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alarumklok posted:Yeah, the game runs like absolute garbage and I'm frightened about losing my pixels, so I'm taking a hiatus until they get their poo poo together, which is good because I just realized DkS2 has DLC. Nanites are eating like 1/10 shots, I randomly drop to 15 FPS and stay that way until I restart, random crashes and freezes, and the assortment of new and exciting bugs are much worse than invisible rocks in biolabs or the usual SOE poo poo. An indefinite hiatus it is.
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Nakar posted:"Maybe VS players just suck" is a hilarious theory, but it's also seemingly at odds with reality. Any time someone goes "All people who play 'X' just suck", they are wrong. It doesn't even matter the game. The same goes for people who scream about how OP TR guns are, and how if the TR weren't bad they would Warpgate everyone. When something is actually overpowered people flock to it. I remember NC sitting at 45% of Global Population for a couple of weeks when Surgile Quadshot broke Planetside 1. If TR guns were as good as half of the people in this thread think they are TR would be constantly at a massive global population advantage.
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Personally I run a grip on just about every gun on my TR/VS alts (unless it takes exmag or ALS), but have never bought a single one on my NC main. Not even on light assault loadouts (where the laser hardly does anything, since if you're not ADSing you're jumping and maxing out the CoF anyway), because I have trouble even telling the difference in the first place.
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Sep 8, 2014 21:37
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Ryuga Death posted:What's better on the MSR-W? Grip or laser? Is it meant to be a hipfire LMG thing that looks like an AR? I air auraxed this gun with a grip. Put it on the enemies right shoulder and ride the recoil up to the head.
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Sep 8, 2014 21:40
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Xae posted:Any time someone goes "All people who play 'X' just suck", they are wrong. It doesn't even matter the game. Speaking of crazy weapons that nobody seems to use, I picked up the Banshee for my TR alt...  If they put that thing on the harasser, the PPA arguments are going to look like mild disagreements in comparison. BabelFish fucked around with this message at 22:04 on Sep 8, 2014 |
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Sep 8, 2014 21:53
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BabelFish posted:If they put that thing on the harasser, the PPA fart While the rest of us patiently wait for Higby to decide that shotguns shouldn't be poo poo 
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Sep 8, 2014 21:57
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Xae posted:Any time someone goes "All people who play 'X' just suck", they are wrong. It doesn't even matter the game. Bullshit is basically "This thing is just good, straight-up all-around good, where other things like it have to compromise in ways this thing doesn't." The TORQ is basically bullshit, maybe borderline OP, but it's not actually OP. It would be OP if it had the Cycler TRV's DPS and it does not. Similarly the Terminus is bullshit in that it's just an absolutely rock-solid weapon in every sense with no weakness, but it's called so slightly less because VS have desperately needed something that good. But it's not OP either. Mercies and Blueshifts are bullshit on MAXes because they have more accuracy than MAX weapons are generally meant to have, but they're probably not overpowered. The Heavy shield is bullshit, but it isn't overpowered and is arguably supposed to be bullshit as being bullshit combat gods is part of the Heavy Assault package. Overpowered is basically "This thing is so polarizing that anyone who has access to it must use it and fighting against it is utterly un-fun." ZOE was overpowered; if you ran VS MAX you ran it because it was ridiculously advantageous to move that fast, and it wasn't any fun to fight against MAXes that walked faster than infantry sprinted. Prowler HE at launch was overpowered, it simply chewed through infantry at a ludicrous rate compared to Lightning/Magrider/Vanguard HE (which were themselves pretty crazy). The Liberator has at various times been overpowered, especially Liberatorside in beta. Similarly there's "crap" guns and "underpowered" guns. Battle Rifles are "crap" guns in that they're highly specialized and below-average in damage output for the difficulty of use, but they're actually perfectly serviceable guns. The Longshot is crap in that it's just another sniper rifle and has a weird gimmick. The Corvus is crap in that it's got too little damage output for its accuracy, but it does at least have the accuracy it promises. The Spiker is underpowered, in that it is absolute dogshit people only use for a laugh. The Ranger is underpowered, in that it's shittier than a Walker which does everything better than it does. The Aspis Phalanx Anti-Infantry turret is underpowered, in that it sucks and is not bulky enough to stand up to rockets and air and kills mans less efficiently than the Anti-Vehicle version.
