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NmareBfly posted:Everything you cook sous vide is sealed in a waterproof bag before being immersed in water. You could use a bucket of ebola water and as long as you do a careful job unsealing you'll be fine. Counterpoint: Dan Rykert is a loving disaster.
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Well yeah I won't disagree there. The actual dangerous stuff he talked about in this podcast were a) improperly freezing sous vide food after cooking (if its a thick cut of meat you want to ice bath it before dropping it in the freezer or else the core will be warm enough for bacteria to flourish for a little while) and b) cooking a whole pig sous vide (core temp won't come up fast enough, stuff inside will have a field day for the like 48 hours it takes to come up past the danger zone.) You can totally cook sous vide in a bathtub, though. Main concern would be keeping the temperature even throughout. Baby's first sous vide uses a beer cooler, which isn't exactly sterile.
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NmareBfly posted:Well yeah I won't disagree there. It's not the food safety stuff that drove me crazy it's that he cooks six chickens (he probably means packages of boneless skinless breasts) at once and then wraps them in tin foil and freezes and then microwaves as needed. His whole plan for the bathtub was to do all his cooking for one year and then freezing in tin foil barf
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Captain Novolin posted:Saints row 2 had a gender slider. Not a binary switch that looked like one, a straight up linear gender scale. It owns. I was thinking today about the potential for the gender option in a character creator to be a fill in text field. As long as the character has no visible gender identifiers, like if they're in a space suit, it works.
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Dr. Stab posted:I was thinking today about the potential for the gender option in a character creator to be a fill in text field. As long as the character has no visible gender identifiers, like if they're in a space suit, it works. Really, it would work even if they have visible gender identifiers, though probably most people would not know what to make of it. Gender identity, gender expression, and gender presentation are all different things! Even if they get flattened into the same thing by mainstream society. I haven't played it, but Sunless Sea apparently handles this well; you can choose what your character's silhouette looks like, enter a name, and choose how characters address you (out of "madam", "sir", and "citizen" I think), and I think it even emphasizes that how you're addressed doesn't need to reflect your gender, which I believe it just leaves up to you to decide outside of the game.
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What the hell happened to this thread?
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Even the Something Awful forums give you the ability to self-identify as a porpoise with a non-specific gender.
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Not a video game, but Dungeons and Dragons 5th edition has a similar thing going on about genders.   edited to be img's since i'm not phone posting now. Lone Goat fucked around with this message at 21:41 on Sep 10, 2014 |
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omeg posted:What the hell happened to this thread? The Bombcast is now about teaching a space alien how to function in human society.
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Be sure you listen through the survey nonsense at the very end of the Bombcast for some more top-shelf Dan nonsense.
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Jippa posted:On a slightly different note. I really enjoyed the crate and crowbar discussion of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boiling_Point:_Road_to_Hell . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s04sAPstPlI
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doctorfrog posted:Even the Something Awful forums give you the ability to self-identify as a porpoise with a non-specific gender. When talking about me, please use "Xe" or "This Moron" Dr. Stab fucked around with this message at 04:00 on Sep 11, 2014 |
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Sep 10, 2014 21:32
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I am going to play the hell out of dad joke game and it will make me wish I had kids to tell the jokes to so they can blank stare at me while I cackle. Someone make a game I can tell Dad jokes to and it will react appropriately so I can experience the best part of being a Dad without the other terrible parts.
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The adverts have cooled me off idle thumbs a little. We get an intro, a middle and a final ad skit, talking about their "friends" at Squarespace and Naturebox. I know it's a part of podcasting nowadays and you deserve to get some cash back into funding the podcast. I'm happy skipping past intro and bumper ads. But you guys are the last people I would expect to go all in on the chummy shill that just feels a bit creepy. Spend years building trust and integrity, then choose this slightly insidious way of advertising. Not a big deal, I'll still listen and I'm still glad to be on the wizard wall.
