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Kenshin
Jan 10, 2007
Gearchat:
http://photorumors.com/2014/09/05/sigma-to-announce-new-150-600mm-f5-6-3-dg-os-hsm-and-18-300mm-f3-5-6-3-dc-macro-os-hsm-lenses/

Sigma is launching their own competitor to Tamron's 150-600mm lens. I love my Sigma 120-400 and I was going to buy the Tamron this fall, but I'll wait for pricing on the Sigma before I decide. Competition is good!

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800peepee51doodoo
Mar 1, 2001

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Scoff the festune
That was a cool, unexpected announcement. A lot of the rumor sites were expecting a 300-600 but I think people are going to be stoked to have a Tammy competitor. The speculation is that the Sigma should be a better optical performer because of the larger filter size (105mm vs the Tammy 95mm) but its significantly heavier and probably more expensive.

In other good gear news, the Nikon D750 sounds like its gonna be dope as hell for birding. If the rumors about specs and pricing are true, its going to be a $2500 action full frame with a faster burst, competitive AF and better sensor than the 5DIII. Its been really entertaining watching canon fans lose their loving minds over the last few days.

Kenshin
Jan 10, 2007
I was really hoping for a D7200 or something so I could get a high performance crop-sensor body! As it is I might just stick with my D3200 for a while longer and if it doesn't look like Nikon is releasing a high-end crop sensor body I'll just pick up a D7100. I'm (probably) heading to Borneo (Kota Kinabalu) in March so I'd like to be on a better body than the D3200 by then.

But yeah, I'm interested to see the weight difference between the Sigma and Tamron. Unless it is significantly heavier than the Tamron (and/or significantly more expensive) I'll probably go for it since for me Sigma is a known quantity and I've had nothing but great experience using the 120-400mm.

800peepee51doodoo
Mar 1, 2001

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Scoff the festune

Kenshin posted:

But yeah, I'm interested to see the weight difference between the Sigma and Tamron. Unless it is significantly heavier than the Tamron (and/or significantly more expensive) I'll probably go for it since for me Sigma is a known quantity and I've had nothing but great experience using the 120-400mm.

Weight: Sigma - 2860 g / 100.88 oz. Tamron - 1951 g / 68.8 oz.

So, almost a kilo heavier. More glass = more weight.

I wouldn't be holding my breath for any new high end crop camera from Nikon. They don't seem too concerned about answering the 7D/7DII

Kenshin
Jan 10, 2007

800peepee51doodoo posted:

Weight: Sigma - 2860 g / 100.88 oz. Tamron - 1951 g / 68.8 oz.

So, almost a kilo heavier. More glass = more weight.

I wouldn't be holding my breath for any new high end crop camera from Nikon. They don't seem too concerned about answering the 7D/7DII

Hot drat that's quite the increase. Guess I'd better keep up with my weightlifting schedule.

They're going to have to really justify that much more weight with quality (and by not getting the price too much higher than the Tamron).

800peepee51doodoo
Mar 1, 2001

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Weight is a big negative with all of the new Global Vision Sigma lenses. I think a lot of it is that they are getting sharpness improvements by increasing the image circle so the sensor is seeing more of the center rather than the edges where IQ starts to fall off. That means bigger, heavier glass and they don't really seem concerned about compensating for it elsewhere, like using magnesium for the bodies like Canon does, for instance. Oh well, there's always trade offs for the price, I guess. If it helps, that lens weighs about what my 300 f2.8 does and I'm totally used to carrying that around. It doesn't really feel that heavy after a while.

Kenshin
Jan 10, 2007

800peepee51doodoo posted:

Weight is a big negative with all of the new Global Vision Sigma lenses. I think a lot of it is that they are getting sharpness improvements by increasing the image circle so the sensor is seeing more of the center rather than the edges where IQ starts to fall off. That means bigger, heavier glass and they don't really seem concerned about compensating for it elsewhere, like using magnesium for the bodies like Canon does, for instance. Oh well, there's always trade offs for the price, I guess. If it helps, that lens weighs about what my 300 f2.8 does and I'm totally used to carrying that around. It doesn't really feel that heavy after a while.

Yeah. I've rented the Nikon 300mm f/2.8 VRII a few times (it's about 100g more than the new Sigma), and don't think I had too much of an issue. I'll probably rent that again this month and make sure I don't mind carrying the weight around, and will just stick with my 120-400mm for longer/steeper hikes where total weight carried becomes an issue.

That is of course assuming that the Sigma is a similar price to the Tamron--if it's closer to $1500 I'm less likely to consider it unless it is a vastly superior lens to the Tamron.

