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Sep 9, 2014 20:39
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Sep 9, 2014 20:54
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 ##Vote Julians (Liberal)
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Sep 9, 2014 20:56
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In case anybody is wondering, the little (Liberal) and (Conservative) tags refer to how those parties would be categorized in V2. So, for example, if this party set-up lasts until 1836 without the parties splitting again, getting sent to the hiratine, collapsing, etc., the Junonians and Julians would be liberal parties with different policies, and the Capitolino would be a conservative party. There'd also be a small party of reactionary monarchists which I haven't named yet, since Unitas had to go and embrace Republicanism and foil my plans.  EDIT: More on Victoria parties and their policies. Empress Theonora fucked around with this message at 21:04 on Sep 9, 2014 |
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Sep 9, 2014 21:00
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Rincewind posted:In case anybody is wondering, the little (Liberal) and (Conservative) tags refer to how those parties would be categorized in V2. So, for example, if this party set-up lasts until 1836 without the parties splitting again, getting sent to the hiratine, collapsing, etc., the Junonians and Julians would be liberal parties with different policies, and the Capitolino would be a conservative party. There'd also be a small party of reactionary monarchists which I haven't named yet, since Unitas had to go and embrace Republicanism and foil my plans. Make the Guiding Light a party of reactionary monarchists who want the Sunni branch of the Komnenos to come back. We need a new crazy dumb party line now that we actually managed to convert the empire/republic.
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Sep 9, 2014 21:09
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Could you spell out the difference in Vicky terms? Like i'm guessing Junoians are Secular/Residency and the Julians are Plural/Limited based on what we've seen (with probably full agreement on other issues, though maybe one's LF and and one's interven), but i could be totally off base here.
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Sep 9, 2014 21:10
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Sure, we've embraced public Republicanism to avoid the Hiratine, but I can assure you that the sane members of the Cyrahzax family yearn for the resurrection of the Roman throne, under a proper dynasty. The minute it's safe, we'll probably be public monarchists again, as long as sniper agrees.
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Sep 9, 2014 21:13
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We're not becoming a monarchy again unless Rincewind is bad enough at V2 to a) let Jacobins spawn, and b) let them take the capital.
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Sep 9, 2014 21:15
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Funky Valentine posted:We're not becoming a monarchy again unless Rincewind is bad enough at V2 to a) let Jacobins spawn, and b) let them take the capital. Rince, how would you rate your V2 ability compared to your EU4 ability?
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Sep 9, 2014 21:16
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TheFlyingLlama posted:Make the Guiding Light a party of reactionary monarchists who want the Sunni branch of the Komnenos to come back. I love the notion of a party convention where everyone shiftlessly, nervously observes that their insane, impossible goal has accidentally been accomplished by parties unknown, and speculates on how to go madder still to compensate. Speeches are given about annexing the moon and filling in the Black Sea for easier navy-free transit, before everyone ultimately settles on demanding actual time travel back to the days of the Komnenoi so that their current Rhodian descendent can convert them.
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Sep 9, 2014 21:17
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I'd say we could go for a Theocratic state, but France has been a Theocracy ever since the Valois-Vexins took up the autocephalous Patriarchy of Gallia.
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Sep 9, 2014 21:21
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YF-23 posted:Only if you like having chunks of your army killed because rebels popped on top of them. That's just a risk one has to take. Not like two thousand guys are hard to replace.
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Sep 9, 2014 21:23
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Readingaccount posted:That's just a risk one has to take. Not like two thousand guys are hard to replace. ...no, it's not a risk you have to take, because you can simply elect to leave a sieging force large enough to hande rebel stacks that might pop up.
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Sep 9, 2014 21:25
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Tulip posted:Could you spell out the difference in Vicky terms? Like i'm guessing Junoians are Secular/Residency and the Julians are Plural/Limited based on what we've seen (with probably full agreement on other issues, though maybe one's LF and and one's interven), but i could be totally off base here. That's not quite set in stone yet-- and the parties might ideologically drift between now and V2, anyway. I'm paying attention to the kinds of things people from each party are posting. Plus, some policies are just plain Better than others in gameplay terms and I don't want that to affect this vote. AJ_Impy posted:Rince, how would you rate your V2 ability compared to your EU4 ability? I've played much less V2 than I have EU4, but the V2 games I have played have been with starts much more comparable to the one we'll have than our EU4 start was to the EU4 games I've played. Before this LP, every single EU4 game I've played has been a western European colonizer/trade state-- a bit of Castile, a bit of Scotland, a whole lot of England (plus a CK2-export Britannia game), so being a land power out in the east put me very much out of my element. On the other hand, the couple of V2 games I've played have been AzeriMod Germany (which is, like us, mostly a land power) and the Ottoman Empire (which is... the Ottoman Empire), so the experience I do have is a lot more applicable to the Byzantine Republic's situation. Don't get me wrong, though, I'm still pretty bad at V2.
