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The one thing I feel You're The Worst needs to change/improve is the veteran roommate. Lindsay, Edgar's counterpart in terms of their supporting roles, is a far more entertaining and interesting character.
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soapgish posted:What is the worst season of SOUTH PARK? It's an awful show for awful, small people who likes things to look like other things, to validate their fart joke belief systems. I lost a toxx, and so whatever is the worst I'm going to endure. Or maybe someone buy me Platinum and I can read precision's post history for the Cliff's Notes. Season 1 isn't very good. South Park is a good show - 17+ Seasons and it hasn't grown stale. I'm interested why you don't like South Park.
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CaptainHollywood posted:Season 1 isn't very good. This is also why their non-SP projects (Book of Mormon, Team America) tend to be better.
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Lugaloco posted:The one thing I feel You're The Worst needs to change/improve is the veteran roommate. Lindsay, Edgar's counterpart in terms of their supporting roles, is a far more entertaining and interesting character. Edgar exists in between being a real character and being the writers prop to prove Jimmy isn't a complete douche. Even though the moment where Jimmy after getting his heart destroyed says to Edgar, we'll go tomorrow to the VA to get your meds was a real person moment. No one's sure about its renewal bit a bunch of TV critics coming to like it can't hurt.
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FactsAreUseless posted:Sadly, South Park is a show that often wants to make a statement without having anything interesting to say - their politics range from juvenile to just plain stupid, so when they get political it can be really painful. In all fairness, South Park is a good barometer of how a normal (read: disengaged) person might view a politically charged issue. I mean, if you're a well-adjusted person with a family, a job, friends and hobbies--a life, if you will--do you really care why the Israelis and Palestinians are killing each other this month? Of course not, so your view of the issue is going to be a lot less extreme that those who support one side over the other. South Park goes a long way towards expressing that oft-overlooked viewpoint by simply stating, "both sides are wrong. Find a more constructive way to work out your differences." Which, on its head, is not a bad position to hold. Irish Joe fucked around with this message at 15:35 on Sep 6, 2014 |
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I don't like it when my offensive comedy cartoon show doesn't make the political statements I agree with
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Sober posted:Oh, so there was an alternate ending to How I Met Your Mother: http://vimeo.com/105404677 I'm just going to pretend that was the actual ending because it's so much better than "welp your mom is dead mind if I gently caress aunt Robin?"
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IRQ posted:I'm just going to pretend that was the actual ending because it's so much better than "welp your mom is dead mind if I gently caress aunt Robin?" wait this is seriously how it ended? christ
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DoctorWhat posted:wait Yes. How did you miss the fallout from this all this time?
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GreenNight posted:It's going to kill me when my age catches up to their ages. I was literally Bart's age when the series started and am now about Homer's age. poo poo's hosed up.
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IRQ posted:I'm just going to pretend that was the actual ending because it's so much better than "welp your mom is dead mind if I gently caress aunt Robin?" And then they go around and already had this ready JUST IN CASE.
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Gonz posted:Reminder: The final season of Boardwalk Empire premieres tomorrow night on HBO.  I went and made the Danger 5 Season 2 thread because we're within a month of it coming out (it premiers in two weeks, airs next month) so go and catch up on season 1 (first post of OP) and get ready for some craziness next month. If a mod is reading, mind if you change the thread title and include the Umlaut in Führer? I forgot it.
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drunkill posted:I went and made the Danger 5 Season 2 thread because we're within a month of it coming out (it premiers in two weeks, airs next month) so go and catch up on season 1 (first post of OP) and get ready for some craziness next month. Not possible. But what is possible is for people to watch this show, because they can and they should
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precision posted:Trailer Park Boys season 8 has a more progressive and realistic portrayal of a gay couple than Modern Family. I'd love for you to keep telling me about the singular type of gay couple that you believe exists. 
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Deadpool posted:Not possible. But what is possible is for people to watch this show, because they can and they should Ah well, thanks anyway. Yes, watch it and you can join in with the rest of us next month in viewing the second season as it airs.
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DoctorWhat posted:wait It's actually even shittier than it sounds if you had watched the show with regard to Ted and Robin hooking up again post off-camera random mother death. I mean, I've given up on planned show endings being any good (Breaking Bad aside), but HIMYM was especially dumb. Not bad enough to piss me off like the oft-cited BSG/Lost endings, just so incredibly, astoundingly, misguided and dumb. Someone else already covered why. The ending would have made sense a couple seasons in, but not after the 9 years or whatever the show aired.