EDIT: I realize how absurd it is to hook up the Nikon or even this new Sigma to a D3200. :v:

Kenshin fucked around with this message at 19:31 on Sep 8, 2014

800peepee51doodoo
Mar 1, 2001

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Kenshin posted:

EDIT: I realize how absurd it is to hook up the Nikon or even this new Sigma to a D3200. :v:

Hah, I ran into a guy once when I was out looking for Short Eared Owls that had a Canon 500mm f4 IS VII mounted on a T2i. $10,000 lens, $500 camera.

Kenshin
Jan 10, 2007

800peepee51doodoo posted:

Hah, I ran into a guy once when I was out looking for Short Eared Owls that had a Canon 500mm f4 IS VII mounted on a T2i. $10,000 lens, $500 camera.

If anything it's been one hell of a lesson for me that the lenses I use are largely more important than the camera body. Not that I wouldn't love better ISO performance, better autofocus, etc, but the quality of lenses and understanding concepts like shutter speed, correct aperture settings, and practice in what lighting I can shoot in have been far more valuable than if I had a higher-end camera body.

800peepee51doodoo
Mar 1, 2001

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Totally. Bodies come and go, experience and lenses last a lot longer.

Fraction
Mar 27, 2010

CATS RULE DOGS DROOL

FERRETS ARE ALSO PRETTY MEH, HONESTLY



Female Mallard by straygiraffe, on Flickr

BeastOfExmoor
Aug 19, 2003

I will be gone, but not forever.

800peepee51doodoo posted:

Ruff it is. We've got a couple of them down on the Oregon coast right now, too. I guess there's a buff breasted up near Astoria. If the weather isn't poo poo and it hangs around, I might try to find that guy in the next day or two.


I was down there two weekends ago looking for Buff Breasted. Completely missed them only to come home and find out someone had found "at least three" along a beach I had driven that same day. :(

TheMirage
Nov 6, 2002
Hey Mallard buddy!

Young Mallard by justincook5376, on Flickr

I'd also like to contribute to the yellowlegs shots:

Yellowlegs by justincook5376, on Flickr

Disappointed my yellowlegs shots didn't come out better, i was super close. They looked good in the viewfinder!

Urban invaders need love too:

Rock Dove by justincook5376, on Flickr

Finally, a Nuthatch

White-breasted Nuthatch by justincook5376, on Flickr

TheMirage fucked around with this message at 00:08 on Sep 9, 2014

VendaGoat
Nov 1, 2005
Blargh I want a better zoom lens so bad and you folks are not helping! :)

torgeaux
Dec 31, 2004
I serve...
Ok, settling in to the new place in Colorado. No real raptor sightings (dense forest around where I live, gonna have to find some better viewing locations). The local birds are very different from northern Virginia.

Stellar's Jays, and they're assholes.

Stellars Jay by torgeaux, on Flickr

Lots of hummingbird action.

Better shot of hummingbird by torgeaux, on Flickr

And, these guys. Lots, and lots, like Hitchcock levels of lots of these guys.

Glaring by torgeaux, on Flickr

800peepee51doodoo
Mar 1, 2001

Volute the swarth, trawl betwixt phonotic
Scoff the festune

torgeaux posted:

Stellar's Jays, and they're assholes.

All corvids are assholes, but like, the cool assholes that wear leather jackets and are hella mad at society. One time I watched a Cooper's Hawk in a full attack dive totally blindside a Stellar's Jay right out of a tree. The jay straight hosed that hawk up with some crazy ground fighting techniques and sent it packing, cawing after it. Don't gently caress with corvids.

Moon Potato
May 12, 2003

Can anyone help with ID on this? It was skimming for insects in a freshwater marsh today (near Humboldt Bay in northern California). My first guess was some kind of plover or turnstone, but after looking through guides and GIS, none of them seem like a solid match.


BeastOfExmoor
Aug 19, 2003

I will be gone, but not forever.

Moon Potato posted:

Can anyone help with ID on this? It was skimming for insects in a freshwater marsh today (near Humboldt Bay in northern California). My first guess was some kind of plover or turnstone, but after looking through guides and GIS, none of them seem like a solid match.




I can't decide if this is a young Franklin's Gull or a Bonaparte's Gull. I'm leaning Bonaparte's.

Moon Potato
May 12, 2003

BeastOfExmoor posted:

I can't decide if this is a young Franklin's Gull or a Bonaparte's Gull. I'm leaning Bonaparte's.
Yeah, it looks like it could be either one of those transitioning from its juvenile plumage to its first winter plumage. Hopefully it will stick around until there's a break in the clouds so I can get a better image of it.

