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oh jay posted:Yeah, Amon had a lot of crazy ideas about Air.
b. uhh, spirits or something c. taking out leaders d. ?? alternative list
b. killing the avatar c. killing the avatar d. killing the avatar
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# ? Sep 11, 2014 03:41 |
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I just binge watched season 3 today. IMO the best season of all 3 so far. I don't understand people aren't watching this and nick took it off the air? Also i really liked the "bad guys" this season. I was kinda rooting for them a little bit
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# ? Sep 11, 2014 04:04 |
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So what made Nick bail and lose all faith in this show? Lack of ratings? Not the right demo?
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# ? Sep 11, 2014 05:00 |
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Harlock posted:So what made Nick bail and lose all faith in this show? Lack of ratings? Not the right demo? it is hard to keep a show on your merch-driven kids' network if it neither attracts a young, merch-buying audience nor produces much licensed merch to sell them. I don't think these are the show's fault, but that is probably what a nick executive would tell you if you lassoed one. Anyway, we knew this was the last season anyway, so it's not like this is an "Oh no, they're rushing the show and that means they will probably cancel it!" situation, though it probably doesn't bode well for any future series in the franchise.
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# ? Sep 11, 2014 05:06 |
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Also, I think the leaks did impact things... they had been considering moving Korra to online-only before season 3 had a release date... but then the leaks happened, and it seems like they panicked and made their sudden tv-only, 2 episodes a week decision.... then halfway through they changed their minds and went back to their online only plan.
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# ? Sep 11, 2014 05:08 |
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Christ, they're really just trying to get it out the door aren't they? How long of a production time did it have? They must have made it almost concurrently with the third season, right? I don't remember ever seeing such a quick turn-around for an animated show, especially one with this level of animation.
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# ? Sep 11, 2014 12:35 |
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I'm really looking forward to reading Mike and Bryan's tell-all book about this whole fiasco.
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# ? Sep 11, 2014 13:26 |
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Bet they signed an NDA as part of their contracts.. So you'll never get the story
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# ? Sep 11, 2014 15:02 |
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Hakkesshu posted:Christ, they're really just trying to get it out the door aren't they? How long of a production time did it have? They must have made it almost concurrently with the third season, right? I don't remember ever seeing such a quick turn-around for an animated show, especially one with this level of animation. Babygravy posted:Bet they signed an NDA as part of their contracts.. So you'll never get the story The two also recently had a podcast appearance where they finally talked about The Movie after three years of silence, so I think it's less a matter of contracts and more "they know there's certain things they can't say without loving over the rest of their careers because that's how the business works."
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# ? Sep 11, 2014 15:34 |
What'd they say about the movie, out of curiosity?
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# ? Sep 11, 2014 15:46 |
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I have such mixed feelings about this announcement. Obviously, it's awesome that we're getting season 4 so soon, but yeah Nick just doesn't give a poo poo about the show. I think it's pretty disappointing because it's an amazing show that's been hamstringed by incompetent or even arguably ill-intentioned decisions outside of the show's control. I've read a lot of speculation based on poor merchandise opportunities or being outside the target market, but I'm still just not sure we have the full story of exactly what the hell is going on at Nick. Maybe a Nick employee will leak some company gossip on what's going on. That'd be interesting to hear.
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# ? Sep 11, 2014 16:11 |
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Was this brought up here? http://avatarthelegendofkorraonline.com/mike-bryan-interview-the-last-airbender-movie-digital-korra-nickelodeon-marketing/6591/ quote:Bryan refers to The Last Airbender movie as ‘The Catastrophe’ while Mike calls it ‘The Movie that Shall not be Named’. That's the summary of a brutal podcast they had about Book 3.
