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Brown Moses posted:Supposedly Russia Today just attacked me, part of which was falsely claiming I was on the dole, anyone happen to see it? Sounds like you're doing good work.
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If we crank up nuclear weapon manufacturing again wouldn't that be a Federal jobs program? If we're working with atoms again maybe we should focus on nuclear power instead.
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Sep 9, 2014 19:59
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Holy poo poo so apparently good ol' Pravda has advanced into the information age with an English website: United Totalitarian Police States does have a nice ring to it.
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Sep 9, 2014 20:03
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Russia's press speak as though we are already at war, perhaps they possess wishful thinking? Be careful, etc.
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Sep 9, 2014 20:04
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Typo posted:Just implement an upvote/downvote system on your comment section, that'll keep the trolls down at least Look at any news site with up/down voting's comments and you'll see that isn't the case.
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Sep 9, 2014 20:15
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Post the interview, I want to read the Americanist's analysis.
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Sep 9, 2014 20:17
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Might I suggest charging $0.25 to make a comments post. 
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Sep 9, 2014 20:17
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Typo posted:Holy poo poo so apparently good ol' Pravda has advanced into the information age with an English website: Lol, literally а у вас негров линчуют.
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Sep 9, 2014 20:19
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Typo posted:Holy poo poo so apparently good ol' Pravda has advanced into the information age with an English website: Pravda.ru has been around forever and has always been a WND-esque lizard people conspiracy website. It is not affiliated with the Pravda of the USSR days, which is still around and is still the official newspaper of the Communist Party. John McCain did not know this and published a very angry editorial on Pravda.ru a few years ago, because he is an idiot.
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Sep 9, 2014 20:25
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Heliosicle posted:Look at any news site with up/down voting's comments and you'll see that isn't the case. Yeah, all of the Ukraine-related news on CBC gets flooded with Russian trolls who upvote each others' (or their own) comments 50-odd times. Today's wisdom is that the high-velocity objects that struck MH17 must have been bullets from a Ukrainian plane's machinegun. I don't know how many people even bother to read those comments but it seems like only limited effort is required to get a few tens of votes to spam the site. Fortunately, the default ordering is by date, not by upvotes.
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Sep 9, 2014 20:45
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Tagesschau and Spiegel are also full of 'See? It was homonazi bullets after all!' comments.
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Sep 9, 2014 20:50
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Netherlands doing some helpful Ready-For-The-Arctic renovation projects? https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BxG0a3gIcAAxcCZ.jpg:large
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Sep 9, 2014 20:56
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Here's my contribution on MH17 on Sky News https://skynews.grabyo.com/g/v/iWzhIQxAoll
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Sep 9, 2014 20:59
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Brown Moses posted:Here's my contribution on MH17 on Sky News You had mentioned something earlier about using social media aggregation software for intelligence purposes like this and you were going to work with a company to develop some of these processes. Any updates on that stuff? Seems like a very interesting potential technology.
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Sep 9, 2014 21:25
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Gunktacular posted:You had mentioned something earlier about using social media aggregation software for intelligence purposes like this and you were going to work with a company to develop some of these processes. Any updates on that stuff? Seems like a very interesting potential technology. I've helped out CrisisNET with their platform, that's very much about crunching data and turning it into something usable, and I'm currently working with Right Now Media on a proposal to create a site based on their Sport Right Now site, which allows social media accounts to be tagged in a database, then sorted on their front end. They've done it for football teams, I'm doing for Syrian opposition groups, to bring order to the 1000s of Syrian social media accounts. Just saw the Russia Today clip, it was pretty funny really. They've got Bryan MacDonald giving his "expert" analysis, he deduces I'm on the dole because "they're" (Bellingcat) are on Twitter all day, and implies some nefarious funding. The Russia Today host then goes on to suggest "citizen reporters" are a "dangerous trend, to say the least", and Bryan adds "anyone can say anything when they're anonymous, it's called trolling I think". I hope they get the clip on YouTube so I can share it, it's really peak Russia Today.
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Sep 9, 2014 21:48
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Pimpmust posted:Netherlands doing some helpful Ready-For-The-Arctic renovation projects? Hauling what looks to be a pair of Akula SSNs?  What's the story behind this? e: Did some searching; Russia contracted with the company Dockwise to haul two very decrepit Akula I SSNs from their Pacific Fleet base to Severodvinsk for overhaul. TasogareNoKagi fucked around with this message at 23:27 on Sep 9, 2014 |
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Sep 9, 2014 21:51
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Brown Moses posted:The Russia Today host then goes on to suggest "citizen reporters" are a "dangerous trend, to say the least", and Bryan adds "anyone can say anything when they're anonymous, it's called trolling I think". I hope they get the clip on YouTube so I can share it, it's really peak Russia Today. Heh, I think they might be onto something there. How are you dealing with translating the vast amount of material you go though? Do you speak/read russian, or do you have some people helping you?
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Sep 9, 2014 21:57
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Gunktacular posted:How are you dealing with translating the vast amount of material you go though? Do you speak/read russian, or do you have some people helping you? A lot of the Russian stuff is being done by Russian speakers, so it's not an issue, and I can ask them whenever needed. Here's the Russia today clip, starts at 5:39 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDvCzzrYLM0&t=339s
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Sep 9, 2014 22:02
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Brown Moses posted:I've helped out CrisisNET with their platform, that's very much about crunching data and turning it into something usable, and I'm currently working with Right Now Media on a proposal to create a site based on their Sport Right Now site, which allows social media accounts to be tagged in a database, then sorted on their front end. They've done it for football teams, I'm doing for Syrian opposition groups, to bring order to the 1000s of Syrian social media accounts. Looking forward to seeing this.