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Xae posted:Any time someone goes "All people who play 'X' just suck", they are wrong. It doesn't even matter the game. TR tends to attract horrible people which is why they are struggling on almost every server. VS tends to attract the try hard MMO raider types that work together really well which is why VS hits above its weight on most servers. NC is the middle ground with horrible players flocking to the good weapons and the try hards admitting they could do alot better with better weapons. When VS/NC primary groups 4th faction as TR they do abnormally good. The same thing can be said with VS primary groups playing as NC--compare vonics NC char to his VS one and you'll see the difference that NC guns give a VS player. This is why guns should be lootable, you'd clearly see the unbalanced guns with usage. How many NC/TR players would loot and use a pulsar/corvus vs how many NC/VS players would be using the TROQ/reaper/tross/gauss/cycler/sabr13.
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Arghy posted:This is why guns should be lootable, you'd clearly see the unbalanced guns with usage. How many NC/TR players would loot and use a pulsar/corvus vs how many NC/VS players would be using the TROQ/reaper/tross/gauss/cycler/sabr13. I support this solely for the fun of a combined Phoenix/Lancer camp.
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Sep 8, 2014 22:31
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I would loot MCGs forever Bonus points for cross-class pickups, I would place an AI turret as cover and then use the MCG in place of it because the gun on the AI turret is dogshit, also I have practically infinite ammo because I set up an ammo pack 5 feet away (this is exactly why it doesn't happen) Anime Schoolgirl fucked around with this message at 22:36 on Sep 8, 2014 |
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Sep 8, 2014 22:34
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I really miss the inventory Tetris from PS1, now that I think about it. I had a locker full of Repeaters and Beamers I took as trophies from other cloakers, and because I'm a hardcore logistics RPer I enjoyed bouncing around the back lines of Cyssor with an ATV full of explosives for genbusting.
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Sep 8, 2014 22:38
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If we had a locker system like in PS1, my locker would literally be full of TORQ's and only TORQ's.
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It doesn't need to be inventory tetris you can literally have a loving check box pop up when you kill someone giving you a chance to loot something off them. It could be a charger, nanites, a random weapon or a trophy. The gun would be of limited use so when you died you'd have a chance to damage the gun and lose access to it. You kill 15 TR and get 4 loot boxes, the loot box has an option of what you would like to do with it. You pick weapon from all 4 and it looks at the load out of who ever you killed to get that loot box and rolls to see what weapon your going to get. You get 1 carbine(trac 5), 1 pistol(repeater) and 2 AR's(TROQ). You then go to a terminal and edit your medics loadout to include the TROQ. You get killed 6 times while using the gun, on your loadout screen the TROQ now shows as (2) and the one you have equipped shows 69/100 as its durability. You have the option to repair your current TROQ by consuming the spare or just waiting till its finally destroyed and swapping to your spare. Oh poo poo i just created a massive content patch that requires minimal work besides some coding and swapping tracer color!
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Arghy posted:Oh poo poo i just created a massive content patch that requires minimal work besides some coding and swapping tracer color! If they change tracer colors for weapons, they'll end up breaking vehicle physics or something.
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rarbatrol posted:If they change tracer colors for weapons, they'll end up breaking vehicle physics or something. Considering they broke vehicle physics by changing some sunderer rendering issues a couple of patches ago, I can certainly see this happening.
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Well this is SOE the renown small indie developer with the worlds smallest dev team, its rude to expect to much from them.
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I would not be able to cope with being shot by lancers
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Arghy posted:It doesn't need to be inventory tetris you can literally have a loving check box pop up when you kill someone giving you a chance to loot something off them. It could be a charger, nanites, a random weapon or a trophy. The gun would be of limited use so when you died you'd have a chance to damage the gun and lose access to it. Yes, Arghy, the "minimal work patch" of adding a whole loot and durability system to a F2P MMOFPS. I guess it fits right alongside your "minor Lasher buff" that was a +66% dps increase plus some other stuff. ...Ahem, sorry. I meant: Arghy of the Galaxy Teenage Mutant Ninja Arghy If I Arghy Let's Be Arghy The
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Arghy posted:TR tends to attract horrible people which is why they are struggling on almost every server. VS tends to attract the try hard MMO raider types that work together really well which is why VS hits above its weight on most servers. NC is the middle ground with horrible players flocking to the good weapons and the try hards admitting they could do alot better with better weapons. By "most servers" you mean Emerald.
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Xae posted:Any time someone goes "All people who play 'X' just suck", they are wrong. It doesn't even matter the game. Why do you think the majority of pro-tier MLG outfits rolled VS in PS2? Hint: the Orion may have something to do with it.
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Durendal posted:Why do you think the majority of pro-tier MLG outfits rolled VS in PS2? Hint: the Orion may have something to do with it. Do you have any names? Because the ones I know of were VS in PS1.