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..then the mother died and Ted lived happily ever after with his first choice.
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JohnSherman posted:I'd love for you to keep telling me about the singular type of gay couple that you believe exists. I don't think that's how he meant it at all. Also he's right because the gay couple in MF are just general flamboyant stereotypes.
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Irish Joe posted:In all fairness, South Park is a good barometer of how a normal (read: disengaged) person might view a politically charged issue. I mean, if you're a well-adjusted person with a family, a job, friends and hobbies--a life, if you will--do you really care why the Israelis and Palestinians are killing each other this month? Of course not, so your view of the issue is going to be a lot less extreme that those who support one side over the other. South Park goes a long way towards expressing that oft-overlooked viewpoint by simply stating, "both sides are wrong. Find a more constructive way to work out your differences." Which, on its head, is not a bad position to hold. I don't think it's a bad position to hold, I just think that they go down that road far too often and rather than being progressive it makes them seem a little toothless. I understand why they do it though. It's that Daily Show thing of showing that there's idiots on both sides. As for HIMYM. I think Sepinwall had a great rant about it but they basically shot their ending years ago, and have stuck to it ever since. So while they know the end they've had to twist everything that happens so they can fit it in, which is why Barney and Robin get divorced for no real reason and why after all that time Ted really wanted Robin.
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Not sure how I sat through this week's Garfunkel and Oates but that was weird. They always start off really weak and are better in the middle. The songs haven't gotten any better though, they aren't catchy and just feel like observational humour that should only get a few lines and not 2-3 minute songs.
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DoctorWhat posted:wait Not technically. The daughter told him to go bang Robin, he didn't bring it up.
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Irish Joe posted:In all fairness, South Park is a good barometer of how a normal (read: disengaged) person might view a politically charged issue. I mean, if you're a well-adjusted person with a family, a job, friends and hobbies--a life, if you will--do you really care why the Israelis and Palestinians are killing each other this month? Of course not, so your view of the issue is going to be a lot less extreme that those who support one side over the other. South Park goes a long way towards expressing that oft-overlooked viewpoint by simply stating, "both sides are wrong. Find a more constructive way to work out your differences." Which, on its head, is not a bad position to hold. That would be okay if people didn't view them as some kind of genius for coming up with such a novel view for every situation. Also, if they were funny while doing it instead of driving their moral home with the subtlety of a ton of bricks. I guess I just feel like if you're going to do current events-based episodes so often you should have something interesting to say about it, rather than, as you pointed out, something that any old rear end in a top hat could come up with. Then again I stopped watching the show years ago because their humor got boring to me and whenever I catch a random new episode it doesn't do much to make me regret that decision. Irish Joe posted:..then the mother died and Ted lived happily ever after with his first choice. The moral of the story, kids, is to just settle for who you can get, and hope she dies off with enough time for you to get with the one you really love. DrVenkman posted:As for HIMYM. I think Sepinwall had a great rant about it but they basically shot their ending years ago, and have stuck to it ever since. So while they know the end they've had to twist everything that happens so they can fit it in, which is why Barney and Robin get divorced for no real reason and why after all that time Ted really wanted Robin. The problem is that it's still kind of a terrible ending even if the show ended in the first season and that bakery chick wound up being the mother. To be fair, watching the HIMYM thread's reaction to the ending in real time made it totally worth it though. raditts fucked around with this message at 22:37 on Sep 6, 2014 |
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Sober posted:Yeah the ending we got was so stupid in some ways, because they insisted on using something they filmed in case they got canceled 3 years in. But then they went 9 and this would have been the best ending with the way the show did go (I wanted them to introduce the Mother much earlier), but by the end of the final season they just kept piling up setup after setup of the future where she dies just so they could stick to the ending they shot ages ago. Wow - the link has already been taken down. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8WbuXY4Iws I think How I Met Your Mother really showed that TV can be a bit of a double edged sword sometimes. Everyone got mad at Lost because it was clear nothing was planned from the beginning. Then we got something like this that was "planned" and everyone was just as upset if not more. I don't care how many times it gets brought up but Breaking Bad really set the standard for wrapping things up. While nothing was "planned" the show came to a natural conclusion with organic twists that made sense throughout. One of the biggest complaints the ending gets is that it's too perfect. CaptainHollywood fucked around with this message at 22:49 on Sep 6, 2014 |
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There's definitely a balance to be struck between having a planned story and improvising. Having a basic outline set up at the outset of your show with some planned beats that you can get to naturally or otherwise alter if the situation demands it is a much smarter way to do it then IT HAS TO END THIS WAY and WE'LL FIGURE IT OUT WHEN WE GET THERE.
