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Fuzzy Mammal posted:People need to internalize the difference between good cards and sweet cards itt. I guess my flavor-bone would be more tickled if the card was an uncommon.
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:
I love both of these, I am way too hype for Khans right now.
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That cat demon is a spicy little number. The ability to dump excess mana to win any combat is a pretty good set up on a bear.Mortimer posted:b-but where does it go?
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Sep 8, 2014 05:21
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Spiderdrake posted:The bulk rare box. Yeah in real life, but in mechanics terms the turtle isn't "charging up an attack" because its a slow turtle. This turtle is pulling some goku instant transmission poo poo
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Sep 8, 2014 05:23
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That turtle is really, really cool but even in limited I don't think I'd be very hyped to open one... 3 turns before it gets a swing in, which can be chumped assuming they don't control an island? Ouch. Maybe if it had reach I'd be a little more content to play it on the defense? Also, when is the last time we've seen a non-blue creature with islandwalk? I haven't been playing for too long but it's seemed like they've been reserving -walk for same color hate for a few years now.
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Sep 8, 2014 05:27
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I'm not sure I understand this guy's face.
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Sep 8, 2014 05:30
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River boa? Lurking Crocodile? Only really green it seems lately. Anyways yeah the card is just a big fat rear end but that's ok it's just stupid and cool.
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Sep 8, 2014 05:31
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goferchan posted:That turtle is really, really cool but even in limited I don't think I'd be very hyped to open one... 3 turns before it gets a swing in, which can be chumped assuming they don't control an island? Ouch. Maybe if it had reach I'd be a little more content to play it on the defense? Yeah, its basically as bad as Swarmborn Giant from Journey into Nyx, except occupying your rare slot.
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Sep 8, 2014 05:36
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Angry Grimace posted:Yeah, its basically as bad as Swarmborn Giant from Journey into Nyx, except occupying your rare slot. I am sure it's absolutely tragic that Wizards is printing a card that is Not For You
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That turtle is cool as gently caress, and I'd probably pick it in limited. At worst it's a huge fatty that you leave at home to block things. If you end up being in a place to attack with him, great, but he's still cool. Also I want him to sit his huge fat rear end right on the dragon throne and give awesome speeches to the rest of my team really, really slowly. This might even happen because I except most people won't pick either of those rares super highly, my own personal magical Christmas land incoming. Olothreutes fucked around with this message at 05:43 on Sep 8, 2014 |
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It is a little better, but that is an apt comparison. This guy rates a little higher simply because Islandwalk is more relevant in three color blocks, meaning he'll often be able to deal that crucial last 5, and a nine butt is a pretty solid blocker whereas Swarmborn just flopped in the situations where it couldn't block. It is still really awful as a rare.
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Sep 8, 2014 05:41
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I wish the turtle were at common because it's sure as hell not constructed material and I'd love a chance to actually try it out in limited.goferchan posted:Also, when is the last time we've seen a non-blue creature with islandwalk? I haven't been playing for too long but it's seemed like they've been reserving -walk for same color hate for a few years now. The most recent off-color landwalk I can think of is that UB with Forestwalk from DGM.
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Does the Temur mechanic involve stuff like "When a creature with power >= 4 ETB, [thing]" or is it just "If you control a creature with power >= 4, [bonus]"? That turtle could be cool if there are any cards like the former in the set.
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Sep 8, 2014 05:45
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ungulateman posted:Well, he's not Putrid Leech, but he's drat close, and regeneration is pretty huge. I'm thinking a smaller spiritmonger.
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homerlaw posted:I'm thinking a smaller spiritmonger. Meowntuko Shade 
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C-Euro posted:Does the Temur mechanic involve stuff like "When a creature with power >= 4 ETB, [thing]" or is it just "If you control a creature with power >= 4, [bonus]"? That turtle could be cool if there are any cards like the former in the set. As far as we know, it's just "If you control a creature with power >= 4, [bonus]", which is what distinguishes it from Naya 2: Naya Harder.
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Sep 8, 2014 05:48
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:Meowntuko Shade Lotleth lolcat
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Sep 8, 2014 05:51
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Eh, I'd still probably play the turtle in limited because ain't nothing getting past a 5/9. Still, with 20 more uncommons, you have to wonder what the gently caress they are putting in those slots. This set seems underpowered so far.
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Sep 8, 2014 05:58
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generator servant into towershell might be neat
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Sep 8, 2014 06:04
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The turtle is for BUG Phenax mill guys.
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Sep 8, 2014 06:07
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That turtle holy poo poo. I want them in my Green Devotion Deck. Is that a reference to the legend of the turtle in the mists? That's really rad.
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Sep 8, 2014 06:11
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The only thing I don't like about the turtle is that since it's obviously Giant Slow Turtle: The Card, it should 1) have trample to represent its unstoppability and/or 2) have 14 toughness or some other giant stupid number that's fun to look at. Also, shroud.
