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CroatianAlzheimers posted:Nah, forget the Electra. What's this? Looks like a T-28 Trojan e: Planes of Fame claim to have two T-28s, a -B and a -C, but both are supposed to be at Valle, AZ at the moment, are those fairly old photos? SybilVimes fucked around with this message at 15:19 on Sep 9, 2014 |
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SybilVimes posted:Looks like a T-28 Trojan It's definitely a T-28.
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SybilVimes posted:Looks like a T-28 Trojan Photo was taken in May; the background isn't Planes of Fame property, I don't think, so I'm guessing it's someone else's.
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Sep 9, 2014 16:35
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Nerobro posted:Seal materials that aren't from the Victorian era help. Modern plastics came about soon after WW2. (and in a large part due to the war effort) No, not the pistons, the bearings. They apparently didn't lose enough oil to be worried about it by comparison.
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As promised, some photos from the weekend. Let me know if you want more of something - I have a whole bunch, just no in-flight closeups. This was the Croatian team's display that I caught as I was arriving, seen taxiing below as some helicopters (including a Cobra) take off.  The Hind came out for a solo display but it's a fat slow gently caress compared compared to the cobra   The Belgians brought some non-fat F-16s but sadly didn't fly them that day.  Still, their team was the best part of the whole thing, as they had a gift-shop stand and the pilots actually hung out around it and I managed to chat with one of the guys for a few minutes. It was like being in Top Gun suddenly, just less gay.  The infamous Gripen was there too  The Latvian Baltic Bees team was next, using L-39 Albatrosses in a pretty cool display. Their announcer is amazing and sounds absolutely hilarious in English http://balticbees.com/    The L-29 Dolphin, Albatross' predecessor, taxiing. Didn't see it fly.  L-159 Alca, Albatross' variant/ancestor. It did fly but by itself and without smoke the pics came out boring.  They actually brought out gliders  that did some stuff I wouldn't want to do without an engine. End of part 1.
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Well they called off the search for that TBM 900 that went down off Jamaica last week. Guess we'll probably not get much more information about the accident sequence than what we already know.
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Sep 9, 2014 20:47
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Space Gopher posted:Not just "could," but "have." The Strela has a couple of AC-130 kills on record in Vietnam and Iraq. Missile launch warning systems and IRCM have gotten better since then, but so have MANPADS. The aircraft itself is an easy target, kinematically speaking. And there you have it. I didn't feel like digging for stats at the time, so just assumed. Really, once you get past the HOLY poo poo FLYING HOWITZER thing (which I will admit still makes me happy), it's really a pretty ridiculous aircraft. mobby_6kl posted:
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mobby_6kl posted:As promised, some photos from the weekend. Let me know if you want more of something - I have a whole bunch, just no in-flight closeups. What are those the wingtips of? I'm blanking on "square wingtips" + "four ailerons"
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Madurai posted:No, not the pistons, the bearings. They apparently didn't lose enough oil to be worried about it by comparison. What bearings in the plane are greased that are active in flight? I am just smelling some fond stories versus reality. :-)
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Yeah, it's oil and not grease. It's easy to morph one to the other in storytelling if you're not too familiar with the subject matter. But there are antique engines flying around (I've got some time behind 2 of them) with greased valve rocker bearings. You go around the engine with a grease gun on all the zerk fittings every flight, and every couple of flights you take the rocker covers off and hand-pack the entire rocker box.
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The Ferret King posted:Well they called off the search for that TBM 900 that went down off Jamaica last week. Guess we'll probably not get much more information about the accident sequence than what we already know.  BUT PLANES DON'T JUST DISAPPEARI honestly figured they'd be able to find it since they were able to track it for a good portion of the flight.
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fknlo posted:
You can't track planes over the Bermuda Triangle.
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I love the Gripen. It's like a small, cute fighter. It just looks tiny with people walking around it compared to the typhoon or rafale.
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Naturally Selected posted:And there you have it. I didn't feel like digging for stats at the time, so just assumed. To be fair, it's FLYING HOWITZER and BIGASS GATLING GUN  As nice as all the piston aircraft there were, the Viper just looks so loving cool. I did get these two shots of them:   And of the Gripen in the air. It was mostly too far and too fast (and too loud) to get a good shot with a 50mm lens, but in any case:    Ardeem posted:What are those the wingtips of? I'm blanking on "square wingtips" + "four ailerons" That's... whatever the hell this thing is:  I'd be curious if anyone can ID it. Here are some more:  A Mi-something under wraps and a Yak-40 trijet.  That seems to be just the right size for a miata!  There was a simulated SAR mission, with the lower helicopter doing the extraction (of a dummy they themselves threw out  ) and the other one circling and providing covering fire. They winched everyone down and up, though it seemed that just landing would be much faster. Don't recall the model, but it was a very important post-war plane here.   A few more shots of the Baltic Bees planes, I like the design.  Mig-15 (at least I think it's not -17) that apparently made it to the US, then was bought and brought back, and is now being restored. It rolled around but wasn't allowed to take off.  An-2s were slow as hell, but looked pretty cool doing it    These might've been flying in the morning as I didn't see them before their final takeoff. mobby_6kl fucked around with this message at 00:56 on Sep 10, 2014 |
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Sep 10, 2014 00:52
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mobby_6kl posted:
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mobby_6kl posted:That's... whatever the hell this thing is: It's a sopwith camel, or more likely a replica, in ww1 livery (captain Roy brown's to be exact) SybilVimes fucked around with this message at 01:18 on Sep 10, 2014 |
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mobby_6kl posted:
Looks like an Aero Ae-45 or -145.
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vessbot posted:Yeah, it's oil and not grease. It's easy to morph one to the other in storytelling if you're not too familiar with the subject matter. Well, he was the guy who had to go out there with a bucket and greasegun, I assumed he knew what from what. And the Skyraider is an aircraft with a built-in bottle of degreaser for the windshield...
