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hollylolly
Jun 5, 2009

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Danith posted:

I closed on Friday the 29th, I am now a homeowner :aaa:

Didn't even see the sellers once in the process, they had a closing agent at the closing that just signed everything and left. Kinda disappointed how bad of a cleaning job they did. The 1/2 bathroom didn't seem to be cleaned at all (there was pee on the toilet), and I just got all the carpet in the place cleaned - apparently the stains were dog pee :gonk:. Also pulled off some floor vents and found they are filled with debris and pretty gross. Cleaned out what I could though.

I wanted to run network jacks to all the rooms/areas but it looks like there isn't a corridor in the wall that goes from the main level to the upper level so I would have to knock some wall out and drill out something :(

Our new house was formerly inhabited by three cats and two dogs and after a thorough vacuuming I shampooed the upstairs carpets today and the carpet cleaner was just pulling out a poo poo ton of hair. There were clumps everywhere. :barf: Thankfully we are replacing the stained downstairs carpet with laminate, but there will be a great many more vacuuming sessions going on.

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Brennanite
Feb 14, 2009

Is it wrong that I like the wallpaper?

Danith
May 20, 2006
I've lurked here for years
How the colors are kinda make my eyes weird out. It's not the picture, thats how everything looks right? Kinda everything washed out except for a couple pieces?

Looks like it needs a dusting to me.

ssb
Feb 16, 2006

WOULD YOU ACCOMPANY ME ON A BRISK WALK? I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK WITH YOU!!


Danith posted:

How the colors are kinda make my eyes weird out. It's not the picture, thats how everything looks right? Kinda everything washed out except for a couple pieces?

Looks like it needs a dusting to me.

They're doing horrible HDR filtering which makes it more so, but there's probably some amount of that yes.

apatheticman
May 13, 2003

Wedge Regret
So I own a unit in a 4 unit multi family house (2 front 2 back). It's supposed to be a small condo board.

I own the front right and the front left neighbour decided to build a deck and a fence. She floated the idea by us, but there was no formal (documented) approval. She proceeds and we are like uh what the hell but we let it slide for some reason.

Turns out she did it without permits and now we are all on the hook for fines/restoration.

Hooray!

apatheticman fucked around with this message at 04:23 on Sep 9, 2014

slap me silly
Nov 1, 2009
Grimey Drawer
Lawsuit time!

Devian666
Aug 20, 2008

Take some advice Chris.

Fun Shoe

Whiteycar posted:

Turns out she did it without permits and now we are all on the hook for fines/restoration.

Hooray!

Yes you are on the hook for the expenses and fines. One the final costs are in place then you need to recover the money from the idiot neighbour.

apatheticman
May 13, 2003

Wedge Regret

Devian666 posted:

Yes you are on the hook for the expenses and fines. One the final costs are in place then you need to recover the money from the idiot neighbour.

Yeah that's the plan. Technically its in the "fix this poo poo or else" stage but shes done all the paperwork etc without our consent or keeping us apprised so if it does get down to the wire and one of us has to take over its going to be a nightmare to pick up the pieces.

Just the loving audacity of it all is pissing me off more than anything.

Devian666
Aug 20, 2008

Take some advice Chris.

Fun Shoe

Whiteycar posted:

Yeah that's the plan. Technically its in the "fix this poo poo or else" stage but shes done all the paperwork etc without our consent or keeping us apprised so if it does get down to the wire and one of us has to take over its going to be a nightmare to pick up the pieces.

Just the loving audacity of it all is pissing me off more than anything.

The world is full of loving idiots. I quite often get brought in to deal with specific compliance issues for buildings with some major problems. I don't operate in the US but the local Councils here tend to issue a notice to fix threatening all sorts of action. Provided the property owner sets things right it generally doesn't need to come down to that. It sounds like it's at a similar stage to here.

Not uncommon to find people who think they can do whatever they like. I remember getting one call from a distressed sounding worker at a small hostel. He said that Council had turned up and were shutting the building down. I went through with him to confirm what was happening. The building inspectors had arrived as the entire hostel had been built without a building consent and they were closing it down. Pretty much everything was built illegally and was in a poor condition for structure and fire rating. Pretty much a deathtrap build by a Dutch guy who thought that getting a consent would be a waste of money.

Mary Fucking Poppins
Aug 1, 2002
Does anybody have experience buying a house without a realtor and just using a real estate attorney? I'm hoping to be a first-time homebuyer but I'm about to fire my second realtor (both were recommended by coworkers). I don't know if I want to waste more time hoping the next one works out.

EDIT: Or alternatively, how do I go about diplomatically suggesting that my realtor sit on the sidelines until after my offer has been accepted? My main problem is that both realtors have tried to talk the price up without citing comparables or other evidence despite my being very clear that talk of price has to be accompanied by supporting evidence. I would prefer to see houses by myself and to make offers by myself and then let the realtor help me through the rest of the process.

Mary Fucking Poppins fucked around with this message at 14:01 on Sep 9, 2014

ssb
Feb 16, 2006

WOULD YOU ACCOMPANY ME ON A BRISK WALK? I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK WITH YOU!!