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Durendal posted:Why do you think the majority of pro-tier MLG outfits rolled VS in PS2? Hint: the Orion may have something to do with it. But the anchor is just as good and you get access to all that other good NC stuff? I chose VS because VS has always appealed to me but if i were to choose a faction for competitive play i'd choose NC hands down every time. HA: anchor ME: gauss S LA: bandit EN: ACX IN: cyclone Thats pretty much the most cheese MLG loadout you can get and you have of course have options that are all awesome where VS is literally stuck with 1-2 guns to choose from thats all for MLG cheese.
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Arghy posted:But the anchor is just as good and you get access to all that other good NC stuff? I chose VS because VS has always appealed to me but if i were to choose a faction for competitive play i'd choose NC hands down every time. to sum up why the orion posts such insane stats, it's not just because its good, it's because it's the only real option VS HA has. When you only have one good gun, you're going to get really loving good at clicking heads with it.
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Mortimer posted:to sum up why the orion posts such insane stats, it's not just because its good, it's because it's the only real option VS HA has. When you only have one good gun, you're going to get really loving good at clicking heads with it. 
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Arghy posted:This is why guns should be lootable. What about craftable weapons? What if you could kill the various factions and get little bits of equipment through the implant drop system that you could mix together in the implant re-roller as a formula to make bootleg versions of a select few of the enemy's weapons?
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Holy poo poo they fixed splash in VR on test! Oh yeah also the new striker is on it.
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Arghy posted:It doesn't need to be inventory tetris you can literally have a loving check box pop up when you kill someone giving you a chance to loot something off them. It could be a charger, nanites, a random weapon or a trophy. The gun would be of limited use so when you died you'd have a chance to damage the gun and lose access to it. Tropic Arghy.
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Mortimer posted:to sum up why the orion posts such insane stats, it's not just because its good, it's because it's the only real option VS HA has. When you only have one good gun, you're going to get really loving good at clicking heads with it. Source your dumb forumside posts please e: also Arghy movie title posts sick jokes
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Pand posted:Holy poo poo they fixed splash in VR on test! Oh yeah also the new striker is on it. Functional VR splash is also on live!  and it only took them a year and a half to get around to it too
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For the TR MAX, should it have two of the same chainguns or a different type of chaingun on each arm? Like a mercy and a mutilator? Also, after trying out the pounders in a fight, why would/does anyone bother with the fractures?
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Pand posted:Holy poo poo they fixed splash in VR on test! Oh yeah also the new striker is on it. Tell me about [the new striker]
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^^ Well, it is a handheld coyote launcher now. The Damage output is fairly low and it has for some reason a big splash radius. Ryuga Death posted:
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Ryuga Death posted:For the TR MAX, should it have two of the same chainguns or a different type of chaingun on each arm? Like a mercy and a mutilator? Fractures were amazing bullshit when released, also easier to hit stuff at range?
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Arghy posted:requires minimal work besides some coding! Further proof Arghy has no loving clue what he's saying 99% of the time.
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Arghy posted:It doesn't need to be inventory tetris you can literally have a loving check box pop up when you kill someone giving you a chance to loot something off them. It could be a charger, nanites, a random weapon or a trophy. The gun would be of limited use so when you died you'd have a chance to damage the gun and lose access to it. Looting doesn't sound fun at all. Glad that died with PS1.
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Ass_Burgerer posted:Functional VR splash is also on live! Now if only they could fix the engine. Again.
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Mortimer posted:to sum up why the orion posts such insane stats, it's not just because its good, it's because it's the only real option VS HA has. When you only have one good gun, you're going to get really loving good at clicking heads with it. Yes, because .75 ADS plus HA shields in a 143/750 package with the second best LMG accuracy in the game has nothing to do with it being used all the time. Also ZOE was always balanced and the PPA is fine.
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Durendal posted:Why do you think the majority of pro-tier MLG outfits rolled VS in PS2? Hint: the Orion may have something to do with it. Which ones changed factions? Most of the ones I recognized stayed the same. kidRiot posted:Looting doesn't sound fun at all. Glad that died with PS1. Looting and inventory management were dumb and I'm glad they're gone. The new system is just about as good with infinitely less pain the rear end when you accidentally overwrite a load out.
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Pand posted:^^ Now where did I put that, oh here we go: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3ALwKeSEYs
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SOE are shooting themselves in the foot by not having looting/lockers/whatever is PS2 for one simple reason: Stationcash. Imagine how much more they'd make selling 5-packs of 'looted' TORQs to VS/NC players at like 200SC a pop or something.
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