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SybilVimes posted:It's a sopwith camel, or more likely a replica, in ww1 livery (captain Roy brown's to be exact) What about the helicopter disaster in the background?
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mobby_6kl posted:To be fair, it's FLYING HOWITZER and BIGASS GATLING GUN Thanks! There's really very little more elegant that the lines of the Viper, especially if you ignore the goddamn intake.
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Guess what flew over me last weekend? http://www.nasa.gov/centers/armstrong/news/FactSheets/FS-046-DFRC.html#.VA_Ao0s3wlx 
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mobby_6kl posted:
I'm gonna need more of the Croatian team if you have them.
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mobby_6kl posted:An-2s were slow as hell, but looked pretty cool doing it Just like this one...  P1010217 by vexborg, on Flickr
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CroatianAlzheimers posted:I'm gonna need more of the Croatian team if you have them. I've got a couple from CIAV 2009 if you want.
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mobby_6kl posted:
The differences between the MiG-15 and -17 are subtle, but you are correct, that is a MiG-15 UTI. The MiG-17 has three wing fences instead of the MiG-15's two, plus the -17 has a ventral fin as well. The -17 is a bit longer, has a bit more wing sweep and has a less tapered fuselage, but unless you park them side by side, you'll never notice.
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PhotoKirk posted:Guess what flew over me last weekend? So, what DO chemtrails smell like? 
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MrChips posted:The differences between the MiG-15 and -17 are subtle, but you are correct, that is a MiG-15 UTI. The MiG-17 has three wing fences instead of the MiG-15's two, plus the -17 has a ventral fin as well. The -17 is a bit longer, has a bit more wing sweep and has a less tapered fuselage, but unless you park them side by side, you'll never notice. Since this is the right thread to sperg in: The -17 is 3 feet longer, slightly bigger tail. Wings were a little bigger and swept at 45 degrees as opposed to 35 degrees on the -15 (iirc). So yeah, what MrChips said. The later 17s are a little easier to pick out since they changed the rear end a bit for the afterburner (again iirc).
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MrYenko posted:So, what DO chemtrails smell like? Freedom.
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Nato Days comming up next weekend. I'm bringing my camera so I hope I'll be able to get some decent shots. Here's a list of the stuff on display http://www.natodays.cz/on-display S infront of the name means static display D is flight demo P is fly-by Anything in particular you guys interested in to focus on?
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Kerrow posted:Here's a list of the stuff on display http://www.natodays.cz/on-display The Hilux
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Kerrow posted:Nato Days comming up next weekend. I'm bringing my camera so I hope I'll be able to get some decent shots. I realize that this is the wrong thread, but I think bridge trucks are pretty awesome.
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Duke Chin posted:also: hah, when the hell did the USFS start using a Cobra? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ms4RlV6RiXs Given the rate at which the DoD is fire-selling surplus equipment to state and local governments/law enforcement I'm kind of surprised its not a defanged Apache.
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Tremblay posted:Since this is the right thread to sperg in: Also, to further elaborate, there is no 2 seat version of the -17. Geoj posted:Given the rate at which the DoD is fire-selling surplus equipment to state and local governments/law enforcement I'm kind of surprised its not a defanged Apache. Just leave the TADS in place 
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Godholio posted:I had no idea those existed. I forgot that NASA had them. We were driving north on i-45 and I lost my mind when I saw it. I spent about 20 minutes telling my wife how SUPER FREAKIN' AWESOME THAT WAS and she just stared at me. It's a miracle that I found a woman to put up with me.
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PhotoKirk posted:Guess what flew over me last weekend? And because this is AI:  
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PhotoKirk posted:Guess what flew over me last weekend? When I worked in Palmdale that thing flew around all the time. They are almost silent flat and level but when they are on the climb out over your head they are super loving loud, it's pretty weird.
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Flying an ER-2 is pretty much my dream job, right behind being an actual astronaut.
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Thanks for confirming the Mig-15. I checked wikipedia but spot the difference between the photos. The -17 not having a two-seat version is a clear giveaway though One hilarious thing was that they brought out a priest to bless it and that was... just super awkward. The people are generally not religious and even those that are must've found this extremely weird. You'd see Russian priests doing that all the time but here it was just bizarre. StandardVC10 posted:Looks like an Aero Ae-45 or -145. Yep, its the Ae-145, thanks! Madurai posted:What about the helicopter disaster in the background? There's a Cobra, a Bell-206, and two Robinson R-44s. They were flown by a company offering training and helicopter transport services. CroatianAlzheimers posted:I'm gonna need more of the Croatian team if you have them. Just remembered that they're called Wings of Storm (Krila Oluje).     I think I might've had exposure compensation set here  They have some official photos up, including close-ups of Wings of Storm: http://airshow.cz/clanek-260-CZ-CIAF-2014-Fotogalerie Kerrow posted:Nato Days comming up next weekend. I'm bringing my camera so I hope I'll be able to get some decent shots. Poland will have a Toyota Hilux as an exhibit  Are you going there for both days? I'd join you but as I mentioned I'm already supposed to be at a wedding, though I might be able to slip out for the second day... Also our American friends need to step up and send some F-15s ASAP.
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Geoj posted:Given the rate at which the DoD is fire-selling surplus equipment to state and local governments/law enforcement I'm kind of surprised its not a defanged Apache. At Selfridge last weekend I saw a Blackhawk in black and gold livery that looked for all the world like a Macomb Co. Sheriff bird. I was, shall we say, pissed and couldn't figure out why MCS needed a goddamned Blackhawk until I got up on it and saw it was a Border Patrol bird, obviously for keeping the Canadians at bay.
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