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I'm ok with most podcasting advertising. Idle Thimbs has my respect because of their decision to drop World of Tanks. It's pay the bills eat the probably delicious snacks and make a joke domain, harmless farts. In podcast but not video game podcast, My Brother My Brother and Me is getting worrisome. The last or second to last episode had something that sounded like it was one step above a payday loan. That poo poo worries me.
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I don't mind ads because I pay a whopping nothing for the majority of the podcasts I listen to.
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Confirmed confirmed, Chris Remo is an unabashed game dev shill who rubs elbows with the gaming press to get early access to Dad Joke games. I need to go home and make a fake poster about how other game devs shouldn't let Chris do music for their game. Make it a wanted poster and whatnot.
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ONE YEAR LATER posted:I don't mind ads because I pay a whopping nothing for the majority of the podcasts I listen to. This is how I look at it.
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SoulChicken posted:The adverts have cooled me off idle thumbs a little. We get an intro, a middle and a final ad skit, talking about their "friends" at Squarespace and Naturebox. The cool thing about Thumbs ads is that when they say they like a thing you can trust them that they actually like that thing. The World of Tanks discussion made that very clear. I'm in favour of how they do it. I'd probably be just as happy to kick in a couple bucks a month on a patreon and get it ad-free but this is still entirely acceptible to me because they've shown themselves to be worthy of trust.
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I'll be honest, I don't like the ads, and I would rather pay for a Patreon. But I don't see how they're creepy or shilly at all.
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The funny thing about podcasting advertisers is that they seem to target every popular podcast at once so no matter where you turn everyone loves naturebox and squarespace and fuckin HATES THE POST OFFICE.
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SoulChicken posted:But you guys are the last people I would expect to go all in on the chummy shill that just feels a bit creepy. Spend years building trust and integrity, then choose this slightly insidious way of advertising. e: Al! posted:The funny thing about podcasting advertisers is that they seem to target every popular podcast at once so no matter where you turn everyone loves naturebox and squarespace and fuckin HATES THE POST OFFICE.
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TetsuoTW posted:In what way is it "insidious" or "shill[y]"? It's abundantly clear which parts are advertising, and no-one is trying to bullshit anyone. If it's the "chummy" part that's got you, welcome to how talk radio has had to finance itself since forever. Yeah that language was overstating my feelings. I'm probably just a bit grumpy today, not worth a post in retrospect. I don't believe they have actual friends at Squarespace and Naturebox though.
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Al! posted:The funny thing about podcasting advertisers is that they seem to target every popular podcast at once so no matter where you turn everyone loves naturebox and squarespace and fuckin HATES THE POST OFFICE.
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coyo7e posted:Game podcasts need to get together with Joe Rogan so they can shill diet pills and weight gainer and kettle balls. All those misogynistic fat gamer kiddies online need is a good 8 weeks of fitness training to turn their lives around. Whatever it takes so I don't have to ever hear the words blueberry nom noms again.
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SoulChicken posted:I don't believe they have actual friends at Squarespace and Naturebox though.
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I'm curious as to what kind of cut you get for the Amazon tip jar. I have a bookmark for Duckfeed's Amazon because I spend hundreds a month there but does Lootcrate and Hostgator etc really pay out more?