Mary loving Poppins posted:

Does anybody have experience buying a house without a realtor and just using a real estate attorney? I'm hoping to be a first-time homebuyer but I'm about to fire my second realtor (both were recommended by coworkers). I don't know if I want to waste more time hoping the next one works out.

EDIT: Or alternatively, how do I go about diplomatically suggesting that my realtor sit on the sidelines until after my offer has been accepted? My main problem is that both realtors have tried to talk the price up without citing comparables or other evidence despite my being very clear that talk of price has to be accompanied by supporting evidence. I would prefer to see houses by myself and to make offers by myself and then let the realtor help me through the rest of the process.

Personally I wouldn't do a first time without a realtor but I'd get one that I loving trusted and that would explain poo poo to me how I wanted it to be explained.

Antifreeze Head
Jun 6, 2005

It begins
Pillbug
Depending who you are/what you look like, you might find it easier to view homes with the assistance of a Realtor since they get access to keys way easier than you would. Without that, you're left with seeing only open houses, banging on doors to see if the seller might let you in to look or waiting around for the selling agents. Not impossible, but I could see that dragging things out.

TacoHavoc
Dec 31, 2007
It's taco-y and havoc-y...at the same time!
If your realtor is trying to talk the price up, you just had lovely realtors. I would maybe try again? It's definitely going to be a struggle to get into houses without one. Plus if you're getting to the point of offers without a realtor, why would you cut them in later? Use the selling realtors 6% as another way to drop price.

ssb
Feb 16, 2006

WOULD YOU ACCOMPANY ME ON A BRISK WALK? I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK WITH YOU!!


TacoHavoc posted:

If your realtor is trying to talk the price up, you just had lovely realtors. I would maybe try again? It's definitely going to be a struggle to get into houses without one. Plus if you're getting to the point of offers without a realtor, why would you cut them in later? Use the selling realtors 6% as another way to drop price.

Just don't let the seller's realtor represent you. A friend of mine did that and got utterly dicked.

Elephanthead
Sep 11, 2008


Toilet Rascal
No one is going to let you into houses without a realtor with you. There are good ones. I personally like the independent ones instead of the Remax etc. big corporate you must produce or your rear end is fired ones.

Zhentar
Sep 28, 2003

Brilliant Master Genius

shortspecialbus posted:

Just don't let the seller's realtor represent you. A friend of mine did that and got utterly dicked.

For reals. Your realtor is legally bound to represent your best interests. The seller's realtor is legally obligated to not straight up lie to you.

SpartanIvy
May 18, 2007
Hair Elf
As I understand it, a Realtor is always bound to represent the sellers best interest. They are the ones paying them after all.

always be closing
Jul 16, 2005
Just negotiated for $3k credit at closing, feels good. Appraisal came in $3k over our purchase price. Pleased about a fair deal all around

Bank called and said the underwriter couldn't get a hold of HR at my company or the last school my girl worked at!

I immediately called HR, with the underwriter's #, HR refuses to call, so I call the Underwriter VM and leave as much pertinent info as I can. Girlfriend does the same on her side.

Closing 9/30, we're both super organized and have our poo poo together, I don't understand how this guy is having trouble getting proof of our employment, but I'll be a bit pissed if he delays our closing. We negotiated on the condition we close on the 30th.

Just had to vent a bit.

facey fred
Sep 17, 2007
quite facey

Elephanthead posted:

No one is going to let you into houses without a realtor with you.

My husband and I bought a house without a realtor 8 years ago. Maybe things have changed a lot since then, but we were easily able to arrange showings by contacting various real estate offices ourselves. After we made an offer on our house and got it inspected, a real estate lawyer helped us properly fill out all of the necessary paperwork. I think living in a fairly small city made all of this easier.

PDP-1
Oct 12, 2004

It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood.
Since the subject has come up, does anyone have advice regarding how to pick a good real estate lawyer?

I found a place I'm interested in just by cruising around in a neighborhood I like and spotting a "For Sale" sign outside of a place that looked decent. I did a brief walk-thru and everything looks basically OK, but before going any further it'd be nice to have some legal supervision from someone who isn't the seller's agent.

Google reveals plenty of local law firms that advertise real estate specialists but I have no idea as to how to evaluate them beyond that.

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

PDP-1 posted:

Since the subject has come up, does anyone have advice regarding how to pick a good real estate lawyer?

I found a place I'm interested in just by cruising around in a neighborhood I like and spotting a "For Sale" sign outside of a place that looked decent. I did a brief walk-thru and everything looks basically OK, but before going any further it'd be nice to have some legal supervision from someone who isn't the seller's agent.

Google reveals plenty of local law firms that advertise real estate specialists but I have no idea as to how to evaluate them beyond that.

Dunno about your lawyer question (because I didn't use one), but can I interject to say for god's sake look at more than one house before putting in a bid?

I didn't start really noticing the things wrong with houses we were looking at until around house #10. And we probably looked at around 40 houses before making an offer.