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Sep 9, 2014 21:28
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Can we guess the Great Powers? 1) glorious Ming 2) Ayiti 3) France 4) Haida
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Sep 9, 2014 21:34
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The truth of the Unitas Party will be revealed all in good time...
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Sep 9, 2014 21:35
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I am a fan of Malta Ascendant because currently there is a mod in the works for Civ V for a serious big-effort Malta civ which is probably among the smallest places you could turn into something that'd make sense as a potentially global empire and not a joke like Liechtenstein or Sealand. ...of course, I've been a proponent of a Monaco as well which would beat that out.
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Sep 9, 2014 21:36
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AJ_Impy posted:##Vote Discordians if this is an option i change my vote to this
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Sep 9, 2014 21:41
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##Vote Junonians (Liberal): 23 GunnerJ Freudian ThatBasqueGuy Espilae Blackunknown Talky skipThings Lynneth WilliamAnderson Rejected Fate Caustic Soda Zikan RZApublican tatankatonk Sindai Adept Nightingale Ogianres GSD Hitlers Gay Secret Tulip TheMcD GoatLord BwenGun ##Vote Julians (Liberal): 17 Jeoh Akratic Method Erwin the German Luhood Archaeology Hat Ghostwoods NewMars Hutter Patter Song StrifeHira Wentley Semquais Dallan Invictus mcclay Cestrian Clayren Pyroi  ##Vote the Capitolino (Conservative): 10 Muskatnuss WeaponGradeSadness YF-23 Lord Cyrahzax HiHo ChiRho sniper4625 Tevery Best Readingaccount Dibujante Not So Fast Discorcdians/Reactionaries/Boycotting the Assemly/etc. AJ_Impy Chwoka  Vote closed! Junonian minority government (everyone hates one another too much for a formal coalition)Amuse yourselves between now and the next update by thinking up some flags for Hindustan, the Buddhist state in eastern India formed by Orissa. I think the name Hindustan still works for it, anyway? I'm pretty sure that just means "India".
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Sep 9, 2014 22:02
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It refers to the [h]Indus river, which is in West India, so it's questionable. You could always just swap the names if you wanted.
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Sep 9, 2014 22:16
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Maybe call it Gangestan?
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Sep 9, 2014 22:20
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Akratic Method posted:It refers to the [h]Indus river, which is in West India, so it's questionable. You could always just swap the names if you wanted. Paradox!! 
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Sep 9, 2014 22:21
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Akratic Method posted:It refers to the [h]Indus river, which is in West India, so it's questionable. You could always just swap the names if you wanted. Having the Marathas be Hindustan and Hindustan revert to Orissa would make sense, yes.
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Sep 9, 2014 22:21
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Patter Song posted:Having the Marathas be Hindustan and Hindustan revert to Orissa would make sense, yes. Orissa has a really good flag, too, so maybe i'll just go with that, as inelegant as it seems. EDIT: Or maybe even just leave Marathas as Marathas and make Hindustan the "Orissa Empire" or something? Having Hindustan leap across the map between games would be a bit strange.
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Sep 9, 2014 22:23
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Rincewind posted:Orissa has a really good flag, too, so maybe i'll just go with that, as inelegant as it seems. And how many Romes and Bulgarias have there been so far, and where? We had Bulgaria in Liguria, four separate Romes (in Orbetello, Germany, the Balkans, and the Levant/Arabia), and Ming in Spain. Nations translocated far from anywhere sensible or related to their name is pretty much a theme of the LP. (I know we abolished the theme system, point still stands.)
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Sep 9, 2014 22:34
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Rincewind posted:Amuse yourselves between now and the next update by thinking up some flags for Hindustan, the Buddhist state in eastern India formed by Orissa. I think the name Hindustan still works for it, anyway? I'm pretty sure that just means "India". 'kay  Classic tricolor, no wheel because Gandhi doesn't exist yet  A rough Vajra, symbolizes the unbreakable qualities of diamonds and thunder  Glorious "I" of great size and scope that shall lead the workers to freedom!