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SoulChicken posted:Yeah that language was overstating my feelings. I'm probably just a bit grumpy today, not worth a post in retrospect. I don't believe they have actual friends at Squarespace and Naturebox though. Naturebox tricked Idle Thumbs into thinking they were friends by giving away snacks. Don't hold it against them, nobody can ignore the sweet siren song of health foods. Opposing Farce fucked around with this message at 16:04 on Sep 11, 2014 |
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al-azad posted:I'm curious as to what kind of cut you get for the Amazon tip jar. I have a bookmark for Duckfeed's Amazon because I spend hundreds a month there but does Lootcrate and Hostgator etc really pay out more? Amazon's rate schedule is a little confusing. The percentage cut we get varies from 4% to 9% depending on the category of the item you buy, and how much product we "move". The affiliate link has always been very good to us, and it predictably covers a good portion of our fixed costs each month. This frees up Patreon money for discretionary things, and for bigger buys like our live show. For as morally suspect as some of Amazon's practices are, and for how much affiliate marketing rubs me the wrong way in general, I love having the tip jar link because it's a very non-intrusive way for us to solicit support. People gonna Amazon anyway, so why not stick it to the man by getting us a finder's fee? I appreciate anyone who goes to the extra effort to pass through our link before they buy their books and toilet paper. EDIT: to answer your second question, Amazon has always consistently paid more than the Audible ads we used to run. Those audible ads were an affiliate program. I looked into running Squarespace ads a while ago, and at that time those were affiliate ads as well. I can't speak to how much more formal ad deals would pay out. Song For The Deaf fucked around with this message at 16:17 on Sep 11, 2014 |
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Oh, actually, I've been thinking about this for a while, but this is a good opportunity to bring it up: I suspect the real motivation behind Amazon's affiliate program is not to inform people about Amazon, but to encourage people to remain within Amazon's ecosystem. We all know about Amazon, and most of us use Amazon on a regular basis, but Amazon would very much like to continue being The Place You Go To Buy Stuff Online. For the most part they ensure their position by simply being a reliable and convenient service that generally offers good prices, but they also go out of their way to make sure their presence is felt and it's always easy for you to hop over and visit them whenever you want to buy stuff, and the affiliate program is one tool they have for that. I'm not terribly likely to go find some other web megastore that's probably sketchier and less robust and may not even offer better deals, but I'm even less likely to do so when all my favorite sites have a link right to Amazon and say I can support them by clicking it. Ultimately the affiliate link is a win/win and I'm not arguing against it; I just know you've expressed uncertainty as to what Amazon's stake is and I wanted to offer a possible explanation of what they're getting out of the deal. Opposing Farce fucked around with this message at 18:40 on Sep 11, 2014 |
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That makes sense. I also use Amazon a lot, and I'm comfortable "advertising" a service that I know is good. I feel similarly about SquareSpace, but I'm very reluctant to run those ads because they're *everywhere*. I don't have anything against people who do run those ads (hi Thumbs!).
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Another way they keep people in their ecosystem is by making the affiliate link a part of people's income. I'm not trying to cast aspersions on anyone using it, but by making people rely on it, those people have a stake in the continued dominance of Amazon. I trust Gary and Kole, but very broadly speaking, if someone is giving you money, you are more likely to advocate for them, or at least not advocate against them. Or at least I think that is part of the reasoning behind it. Anyway I feel gross even putting forth that argument in light of current Twitter garbage, but hey.
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My hope is at some point the internet economy will mature to the point where I can just pay monthly fees for the dozen or so sites I visit regularly. I feel guilty about using adblock for general browsing, but I can't deal with the crazy ad pop-ups and Javascript tricks a lot of these blog-type sites use. I wanted to get hosting through Idle Thumbs once, but the referral code had changed in the couple weeks since they ran the ad, and I couldn't find the new one. I think the way Giant Bomb handles their podcast ads is the ideal, but updating two different feeds with two different versions of the podcast is a lot to ask from people with day jobs.
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Podcasts remain sort of a nightmare to monetize. The only part of running Audible ads I liked was recommending books. But other than that, you can actually hear my arc of growing to hate it as I enthusiastically read the copy, then sleepily read the copy, then start making up books and nonsense. I remember when Robert Ashley was monetizing A Life Well Wasted and I thought to myself: well, poo poo, that's the way to do it. Associate with cool art that people are going to want anyway and make good stuff. But I haven't seen anyone else replicate that so maybe it was a perfect storm type of deal. I think Patreon is a really great model for it. I worry about the amount of disposable income and how much cross pollination there is in podcasts, however. We're by no means true "early adopters" of the model but as more podcasts move over to Patreon, I wonder if fans are going to have a 5bux for us _and_ a 5bux for Retronauts. This has been insecurity chat.