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If they REALLY wanted to throw their viewers for a huge loop, they could have had them meet in an unspecified warzone after committing various atrocities that violate the Geneva Convention. The two of them turning out to be heinous war criminals would have pissed everybody off and would've been talked about for years to come.
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The time compression is what really makes the ending bad. Ted meets the mother finally, and she dies in the same episode. They have years together but the audience doesn't see it. When the daughter is telling Ted to go after Robin, she says the same thing. It's been X years (6, I think?) since mom died blah blah, but for the audience it hasn't even been a minute. If they had had Ted meet her at the end of the penultimate season and then had the final season be their first months or years together or something with the future stuff being them finding out about and dealing with her condition, even the exact same ending would have been better received.
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Zaggitz posted:There's definitely a balance to be struck between having a planned story and improvising. Having a basic outline set up at the outset of your show with some planned beats that you can get to naturally or otherwise alter if the situation demands it is a much smarter way to do it then IT HAS TO END THIS WAY and WE'LL FIGURE IT OUT WHEN WE GET THERE.
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CaptainHollywood posted:Wow - the link has already been taken down. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8WbuXY4Iws I think people got mad at Lost cuz the writers always said in interviews that everything was carefully planned from the get go, and it was obvious that the exact opposite was true after all was said and done.
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Irish Joe posted:In all fairness, South Park is a good barometer of how a normal (read: disengaged) person might view a politically charged issue. I mean, if you're a well-adjusted person with a family, a job, friends and hobbies--a life, if you will--do you really care why the Israelis and Palestinians are killing each other this month? Of course not, so your view of the issue is going to be a lot less extreme that those who support one side over the other. South Park goes a long way towards expressing that oft-overlooked viewpoint by simply stating, "both sides are wrong. Find a more constructive way to work out your differences." Which, on its head, is not a bad position to hold. I get the impression that anyone who wants to sound smart this decade waves the "truth is in the middle!" flag, often without justifying the position or besides vilifying the two sides. To me it's often just a third side that's wrong.
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Why do people even slap that poo poo on South Park anyway? I haven't loved the show, ever, outside of the standout episodes (Scott Tenorman, anything with Butters), but it rarely actually pulls "the truth is in the middle", what it usually tries to say is "the truth is that both sides should think about each other a little more because you're just butting heads instead of actually trying to change anyone's mind". I don't really like those episodes much, but only because they're rarely funny. The Richard Dawkins one was pretty good though.
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I'm going insane trying to find this show that used to be on Netflix but now I cannot find anywhere. It was 2 British, or maybe Dutch guys, I think they might've been doctors, and they would travel to local isolated regions and one of them would subsist only on the local diet and the other would monitor his health. They traveled to Siberia, where they stayed with a Inuit/tribal community that traditionally lived off of seal and whale meat but now obesity was rising due to the introduction of cheap convenience food. They traveled deep into Africa where some local hunters caught a clearly sick monkey, roasted, and ate it. They also went to India, and met with the local Rationalists, people claiming that they can do all the 'pain' tricks the gurus do without any mystical b.s just pain resistance, and one of the 2 guys had some spikes pounded through his skin to see how it felt. I remember the show actually followed the Siberian natives on a whale hunt, but the show cut away and didn't show the killing shot but came back when the whale was being cut up and harvested on the shore.
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Well that show sounds really interesting so if you find it let us know. Doesn't ring any bells for me.
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pentyne posted:I'm going insane trying to find this show that used to be on Netflix but now I cannot find anywhere. It was 2 British, or maybe Dutch guys, I think they might've been doctors, and they would travel to local isolated regions and one of them would subsist only on the local diet and the other would monitor his health. They traveled to Siberia, where they stayed with a Inuit/tribal community that traditionally lived off of seal and whale meat but now obesity was rising due to the introduction of cheap convenience food. They traveled deep into Africa where some local hunters caught a clearly sick monkey, roasted, and ate it. They also went to India, and met with the local Rationalists, people claiming that they can do all the 'pain' tricks the gurus do without any mystical b.s just pain resistance, and one of the 2 guys had some spikes pounded through his skin to see how it felt. Medicine Men Go Wild.
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Deadpool posted:Medicine Men Go Wild. THANK YOU! edit: Although its now impossible to find for viewing anywhere. pentyne fucked around with this message at 05:46 on Sep 7, 2014 |
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