A Long-billed Curlew yanking a massive marine worm out of the mud

curlew-worm by Redwood Planet, on Flickr

Snowy Egrets squabbling

snowy-fight by Redwood Planet, on Flickr

Despite a valiant effort, this pelican failed to turn itself inside out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SI-vYO1OHmo

Moon Potato fucked around with this message at 09:35 on Sep 9, 2014

Pablo Bluth
Sep 7, 2007

I've made a huge mistake.

BeastOfExmoor posted:

I can't decide if this is a young Franklin's Gull or a Bonaparte's Gull. I'm leaning Bonaparte's.
It's a gull. Just a gull. All gulls are the same. The so-called species are just a conspiracy by the publishers of bird guides...

InternetJunky
May 25, 2002

Slowly going through more Kenya shots.

Here's a Grey-headed Kingfisher





Did anyone here ever get the Tamron? I've only ever seen a few bird shots taken with a Tamron and they looked pretty nice. I'd love to hear/see first-hand accounts of the lens.

The guy who lead my safari was a pretty big Canon guy and he was saying that Canon's new 100-400 is coming out soon. Is this true? I haven't heard it anywhere else.


Moon Potato posted:

Can anyone help with ID on this? It was skimming for insects in a freshwater marsh today (near Humboldt Bay in northern California). My first guess was some kind of plover or turnstone, but after looking through guides and GIS, none of them seem like a solid match.

I know people seen to have settled on gull for this, but I think the juvi black tern looks exactly like this as well.

800peepee51doodoo
Mar 1, 2001

Volute the swarth, trawl betwixt phonotic
Scoff the festune

InternetJunky posted:

The guy who lead my safari was a pretty big Canon guy and he was saying that Canon's new 100-400 is coming out soon. Is this true? I haven't heard it anywhere else.

That's been the rumor for like 5 years. If they do update it this year, it'll be a total surprise. The current rumors are for a new 400 f4 DO IS II for some reason.

Those pics are dope as poo poo btw.

InternetJunky
May 25, 2002

800peepee51doodoo posted:

That's been the rumor for like 5 years. If they do update it this year, it'll be a total surprise. The current rumors are for a new 400 f4 DO IS II for some reason.

Those pics are dope as poo poo btw.
Thanks.

I know there's been so many rumours about the 100-400, but the way this guy was talking about it made it sound like the specs were already released. I've stopped listening to all Canon rumours years ago while waiting for the 7D v2 to come out, which has always been "right around the corner".

Moon Potato
May 12, 2003

InternetJunky posted:

I know people seen to have settled on gull for this, but I think the juvi black tern looks exactly like this as well.
There we go. That one looks like a perfect match.

(Audubon's image)

The behavior was more tern-like than gull-like, too - it was in flight the whole time I was out, making passes around the marsh and skimming for food.

Also, holy poo poo that's a beautiful kingfisher.

BeastOfExmoor
Aug 19, 2003

I will be gone, but not forever.
I thought Black Tern for a moment because the behavior did indeed sound perfect. I didn't realize how little Black Terns actually looked like Terns.

Here's a loving Tern (or two):
Elegant Terns by beastofexmoor, on Flickr

Really mediocre lighting and a bad angle, but here's my newest life bird, a Northern Goshawk. Only the second county record in eBird.
Lake Janus Northern Goshawk by beastofexmoor, on Flickr


Here's a few from my first pelagic birding trip. Shooting birds from a moving boat in the middle of the ocean is miserable. I have so many out of focus shots :(

Buller's Shearwater
by beastofexmoor, on Flickr


Red Phalaropes
by beastofexmoor, on Flickr


Fork-Tailed Storm-Petrels
by beastofexmoor, on Flickr

Bubbacub
Apr 17, 2001


This one is great! I like the reflections.

BeastOfExmoor
Aug 19, 2003

I will be gone, but not forever.
I forgot how long its been since I've pushed photos to Flickr. Here's a bunch more from a work trip I took to the Fargo area in May.


20140519-20140519-_MG_8450.jpg
by beastofexmoor, on Flickr


20140519-20140519-_MG_8440.jpg
by beastofexmoor, on Flickr

20140519-20140519-_MG_8407.jpg by beastofexmoor, on Flickr

20140519-20140519-_MG_8372.jpg by beastofexmoor, on Flickr



20140520-20140520-_MG_8515.jpg
by beastofexmoor, on Flickr


20140520-20140520-_MG_8488.jpg
by beastofexmoor, on Flickr


Chestnut-Collared Longspur
by beastofexmoor, on Flickr

20140523-20140523-_MG_8615.jpg by beastofexmoor, on Flickr

Wilson's Snipe by beastofexmoor, on Flickr

Greater Prairie-Chickens by beastofexmoor, on Flickr

Canada Warbler by beastofexmoor, on Flickr

StarkingBarfish
Jun 25, 2006

Novus Ordo Seclorum

Kenshin posted:

EDIT: I realize how absurd it is to hook up the Nikon or even this new Sigma to a D3200. :v:

I just bought the tamron in nikon mount. I'm using it on a D5100 and it looks hilarious. It's like those 1/2 pint glasses that are identical proportions to a full pint glass, being held by a gorilla.

