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Maple Leaf posted:So I finally beat the game today. Most of the game was great and fun, but I'm echoing that the ending was pretty booty. It's not a good thing if something makes me say "are you loving with me" out loud and un-ironically. All of the weird poo poo in the London section only happens after Layton and Luke try to read the book written in hypno-ink. Chelmey and Barton even refer to Darklaw and her Shades as "weirdos in Halloween costumes," which on a second reading could mean that they actually didn't see anyone flying around or shooting gusts. Likewise, everybody got to read the hypno-ink page that said Bezella would kill the Storyteller and the Storyteller alone. That's perfectly consistent by Layton standards. 
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Sep 10, 2014 12:21
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I hope there's plenty of color. Biggest knock against Layton vs Phoenix is that all the colors are so washed out.
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Sep 10, 2014 12:23
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It's been a while since I played Professor Layton VS Ace Attorney (Eurogoons got it months ago), but why did Eve try to get Espella convicted in London? Didn't she want to take her back to Labyrinthia?
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Sep 10, 2014 12:31
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Waffleman_ posted:Hey. Hey. Holy poo poo Sherlock is a fresh faced bishonen husbando, Tumblr's going is going to go nuts with this.
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Sep 10, 2014 12:38
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Pennfalath posted:It's been a while since I played Professor Layton VS Ace Attorney (Eurogoons got it months ago), but why did Eve try to get Espella convicted in London? Didn't she want to take her back to Labyrinthia? She didn't, though? Eve/Darklaw hired Phoenix to defend Espella so that she could take her back to Labyrinthia. Waffleman_ posted:Hey. Hey. That is one suave Sherlock.  The way he's covered with gadgets makes me think he's going to be this game's Ema Skye, helping out with all kinds of scientific crime scene investigation stuff.
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Sep 10, 2014 12:55
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Hyper Crab Tank posted:She didn't, though? Eve/Darklaw hired Phoenix to defend Espella so that she could take her back to Labyrinthia. But didn't she want Espella to confess? Or was there some sort of plea deal going on there?
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Sep 10, 2014 12:57
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Pennfalath posted:But didn't she want Espella to confess? Or was there some sort of plea deal going on there? My guess is she figured she was just going to take Espella back as soon as possible and wanted the trial to end quickly.
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Sep 10, 2014 13:21
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She had prearranged the sentence that was going to be proposed by the prosecution in exchange for the easy win, so it was probably just going to be having her released into her custody or something since she was posing as a headmistress of a school.
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Sep 10, 2014 13:23
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More than just Sherlock: http://kotaku.com/first-look-at-sherlock-holmes-in-the-new-ace-attorney-1632889180/all
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Sep 10, 2014 13:28
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Why is Sherlock taller English white haired Phoenix Wright? Watson is sadly not shorter English Maya. Maybe English sassy Pearl?
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Sep 10, 2014 13:30
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I hope there is a case where you defend noted mathematician and scholar Moriarty against Holmes' wild and baseless accusations.
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Sep 10, 2014 13:31
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Hyper Crab Tank posted:That is one suave Sherlock. From the sounds of the article, you'll work together with Holmes/Watson during investigations and it's your job to keep him from breaking the law in the pursuit of the truth. Also, Iris Watson is not just an 8yo girl, she's also an M.D.!
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Sep 10, 2014 13:36
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As for why (end game spoilers) the archway into labyrinthia disappeared, a gate probably closed behind them that was pure black thus invisible, so their minds filled in the image with the surrounding brick wall. Of all the ridiculous things in this story, what's funny is pure black is an actual real world discovery that happened after it was released in Japan.
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Sep 10, 2014 13:37
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Fangz posted:I hope there is a case where you defend noted mathematician and scholar Moriarty against Holmes' wild and baseless accusations. I'd settle for arrogant rear end in a top hat In addition, young lady Watson should dodge all the dumb Watson characterization that has been added to the character in the years. *it's the only acceptable addiction nowadays I'm quite curious how they'll portray him. Sherlock is THE detective, the one interested in actual truth, they can't possibly have him be a villain without every player calling foul. PaletteSwappedNinja posted:From the sounds of the article, you'll work together with Holmes/Watson during investigations and it's your job to keep him from breaking the law in the pursuit of the truth. This could actually work. A bit of culture clash with Ryunosuke trying to keep the dumb foreigners from pissing off the wrong people, while they get to know and understand each other. Maybe cliché, but serviceable.
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Sep 10, 2014 13:44
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Omobono posted:I'm quite curious how they'll portray him. Sherlock is THE detective, the one interested in actual truth, they can't possibly have him be a villain without every player calling foul. The article mentions him going on a "rampage of logic" so it sounds like we'll be deducing where the facts end and his (narrow-minded cultural) assumptions begin. Sounds fun.
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Sep 10, 2014 13:47
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Given that in universe, the Holmes stories are written by an eight year old girl, I think there is substantial leeway for Sherlock to be, if not villainous, not quite as much of a Mary Sue as he is in the stories...
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Sep 10, 2014 13:58
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Omobono posted:I'd settle for arrogant rear end in a top hat I don't know, Watson getting hype for JAM SANDWICHES would be a nice little link between Watson's goofier characterisation moments and a female sidekick's unhealthy fixation on junk food.
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Sep 10, 2014 14:28
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I'm absolutely positive that the last case in this game will be Sherlock Holmes as either the victim, defendant, or culprit, and a Moriarty-like character as either the victim, defendant, or culprit.
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Sep 10, 2014 14:59
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Please get localized.
