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FoolyCharged posted:Sometimes I feel like I'm the only person who didn't have a problem with this mission. It's a pretty bog standard escort mission that functions just like every other council mission like it The waves are fixed and placed in about the worst places they could be, if you found it easy you probably happened by luck or intuition to be in the right place to pick off the Thin Men as they dropped in. That or you just got really, really lucky with having Thin Men still be alive on the alien turn, because at this point in the game you expect a Thin Man to kill someone every time they shoot.
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legoman727 posted:The Thin Men are talking. Well they are the espionage/infiltration clade of the invasion force.
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Feinne posted:The waves are fixed and placed in about the worst places they could be, if you found it easy you probably happened by luck or intuition to be in the right place to pick off the Thin Men as they dropped in. That or you just got really, really lucky with having Thin Men still be alive on the alien turn, because at this point in the game you expect a Thin Man to kill someone every time they shoot. Yup yup, plus the Thin Men drop onto elevated positions, and are armed with Light Plasma Rifles, which give +10 aim. Added to the height advantage, the fact that Thin Men can leap up to the tops of buildings at will and the fact that there's a lot of verticality to the stage, and it's Thin Man Hell.
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legoman727 posted:The Thin Men are talking. That's not entirely something made up for narrative. It's said at some point they can speak english just fine.
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Drakenel posted:That's not entirely something made up for narrative. It's said at some point they can speak english just fine. They just have this tendency to roll their S a bit too much at times.
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Feinne posted:The waves are fixed and placed in about the worst places they could be, if you found it easy you probably happened by luck or intuition to be in the right place to pick off the Thin Men as they dropped in. That or you just got really, really lucky with having Thin Men still be alive on the alien turn, because at this point in the game you expect a Thin Man to kill someone every time they shoot. But you have complete control over when they spawn. And while the map is tailor made for then men movement you can use the hard corners and rooftops to easily fall back without getting overwatched if a thin man lands in a bad spot. Or maybe I just spent too much time playing the original and went into the expansion with a much greater knowledge than the average player(I mean, it's not like the game ever makes it obvious that the overwatch drops are triggered by the vip moving into certain areas)
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FoolyCharged posted:But you have complete control over when they spawn. And while the map is tailor made for then men movement you can use the hard corners and rooftops to easily fall back without getting overwatched if a thin man lands in a bad spot. Or maybe I just spent too much time playing the original and went into the expansion with a much greater knowledge than the average player(I mean, it's not like the game ever makes it obvious that the overwatch drops are triggered by the vip moving into certain areas) Again, yeah, you can totally control the drops but you don't know that sight unseen.
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Drakenel posted:That's not entirely something made up for narrative. It's said at some point they can speak english just fine. Not that it stops Vahlen from ripping open their skulls and shoving electrodes in to read their brains as they die in agony when she interrogates them. Lady is scary.
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Here's an idea: Once you get South America's continent bonus and are torturing aliens anyway, characterize your designated covert ops trooper as that captured Exalt agent with his mind broken.
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Night10194 posted:Not that it stops Vahlen from ripping open their skulls and shoving electrodes in to read their brains as they die in agony when she interrogates them.
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IMJack posted:Here's an idea: Once you get South America's continent bonus and are torturing aliens anyway, characterize your designated covert ops trooper as that captured Exalt agent with his mind broken. So the guy who looked exactly like an EXALT trooper was brainwashed, surgically modified to look like an XCOM trooper, and then sent to infilitrate EXALT. they'll never suspect
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Hang on. Dr. Vahlen's mentor was from South America... she's German... Oh... oh god... 
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Doctor Vahlen is Krieger?
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If she has clones and tehy clone bone I am out. (Oh my god, Vahlen's holo-spouse would be amazing)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ftb09o6O7sw Depicted: Vahlen's private experiments with Meld.
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Agent Interrobang posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ftb09o6O7sw My God, I need to watch that show.
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Bruceski posted:My God, I need to watch that show.
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Archer is pretty funny but I have difficulty watching a show where everybody is all rear end in a top hat, all the time.
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Speedball posted:Archer is pretty funny but I have difficulty watching a show where everybody is all rear end in a top hat, all the time. It makes the rare moments when they aren't assholes even better
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 Hello, Commander. The Council has elected to... inform you of my popular Youtube channel. demota fucked around with this message at 15:35 on Sep 8, 2014 |
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Sep 8, 2014 04:03
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Right channel, wrong video!