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meanolmrcloud posted:Eh, I'd still probably play the turtle in limited because ain't nothing getting past a 5/9. Still, with 20 more uncommons, you have to wonder what the gently caress they are putting in those slots. This set seems underpowered so far. 2 welkin terns can get past it, and outpace it in damage
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Sep 8, 2014 06:17
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Zorak posted:I am sure it's absolutely tragic that Wizards is printing a card that is Not For You Whether its for me or not doesn't change the fact its not good. "Card is not for you" is just a nonsense thing Maro says to avoid criticism for poo poo like One with Nothing. If they're gonna do cards that exist solely for people who enjoy the design aspect of reflecting how a really slow turtle would attack within MTG mechanics, I don't see why they can't be uncommon. Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 06:27 on Sep 8, 2014 |
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Angry Grimace posted:Whether its for me or not doesn't change the fact its not good. "Card is not for you" is just a nonsense thing Maro says to avoid criticism for poo poo like One with Nothing. What? It's a giant, huge turtle. It may just be a Ferocity wall, but it might also win you a game with a second ETB trigger for other types of Ferocious effects. There's certainly effects that would make his self-exile interesting, and I don't think I would call even call him "bad" until we see what Temur looks like at common/uncommon. Also, the card is sweet. Angry Grimace posted:If they're gonna do cards that exist solely for people who enjoy the design aspect of reflecting how a really slow turtle would attack within MTG mechanics, I don't see why they can't be uncommon. Because it's an Islandwalking 5/9 for 5. You do have to jump through hoops to get damage through, but the body itself is still very powerful. They'd have to have made it a worse card.
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Angry Grimace posted:poo poo like One with Nothing. One with Nothing probably would have seen at least some play in GY decks both in Theros and Innistrad/RTR standards 
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Niton posted:but it might also win you a game with a second ETB trigger for other types of Ferocious effects. As far as we know, Ferocious is specifically "While you control a creature with 4+ power" effects. It's not like the Naya mechanic where it could be EtB triggers or take any number of other forms.
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Lottery of Babylon posted:As far as we know, Ferocious is specifically "While you control a creature with 4+ power" effects. It's not like the Naya mechanic where it could be EtB triggers or take any number of other forms. 
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Angry Grimace posted:Whether its for me or not doesn't change the fact its not good. "Card is not for you" is just a nonsense thing Maro says to avoid criticism for poo poo like One with Nothing. I assume you made an angry grimace when you saw the card spoiled
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Mortimer posted:One with Nothing probably would have seen at least some play in GY decks both in Theros and Innistrad/RTR standards iirc it didn't even see play in extended Dredge so I really doubt it
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Niton posted:What? It's a giant, huge turtle. It may just be a Ferocity wall, but it might also win you a game with a second ETB trigger for other types of Ferocious effects. There's certainly effects that would make his self-exile interesting, and I don't think I would call even call him "bad" until we see what Temur looks like at common/uncommon. I don't really understand why every card has a defense force. It's a decent blocker that can't attack half of the turns its out and can't block half the time because of the fact that you had to commmit to its attack the prior turn. Its not a good card at any rarity, and it has anti-synergy with Ferocious because it doesn't exist on the battlefield half the time.
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:
Oh good, they made Truefire Paladin a rare this time. I love the design of that turtle but I don't think I want to play it. I guess it's a good wall. Also Mardu Charm seems really good. It's relevant at almost every stage of the game, which is pretty cool.
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Angry Grimace posted:Whether its for me or not doesn't change the fact its not good. "Card is not for you" is just a nonsense thing Maro says to avoid criticism for poo poo like One with Nothing. jesus dude, i can understand bitching up a storm when youre talking about competitive cards, but if you can't see that this turtle is loving awesome even if it will never see a constructed deck then maybe you are in this game for the wrong reasons. jokes on you, this card is gonna be the lynchpin of phenax self-mill delve
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A big flaming stink posted:jesus dude, i can understand bitching up a storm when youre talking about competitive cards, but if you can't see that this turtle is loving awesome even if it will never see a constructed deck then maybe you are in this game for the wrong reasons. I wasn't even that down on the card, its that there's always an angry defense force if you say you don't think something is good. The mechanics of a slow-turtle are cute, sure.
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I hope you guys who are really loving that turtle are as excited about it when you open 3 in your prerelease packs. I'm going to be the guy wishing it was an uncommon and getting a fetchland instead.
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Mortimer posted:Yeah in real life, but in mechanics terms the turtle isn't "charging up an attack" because its a slow turtle. This turtle is pulling some goku instant transmission poo poo It wanders right off the battlefield. It's meandering. It says so right on it!
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A big flaming stink posted:jesus dude, i can understand bitching up a storm when youre talking about competitive cards, but if you can't see that this turtle is loving awesome even if it will never see a constructed deck then maybe you are in this game for the wrong reasons. Yeah man, why can't you appreciate the bad turtle and how much it enriches this card game? E: V It's a good card but it's very, very far from being the best charm ever. Most of the Alara ones were very strong. TheKingofSprings fucked around with this message at 06:59 on Sep 8, 2014 |
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