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Sep 9, 2014 22:37
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AJ_Impy posted:And how many Romes and Bulgarias have there been so far, and where? We had Bulgaria in Liguria, four separate Romes (in Orbetello, Germany, the Balkans, and the Levant/Arabia), and Ming in Spain. Nations translocated far from anywhere sensible or related to their name is pretty much a theme of the LP. (I know we abolished the theme system, point still stands.) It is us. We are the Serbia LP. EDIT: By which I mean that the Serbia LP, rather than happening as designed by us, just sort of happened to us instead.
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Sep 9, 2014 22:37
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Rincewind posted:That's not quite set in stone yet-- and the parties might ideologically drift between now and V2, anyway. I'm paying attention to the kinds of things people from each party are posting. Fair enough, i only picked up V2 this week so i really don't know what's 'better' than others. It's a little unclear to me if Junonians being more 'liberal' means like US Whigs or Max Robespierre (which would be weird) or 'liberal' as in Tony Abbott.
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Sep 9, 2014 22:44
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Let me see if I got this straight: We have the symbol of Hecate in our flag and it is Pan-Arabic colours. Now, what is the most infamous lost city in the Arabic world? Babylon. That is right, and which of the Goddesses of that dread city are analogous to Hecate? Ishtar, of War and Fertility. It is no surprise then that this republic brings peace by murdering its own citizens by the hundreds of thousands, secure in the knowledge that its patron deity will give them the fertility they need to spawn vast armies from the womb of Rome's orphaned mothers. Well, what is another name for this Goddess? Astarte, of course! We are ruled by a cabal of her adepts. Now, does this not evoke a certain title, one well known to initiates in the mysteries? Adeptus Astartes, it is them who have been behind all this. Of course they were, for Rome is the most glorious and ancient of all Empires, and it is these, the time-travelling conspirators from an envious claimant that have brought this ruin to us. I leave you to the facts, ladies and gentlemen.
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Sep 9, 2014 22:46
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ZearothK posted:Let me see if I got this straight: I'm going to be boring and just say that this is incredibly silly. I can have moments of... eccentricity and sometimes be quite curious about things. Please forgive me if I do something foolish or rude.
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Sep 9, 2014 22:54
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Maybe something like this? A Dharma wheel suspended over the horns of a Sambar deer (official animal of the Indian state of Odisha) on either side a different color to represent the Indo-Aryan and Dravidian ethnic groups within Hindustan and "Empire of Hindustan" in Oriya (probably, maybe, I don't read or speak it and used a free online translator).
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Sep 9, 2014 23:01
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##Vote Junonians (Liberal) Long live the Republic!
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Sep 9, 2014 23:08
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Ratoslov posted:
They already won, sweetie.
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Sep 9, 2014 23:10
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Clayren posted:Maybe something like this? Nice design, but how will it look at 93x64, or whatever V2 uses for it's flag size? Stephen9001 posted:I'm going to be boring and just say that this is incredibly silly. As opposed to great chunks of this thread?
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Sep 9, 2014 23:18
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Stephen9001 posted:I'm going to be boring and just say that this is incredibly silly. Keep telling yourself that, sheeple.
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Sep 9, 2014 23:20
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At last I truly see. It was the spess muhreens all along.
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Sep 9, 2014 23:26
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Just been rereading. The best bit is still the Golden Horde, after 100 years of attempted conversians by the orthodox byzantines, deciding to embrace manichaeism instead.
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Sep 9, 2014 23:27
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Cestrian posted:Just been rereading. The best bit is still the Golden Horde, after 100 years of attempted conversians by the orthodox byzantines, deciding to embrace manichaeism instead. No, the best bit is that it somehow survived to the modern era. Also, part of Siberia is still uncolonized.
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Sep 10, 2014 00:19
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sniper4625 posted:Nice design, but how will it look at 93x64, or whatever V2 uses for it's flag size? You've a point there, here's an exact sized one  Edit: Not a fan of tricolor? How about bicolor?  Or a different form of tricolor? 
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Sep 10, 2014 00:48
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Rincewind posted:Orissa has a really good flag, too, so maybe i'll just go with that, as inelegant as it seems. You could separate them into Hindustan (west) and Bharat (east). Bharat(a) is the old Sanskrit name for India and also coincidentally used as part of the official name of modern India so. Those names make the most sense to me, though you're right, having them switch names is a bit silly I suppose.
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Sep 10, 2014 00:48
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