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# ? Sep 11, 2014 16:57 |
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Jesto posted:Mike explains that there was a window of opportunity programming-wise that forced them to premiere Book 3 when they did (without much notice) or they’d have to wait until next year to premiere Book 3. What, were the eight hours a day of SpongeBob reruns locked down for the rest of the year? Jesto posted:The co-creators are ready to move onto other worlds after Korra. But Bryan explains that the Avatar World has this immense gravity to it. They can try to run away in the short run, but it’ll eventually pull them back in. There's that at least. Wildeyes fucked around with this message at 17:20 on Sep 11, 2014 |
# ? Sep 11, 2014 17:17 |
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quote:Mike explains that The Last Airbender movie gave them motivation to initially write Korra themselves. They wanted to make sure it was done right. Oh, the irony. quote:The co-creators butt heads with Nickelodeon because the network told them Avatar: The Last Airbender re-runs were doing poorly, citing that the show wasn’t a comedy. For years, Mike and Bryan tried to explain to Nickelodeon that the show’s re-runs weren’t doing well ratings-wise because they needed to be aired in order. Some time later, the co-creators ran into a Nickelodeon executive who told them that Avatar: The Last Airbender was the #1 show on Nicktoons. The network decided to air re-runs of the series in order and, and it did really well. Go figure. So the Nickelodeon executives are about as clueless as I'd imagined, then. thexerox123 fucked around with this message at 17:29 on Sep 11, 2014 |
# ? Sep 11, 2014 17:27 |
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I've always questioned the conventional wisdom that kiddie comedies work better than serialized shows (reason being kids aren't sophisticated enough to follow anything with continuity, so they say), because, when we were young, I remember my brother and I really liked serialized cartoons. Then again, the last time I saw my 10-year-old half-brother, it took him about a millisecond to switch the channel from ATLA to some toon called Chowder, so what the hell do I know about how kids think. Wildeyes fucked around with this message at 18:23 on Sep 11, 2014 |
# ? Sep 11, 2014 17:51 |
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I always prefered shows with actual story flow and a sense of progress as well. Pirates of Dark Water got me hooked on the idea that cartoons could actually have a plot structure, of all things. And then it got cancelled before the plot could be resolved.
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# ? Sep 11, 2014 18:05 |
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Some terrible american miniseries was my first experience with it, and I loved it.
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# ? Sep 11, 2014 18:28 |
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Jesto posted:I always prefered shows with actual story flow and a sense of progress as well. Pirates of Dark Water got me hooked on the idea that cartoons could actually have a plot structure, of all things. That's probably the biggest risk for any serial. Shows like Sym-Bionic Titan and the newest Thundercats series were both serial shows and relatively good, but their plots were essentially written to last beyond a single season. Having a narrative like that can pay out big time, but it's also risky since a sudden cancelation or hiatus can leave everything hanging.
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# ? Sep 11, 2014 18:55 |
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Wildeyes posted:I've always questioned the conventional wisdom that kiddie comedies work better than serialized shows (reason being kids aren't sophisticated enough to follow anything with continuity, so they say), because, when we were young, I remember my brother and I really liked serialized cartoons. Me too. The reason why I was so obsessed with DBZ and Pokemon back in the day was because they were cartoons with actual ongoing plots and continuity. That was absolutely mindblowing to me since up until then the most complicated thing I had watched was Scooby Doo.
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# ? Sep 11, 2014 19:33 |
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Jesto posted:I always prefered shows with actual story flow and a sense of progress as well. Pirates of Dark Water got me hooked on the idea that cartoons could actually have a plot structure, of all things. And now you know where 90% of otaku that grew up in the 80s/90s came from.
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# ? Sep 11, 2014 21:02 |
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Jesto posted:I always prefered shows with actual story flow and a sense of progress as well. Pirates of Dark Water got me hooked on the idea that cartoons could actually have a plot structure, of all things. Yeah, I still have fond memories of watching Exo-Squad before school. That was the first kids cartoon I can remember requiring a "previously on" before each episode. Also similarly cancelled on a cliffhanger
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# ? Sep 11, 2014 22:31 |
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It is kinda weird that they don;t understand that stories spread out over multiple episodes get people more invested into a series and it's characters. A cliffhanger is one of the most commonly used tactics to keep people watching a show, why wouldn;t this apply to kids shows?
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# ? Sep 11, 2014 23:30 |
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Can we get a thread title change with the book 4 date? I almost missed the book 3 debut until I saw this thread like 2 days before.
