packs. I'm considering buying a box and then just opening a pack a day to stem my needs.
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