Now to go find some far away things to take bad pictures of.

TheMirage
Nov 6, 2002
Any guesses on this one? My guess is either a young Coopers or young Sharp Shinned Hawk

Coopers or Sharpshinned? by justincook5376, on Flickr

Coopers or Sharpshinned? by justincook5376, on Flickr

Crow vs. Hawk by justincook5376, on Flickr

accipter
Sep 12, 2003

TheMirage posted:

Any guesses on this one? My guess is either a young Coopers or young Sharp Shinned Hawk

That looks like a northern harrier to me. Especially, considering that it looks like meadows and marsh in the surrounding area -- instead of forest. Northern harriers love to fly like 20 ft off the ground and are best identified by the white band above the tail (called the rump patch).

TheMirage
Nov 6, 2002
I ruled that out because it doesn't have the defining white butt. Here is a pic from the back

Hawk Back by justincook5376, on Flickr

accipter
Sep 12, 2003
That definitely tail definitely looks like a Cooper's Hawk.

800peepee51doodoo
Mar 1, 2001

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I'd call it a juvie Cooper's. It's too big to be a Sharpie, I think. The head seems farther forward/longer, too. Def not a harrier. Harriers have owlish faces and longer, thinner wings. Accipiters have broadish wings.

Kenshin
Jan 10, 2007

800peepee51doodoo posted:

I'd call it a juvie Cooper's. It's too big to be a Sharpie, I think. The head seems farther forward/longer, too. Def not a harrier. Harriers have owlish faces and longer, thinner wings. Accipiters have broadish wings.

I was going to say Cooper's as well, if that is a Raven in those pictures like it looks like.

BetterLekNextTime
Jul 22, 2008

It's all a matter of perspective...
Grimey Drawer
I'd guess Coops too. Aside from the size, I think Sharpies are supposed to fly with their wrists a little more forward, while the front line of the wing is pretty straight on a Coops like it shows in the first photo.

TheMirage
Nov 6, 2002
Coops it is. Thanks all

Moon Potato
May 12, 2003

That's a handsome young cooper's - nice shots, TheMirage.

Apparently that juvi Black Tern I spotted the other day was the first one to be documented at Arcata Marsh since 2006. After I posted it to Facebook, the birders around here went nuts and started showing up in droves to get a look at it. I've had bad luck with being in the right place at the right time to get an interesting shot of it, but I at least got a clearer picture of it as it flew back to its roosting spot on an island today.

black-tern-flight by Redwood Planet, on Flickr

The Belted Kingfisher that I've been filming and photographing for a while is getting used to having me around and is letting me get considerably closer to it than it used to.

queenfisher-chatter by Redwood Planet, on Flickr

The little splashes here are the smelt freaking out as the kingfisher flies low over the water

queenfisher-smelt by Redwood Planet, on Flickr

This is the shot I've been trying to get for the last couple months.

queenfisher-catch by Redwood Planet, on Flickr

A Peregrine Falcon flew directly over me on its way to hunt a flock of Greater Yellowlegs

peregrine-soaring by Redwood Planet, on Flickr

Moon Potato fucked around with this message at 09:18 on Sep 11, 2014

TheMirage
Nov 6, 2002

Moon Potato posted:

The Belted Kingfisher that I've been filming and photographing for a while is getting used to having me around and is letting me get considerably closer to it than it used to.

queenfisher-chatter by Redwood Planet, on Flickr

This is the shot I've been trying to get for the last couple months.

queenfisher-catch by Redwood Planet, on Flickr


Patience is a virtue! Very nice shots!

Fraction
Mar 27, 2010

CATS RULE DOGS DROOL

FERRETS ARE ALSO PRETTY MEH, HONESTLY


Man I need to get in on this cool bird photoing business. All I have are pigeons and more ducks :saddowns: Even when I get out to the countryside there isn't much variation, and anything cool that I do find flees before I can even get it in range of my 70-300mm. :sigh:


Mallard by straygiraffe, on Flickr


Pigeon in flight by straygiraffe, on Flickr

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Kenshin
Jan 10, 2007
Uh, apparently Sigma is going to release two 150-600mm lenses:

http://www.dpreview.com/articles/1075466394/sigma-announces-two-150-600mm-f-5-6-3-dg-os-hsm-zooms

The stats that leaked were for the heavier pro ("Sport") model. It'll be interesting to see the price and image quality difference.

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