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Endman posted:Hang on. Dr. Vahlen's mentor was from South America... she's German... I always assumed she's from one of the Benelux countries. Vahlen isn't a german name and her accent when she's talking german in the tutorial sounds a lot like people from there.
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Magni posted:I always assumed she's from one of the Benelux countries. Vahlen isn't a german name and her accent when she's talking german in the tutorial sounds a lot like people from there. She speaks some German in the tutorial, so I just sort of assumed.  But yeah, she could be from the low countries. Or Swiss or something.
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Eh, it's really only something I figured because I'm from Germany and have relatives in Luxemburg, so I can at least somewhat place the accent.
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Speedball posted:Right channel, wrong video! Whoops! I have corrected this error. demota fucked around with this message at 15:36 on Sep 8, 2014 |
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Sep 8, 2014 15:29
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Endman posted:Hang on. Dr. Vahlen's mentor was from South America... she's German... Is this 'horrifying' or 'confusion' here? And if there's a reference you're throwing, can you explain to the rest of the class?
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SwissArmyDruid posted:Paging ViceVirtuoso, paging ViceVirtuoso... I don't even own this game.
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Bloodly posted:Is this 'horrifying' or 'confusion' here? And if there's a reference you're throwing, can you explain to the rest of the class? The "Boys From Brazil" is a long-standing conspiracy theory/urban myth originating from a 1976 novel/film in which nazi scientists flee to South America to try and clone Hitler.
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Bloodly posted:Is this 'horrifying' or 'confusion' here? And if there's a reference you're throwing, can you explain to the rest of the class? deadly_pudding posted:The "Boys From Brazil" is a long-standing conspiracy theory/urban myth originating from a 1976 novel/film in which nazi scientists flee to South America to try and clone Hitler. It has nothing to do with a film. Read up on ratlines. Large numbers of Nazis escaped to South America, including doctor Josef Mengele.
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Well she clearly isn't, or she wouldn't be on the Project. She'd be with EXALT.
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I assure you, her mentor has nothing to do with Nazis. Really, you people...
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Speedball posted:I assure you, her mentor has nothing to do with Nazis. Really, you people... Hey, that's who the poster was thinking of. From you, honestly, I'd expect a South American Magical Girl rather than a Nazi.
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my dad posted:Hey, that's who the Absolutely not!
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NewMars posted:Doctor Vahlen is Krieger? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAfZCcfQ2-c Pictured: How guns are researched.
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I honestly forget if you get kill XP for stunning an alien. The wiki doesn't say. Anyone?
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I'm pretty sure you do. I can't say for certain, because you get XP from just surviving a mission, but I've had troops only stun stuff in a mission and still get promoted afterwards. I've never really payed attention, but I think mission kills and soldier kill count include stunned enemies. Also, according to the wiki, a successful stun counts for In The Zone.
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Zack Ater posted:I'm pretty sure you do. I can't say for certain, because you get XP from just surviving a mission, but I've had troops only stun stuff in a mission and still get promoted afterwards. I've never really payed attention, but I think mission kills and soldier kill count include stunned enemies. Also, according to the wiki, a successful stun counts for In The Zone. Why would you ever put your sniper that close to the fight?
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Vicevirtuoso posted:I don't even own this game. This can be rectified!
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Krysmphoenix posted:
While I never would, I can kind of see why you might. I think Speedball said we can discuss abilities and such freely, but I don't remember definitely, so I'll tag this just in case: If you're playing without Training Roulette, they're the only ones to get Low Profile, so with Mimetic Skim they could run up unnoticed, stun, and then retreat again. It could certainly be a use for a covert ops sniper, outside of covert ops; I tend to give them some skills I wouldn't otherwise pick for a sniper (gunslinger, battle scanner - not that they're bad, I just prefer the other ones), so I end up never using them after a point.
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Speedball posted:I honestly forget if you get kill XP for stunning an alien. The wiki doesn't say. Anyone? ufopaedia.org doesn't mention stunning aliens for XP: http://ufopaedia.org/index.php?title=Soldiers_(EU2012)#Earning_XPs
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