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Sep 9, 2014 22:02
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Brown Moses posted:A lot of the Russian stuff is being done by Russian speakers, so it's not an issue, and I can ask them whenever needed. What's the mentality behind these people? Particularly the western ones who go on RT. Do they genuinely believe this nonsense or are they just cynical paid shills?
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Sep 9, 2014 22:31
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Both. The human mind is adaptable, and is very good at rationalizing an ideology that also serves the individual's self-interest. This is part of why paranoid schizophrenics can run sites selling different, conflicting conspiracy theories to other conspiracy theorists. Institutions can exploit this. If you pay someone to say something and give them a way to believe it, they will usually start believing it.
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Sep 9, 2014 22:33
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Brown Moses posted:A lot of the Russian stuff is being done by Russian speakers, so it's not an issue, and I can ask them whenever needed. Well, are you on the dole?  (Who is Bryan MacDonald? In-house mouthpiece?)
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Sep 9, 2014 22:47
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El Scotch posted:Well, are you on the dole? This guy, he's been to journalism school, and is therefore a Proper Journalist.
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Sep 9, 2014 22:51
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These RT guys are state-controlled propagandists and warmongers. I imagine there might be some RUSSIA STRONG sentiments, but I'm fairly sure they're perfectly aware of what they're doing and the repercussions thereof, since they couldn't do their job, to censor and falsify information to fit with the Russian government's goals while shifting focus and blame from actual issues ravaging Russia to minorities and other designated targets, properly if they didn't. Definitely cynical paid shills.
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Sep 9, 2014 22:54
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Congrats on the interview, Brown Moses. Well spoken and a great summary for such a small amount of time. I have to laugh a little bit at the presenter holding an iPad, walking in front of three monitors and standing in front of what looks like a Star Trek console. My two cents for the comments on your site — dump them. There doesn't seem to be any legitimate addition to the conversation based on what's been posted, and the people who think you're a crazy propagandist won't be convinced by the presence of a comments section. So drop them and keep the focus on your own work, and as others have suggested perhaps you could link your articles to some alternate website a la check desk where visitors can continue the discussion.
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Sep 9, 2014 22:58
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Cocoa Ninja posted:My two cents for the comments on your site — dump them. I disagree, I think the idea of logging IPs and looking for patterns is worth keeping in mind.
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Sep 9, 2014 23:01
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McDowell posted:I disagree, I think the idea of logging IPs and looking for patterns is worth keeping in mind. Could be interesting. Or even very interesting I think.
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Sep 9, 2014 23:06
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McDowell posted:I disagree, I think the idea of logging IPs and looking for patterns is worth keeping in mind. What's good about the comments for me is it kind of concentrates the crazy in one place that I was going to read anyway, and this way I'm aware of what arguments the propagandists are employing. A kind of rhetorical honeypot if you will.
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Sep 9, 2014 23:33
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Lucy Heartfilia posted:Tagesschau and Spiegel are also full of 'See? It was homonazi bullets after all!' comments. Germany's continuing march into the loving arms of Russia is the most hosed up thing about this. Mainly because they're the defacto head of the EU and shouldn't be trying to sphere themselves.
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Sep 9, 2014 23:44
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Regarde Aduck posted:Germany's continuing march into the loving arms of Russia is the most hosed up thing about this. Mainly because they're the defacto head of the EU and shouldn't be trying to sphere themselves. You'll note that he said comments as in the comments section that reads like a transcript of your average XBox Live game. The insinuation here is that Russian astroturfers are flooding european media comments with propaganda garbage.
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Sep 9, 2014 23:46
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Yeah. The media coverage of this conflict in Germany is acceptable as is usual.
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Sep 9, 2014 23:49
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Regarde Aduck posted:Germany's continuing march into the loving arms of Russia is the most hosed up thing about this. Mainly because they're the defacto head of the EU and shouldn't be trying to sphere themselves. Parochial interests getting in the way of a grand multi-state project that promises absolute gains for everyone if they would fully commit? Quelle surprise!  (or should I say "Was für eine Überraschung"?)
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Sep 9, 2014 23:53
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 Bellingcat has hit the Russian webspace, I repeat, Bellingcat has hit the Russian webspace.http://vz.ru/politics/2014/9/9/704737.html posted:They tried too hard *) - These sentences are written sarcastically in the original text, if it isn't clear in my translation.
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Sep 9, 2014 23:58
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See how the propaganda is shifting from it definitely was the homonazi junta to we will never know for sure?
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Sep 10, 2014 00:04
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eigenstate posted:
This is some of the most bizarre word salad I've ever read. Am I misreading it, or is the author basically just saying, "Nuh uh! That's not proof!" to Brown Moses' actual, tangible proof? Like, without elaborating on why he or she thinks it's not proof? Because the rest of his/her argument seems to hinge on that assertion.
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Sep 10, 2014 00:08
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bitcoin bastard posted:Keeping your options open if BM starts reporting on Israel? The only bad part about this stupid avatar is that it makes people think I support Israel (I don't.) Much preferred the sweatshop one, I could gladly get behind its supposed message.
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Sep 10, 2014 00:36
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Awesome work, Brown Moses. I enjoyed watching those, even the stupid RT video with the "Oh these bloggers on twitter think they're journalists." 
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Sep 10, 2014 00:58
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Literal homonazi spotted.
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Sep 10, 2014 01:05
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That's not even an appropriate representation of WWII. Russia won but with like 14 million dead.
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Vladimir Putin posted:That's not even an appropriate representation of WWII. Russia won but with like 14 million dead. Yeah, if anything it was 69ing. With lots of teeth.
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