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Sep 10, 2014 15:00
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Fangz posted:Given that in universe, the Holmes stories are written by an eight year old girl, I think there is substantial leeway for Sherlock to be, if not villainous, not quite as much of a Mary Sue as he is in the stories... Pretty hosed up to send a little girl into a war zone. There's no way ACD canon is going to get represented 1:1.
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Sep 10, 2014 15:09
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Elementary school, my dear Watson. Edit: Here's a breakdown of the Famitsu article. The most interesting tidbit is that most of the game actually takes place in London, which makes localization that much easier. Waffleman_ fucked around with this message at 17:11 on Sep 10, 2014 |
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Sep 10, 2014 15:35
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What's the cheapest/oldest iDevice that can reliably run Dual Destinies and Ghost Trick? I merely want to play these games on a TV, and will probably not use it for anything else. e: with the announcement of the iPhone 6 I figured now is a pretty good time to buy.
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Sep 10, 2014 17:37
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I think Ghost Trick will run on an iPhone 4, but Dual Destinies pretty much requires an iPhone 5.
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Sep 10, 2014 17:38
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Waffleman_ posted:Elementary school, my dear Watson. Which could make an interesting flip on any possibly cultural clashes, given its a Victorian era game. Holmes - or other NPCs - could see you as the dumb foreigner, and you subsequently spend the game disavowing them of such a notion.
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Sep 10, 2014 17:43
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So I get to team up with Sherlock Holmes in Ace Attorney? Seems legit.
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Sep 10, 2014 17:46
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I would love for the ending to reveal the 2026 gang and Maya just hanging out while Nick discovers his heritage. Would be a nice tie-in to the present and maybe set up AA6?
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Sep 10, 2014 18:08
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What are the chances of this game being localized? I don't mind importing the new one, but I reeeeally am not a huge fan of the idea of buying a Japanese 3DS for it because of region-locking. I mean, I'll do it anyway because I'm an idiot, but you know.Fangz posted:Given that in universe, the Holmes stories are written by an eight year old girl, I think there is substantial leeway for Sherlock to be, if not villainous, not quite as much of a Mary Sue as he is in the stories... Holmes is really not a Mary Sue in the original stories though. Hell, in the original stories he complains to Watson that he romanticizes his capabilities a little too much and exaggerates them(despite being an arrogant prick who is pleased by that). There's even a point where the stories mention there are cases he cannot solve, and Watson just doesn't talk about those because there's really no point in talking about an incomplete story. Plus there are a lot of times where he makes a mistake in the original stories, like in The Adventure of the Yellow Face. So even in the original stories there was already leeway for not making him perfect - he never really was. He was always a really good detective, but not quite perfect. His perfection got really exaggerated in a lot of adaptations.
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Sep 10, 2014 18:39
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Man I am so disappointed we won't get to see some crazy localization magic where they pretend Great Ace Attorney takes place entirely in Boston's Chinatown or something dumb like that. For the person looking for an iOS device for Ghost Trick and DD, the ipad 2 seems to be a good minimum for DD, so try that?
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ChaosArgate posted:Man I am so disappointed we won't get to see some crazy localization magic where they pretend Great Ace Attorney takes place entirely in Boston's Chinatown or something dumb like that. Hey, look on the bright side. Now they get to explain why Mr. Wright, born and raised California boy, cannot speak a word of English and has to have Mr. Holmes translate for him at every turn in London.
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ThisIsACoolGuy posted:I hope there's plenty of color. Biggest knock against Layton vs Phoenix is that all the colors are so washed out. Yeah, I noticed that too. It really hurt the bombastic aspect of the trials. The Special Episodes rule and seem to be Shu Takumi just making fun of Level 5's writing.
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So, it looks like most of Dai Gyakuten Saiban is going to take place in London! Which more easily explains why Holmes is there. http://court-records-net.tumblr.com/post/97144158188/and-here-are-full-scans-for-dai-gyakuten-saiban edit: Bah, this was said earlier. Ignore my enthusiasm. So will we be traveling from Tokyo Town to London in the US release or mighty they actually say you're in Japan.
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Hopeford posted:What are the chances of this game being localized? Really, really high, I would think. Sherlock Holmes is... kind of a big deal in Europe and America these days. If they bothered to do Dual Destinies, I dunno why they wouldn't do this one.
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And I think Dual Destinies sold well enough internationally to justify at least a digital release.
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loving Hell, of course there's a sliding block puzzle  At least this one was actually pretty easy... e: hoooooly poo poo the cutscene immediately after it  precision fucked around with this message at 20:42 on Sep 10, 2014 |
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F. Lobot posted:What's the cheapest/oldest iDevice that can reliably run Dual Destinies and Ghost Trick? I merely want to play these games on a TV, and will probably not use it for anything else. I played Ghost Trick on an iPad 2, but I have it on my iPhone 4, and it appears to run okay (at least during what little I played of it on the phone). Dual Destinies, however, just about barely runs on an iPhone 4, and that's all I can say for it. As in, it literally ran at 2-3 fps during a normal conversation before I'd even gotten to the courtroom. I don't know about a 4S, but a regular iPhone 4 is definitely a no-go for DD.
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Sep 10, 2014 22:28
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God dammit, Layton vs, don't you play Turnabout Sisters! Ah, gently caress here are the tears.
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Hyper Crab Tank posted:Hey, look on the bright side. Now they get to explain why Mr. Wright, born and raised California boy, cannot speak a word of English and has to have Mr. Holmes translate for him at every turn in London. You mean like PL vs AA?
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How DO they handle that in the Japanese version? Do they just assume Phoenix and Maya are bilingual and understand English?
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Mzbundifund posted:How DO they handle that in the Japanese version? Do they just assume Phoenix and Maya are bilingual and understand English? They just finally admit that the American localization is canon like they should have years ago. 
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