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# ? Sep 11, 2014 23:35 |
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PaulDirac posted:It is kinda weird that they don;t understand that stories spread out over multiple episodes get people more invested into a series and it's characters. A cliffhanger is one of the most commonly used tactics to keep people watching a show, why wouldn;t this apply to kids shows? In the case of Exo-Squad the final episode worked really well as a series finale, with the war wrapping up and people going back to civilian lives. The last five minutes however feature an entirely new alien race showing up, eating a planet, and leaving the main protagonist stranded in deep space in a short-range one-man spacecraft. A cliffhanger only works if there's another episode to resolve it.
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# ? Sep 12, 2014 00:19 |
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Neo_Crimson posted:Me too. The reason why I was so obsessed with DBZ and Pokemon back in the day was because they were cartoons with actual ongoing plots and continuity. That was absolutely mindblowing to me since up until then the most complicated thing I had watched was Scooby Doo. DBZ? Definitely me as well, I mean just the part about them not getting why it wasn't doing well OUT OF ORDER makes me want to yell,p. Imagine if they did that with DBZ, training filler episode, fighting on Namek, World championship, vegeta and nappa arrive on earth.. Idiots.
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# ? Sep 12, 2014 01:44 |
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Babygravy posted:DBZ? Definitely me as well, I mean just the part about them not getting why it wasn't doing well OUT OF ORDER makes me want to yell,p. Imagine if they did that with DBZ, training filler episode, fighting on Namek, World championship, vegeta and nappa arrive on earth.. Well, does finally getting all the way to the Android saga and then turning on the TV the next day to catch Goku and Piccolo vs Raditz count?
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# ? Sep 12, 2014 02:04 |
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Well Manicured Man posted:Well, does finally getting all the way to the Android saga and then turning on the TV the next day to catch Goku and Piccolo vs Raditz count? I feel this has happened to me at least twice.
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# ? Sep 12, 2014 02:06 |
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hiddenriverninja posted:I feel this has happened to me at least twice. I never saw any part of the Buu saga after Vegeta turns to stone because I guess Toonami lost the rights then.
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# ? Sep 12, 2014 02:28 |
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Well Manicured Man posted:Well, does finally getting all the way to the Android saga and then turning on the TV the next day to catch Goku and Piccolo vs Raditz count? I visibly cringed for you. Does this explain all the problems in your life after?
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# ? Sep 12, 2014 02:44 |
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request to move the Korra thread to ADTRW
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# ? Sep 12, 2014 02:49 |
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icantfindaname posted:request to move the Korra thread to ADTRW seconded
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# ? Sep 12, 2014 02:56 |
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thirded
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# ? Sep 12, 2014 03:34 |
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Realtalk: wondering if you guys are up for a new thread for Book 4 or not. I know this one is fresh out of the box but it's really no trouble for me either way.
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# ? Sep 12, 2014 03:41 |
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I don't think it really matters, you might want to make one the day before/of the premier so that people don't need to search this thread to find where discussion for the episode(s) begins?
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# ? Sep 12, 2014 04:00 |
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MrAristocrates posted:Realtalk: wondering if you guys are up for a new thread for Book 4 or not. I know this one is fresh out of the box but it's really no trouble for me either way. Do not deprive newcomers of the fantastic goodposts that make up this glorious thread thus far.
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# ? Sep 12, 2014 05:46 |
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We'd happily welcome you in ADTRW!
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# ? Sep 12, 2014 05:51 |
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But Korra is the only "anime" I watch and I was happy that it was here in TVIV, I don't want to go to a different sub forum. I'm scared of the transition
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# ? Sep 12, 2014 06:01 |
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Aces High posted:But Korra is the only "anime" I watch and I was happy that it was here in TVIV, I don't want to go to a different sub forum. I'm scared of the transition You know what Korra would say.
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# ? Sep 12, 2014 06:04 |
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Korra is anime. Give in to the madness.
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# ? Sep 12, 2014 06:05 |
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ImpAtom posted:You know what Korra would say. When I get out of these chains, none of you will survive?
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# ? Sep 12, 2014 06:05 |