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Why isn't Idle Thumbs using all their Campo Santo money to fund their podcast?(??) If you want to hear "bad" podcast ads, the guys on the Super Best Friendcast still haven't quite gotten into a groove with how they do theirs yet. Most ads I'm content to just let run, especially with Idle Thumbs and GB(though GB's less so lately with the lack of Small Businessman) but SBFC's are a little stilted and blunt. Their Loot Crate ads are alright though, opening that month's crate and telling you what's inside, I BELIEVE opening it for the first time and not knowing what's going to come out. The Audible and Hulu+ ones by SBFC aren't great, and I feel like GB hasn't actually tried Nature Box yet. Their Nature Box ads sound like they're just reading off the back of the "box".
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As an aside I'm going through the WOFF archives and 15 minutes into the Bloodlines episode and I'm reinstalling the game. The motivation poster memes are true, oh god they're true.
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Between Netflix, NPR, Adblock, and podcasts in general, I've gotten so used to being shielded from ads in my a/v content that I just bristle anytime I detect something is being sold to me. But not all ad integration is the same. The Idle Thumbs ads sound like part of the conversation, and they have a knack for making podcasting in general sound very conversational. It doesn't bug me. Greg Proops used to work ManGrate ads into his routine dripping with so much sarcasm that they eventually stopped sponsering him (I assume). The Jack Benny Show of the 1940's was sponsored by Jell-O, and they'd work it into skits that would just touch the border of contempt for the need to shill for it. Then you have the Ice-T podcast, where he straight up just reads a script, which takes forever. (If I were fifteen years younger, I'd probably love Loot Crate.) Yet, I don't mind that much, because I don't expect as much from his podcast. His caché as Ice-T packs enough novelty to overcome the objection. The better the podcaster, the more criticism you're going to get, I think. People are attracted to the genuineness of podcasting, and in a lot of ways, it's one of the few places on earth that isn't plastered with ads. (See TWiT for the absolute horror of how bad this can go.) I would throw a small amount of monthly money at a podcast cooperative to support the bloc of podcasts I listen to. At least, that's what this blind stupid mouth of a podcast consumer would prefer. Is that how Patreon works? Like, gimme a list with sliders or something. With consumers in general, you're going to have to meet us far, far more than halfway, but I imagine you know that already.
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Captain Invictus posted:Why isn't Idle Thumbs using all their Campo Santo money to fund their podcast?(??) I'm not sure if this is a joke or not, but just in case it isn't: This actually WOULD be unethical, in my opinion. The two companies are unrelated other than having some of the same people associated with them. Legally and financially there is zero connection. You could argue that we would essentially be committing some kind of fraud by diverting funds from one company to subsidize another. Also, ethical questions aside, I think it would be poor business as well; Campo already isn't in a position where it has money to spare, but let's say it were. If, in the future, Campo went out of business or had some bad luck, or whatever, but we still wanted Idle Thumbs to stick around, Idle Thumbs would have nothing in the bank, no financial cushion, since it would have been running for years off borrowed money. We'd have to build up a revenue apparatus from scratch (again) and it would probably be something of a rocky start at the very least. It would also just feel weird and dishonest. If Idle Thumbs is going to cost money to run, which it does, it should probably pay for itself. We would like to offer some kind of paid ad-free alternative, and we've been having conversations about it, but it would almost certainly not be Patreon or something like that; it would be something homegrown that we could control all aspects of to ensure we can run it in the way we think is best. This is the same philosophy we took with the store--rather than running it through a one-stop solution like Cafepress or something like that--and we're really happy with the results even if it results in some extra work for us and probably limits revenue in some ways. Any time we ask readers for money (or let them give us money), we want to be proud of the way in which we're doing it.
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