Mind you, we were looking at foreclosures, which certainly affected the quality - this was in 2009.

But I wouldn't buy a $500 bicycle without at least checking out two or three options, and you're talking about what, 200x to 1000x more money being spent?

Christobevii3
Jul 3, 2006
I did a cashe sale with lawyer and real estate agent. Agent just showed, submitted bid. Lawyer did the title check back as far as possible, handled both parties signing, and filed with the parish. He basically was the title company in our instance.

PDP-1
Oct 12, 2004

It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood.

Leperflesh posted:

Dunno about your lawyer question (because I didn't use one), but can I interject to say for god's sake look at more than one house before putting in a bid?

No worries there, I've looked at a bunch of places and just omitted mentioning them because I didn't think they would be relevant to the question I was asking. :)

Given the amount of info online these days I prefer to do my own searching around on the big real estate websites, then do my own drive-by to see if they look decent in person, and only then do I contact a realtor to do a walk-thru. The upside to this method is that I can take my time and wait for something I genuinely like to come along (I'm in no hurry to buy), the downside is that when I find something I don't have a non-conflicted expert on my side since the seller's agent is acting for both sides. That's where the real estate lawyer comes in.

This is the first place that has survived through the walk-thru stage without getting dumped in the pile of "nope" houses, so it's time to start looking for legal help.

El Jebus
Jun 18, 2008

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As far as picking a realtor is concerned, I was extremely happy with the socal agent that USAA picked out for me based on their promo deal thing. I forget what it is called but you go through their recommendation process, even if you don't get your loan through them, and you can get money back after closing. Our agent was really helpful in making sure everything the seller agreed to do was done before we closed, finding us the right place, and negotiating on our behalf to bring the cost down a more than a few grand below what we originally were willing to offer on it. Our agent also was willing to work with us for over 6 months and never pressured us to buy anything other than THE house we wanted.

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

PDP-1 posted:

No worries there, I've looked at a bunch of places and just omitted mentioning them because I didn't think they would be relevant to the question I was asking. :)

Given the amount of info online these days I prefer to do my own searching around on the big real estate websites, then do my own drive-by to see if they look decent in person, and only then do I contact a realtor to do a walk-thru. The upside to this method is that I can take my time and wait for something I genuinely like to come along (I'm in no hurry to buy), the downside is that when I find something I don't have a non-conflicted expert on my side since the seller's agent is acting for both sides. That's where the real estate lawyer comes in.

This is the first place that has survived through the walk-thru stage without getting dumped in the pile of "nope" houses, so it's time to start looking for legal help.

We did that for a few months, but at least in 2009, nothing hit the big websites until it'd been listed on MLS for at least a few days. Once we got a realtor, he started showing us quite a few homes that weren't online yet.

Even then, we still did a fair number of drive-bys on weekday evenings. That saved us time on the weekends with our realtor because we could eliminate houses that were in lovely neighborhoods or clearly unsuitable ahead of time.

The best way to get a realtor is to have one recommended by a person you know whose judgement you trust. I think it's likely the same for real estate lawyers.

Zhentar
Sep 28, 2003

Brilliant Master Genius

SpartanIV posted:

As I understand it, a Realtor is always bound to represent the sellers best interest. They are the ones paying them after all.

There certainly is some financial incentive to do so, but legally speaking, that is false.

SiGmA_X
May 3, 2004
SiGmA_X

Leperflesh posted:

We did that for a few months, but at least in 2009, nothing hit the big websites until it'd been listed on MLS for at least a few days. Once we got a realtor, he started showing us quite a few homes that weren't online yet.

Even then, we still did a fair number of drive-bys on weekday evenings. That saved us time on the weekends with our realtor because we could eliminate houses that were in lovely neighborhoods or clearly unsuitable ahead of time.

The best way to get a realtor is to have one recommended by a person you know whose judgement you trust. I think it's likely the same for real estate lawyers.
Cant you just look at the MLS listings online? I do that here in Oregon. But the search features suck rear end compared to zillow or Redfin sadly.

uwaeve
Oct 21, 2010



focus this time so i don't have to keep telling you idiots what happened
Lipstick Apathy
I understand that often the choice properties get shopped around prior to hitting MLS/the internet. However, for a house that's already listed, if I'm the listing agent and someone calls me specifically not looking to work with a buyers agent, I instantly start with double the commission and I'm negotiating against an untrained, under informed party. I can see why maybe some wouldn't be worth the hassle but I'm surprised to hear things like "LOL good luck ever seeing a non-open house property without an agent."

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

uwaeve posted:

I understand that often the choice properties get shopped around prior to hitting MLS/the internet. However, for a house that's already listed, if I'm the listing agent and someone calls me specifically not looking to work with a buyers agent, I instantly start with double the commission and I'm negotiating against an untrained, under informed party. I can see why maybe some wouldn't be worth the hassle but I'm surprised to hear things like "LOL good luck ever seeing a non-open house property without an agent."

The negotiation advantage may be counterbalanced and then-some by the assumption that the buyer will gently caress up paperwork and/or fail to qualify for financing and/or insist on bizarre contingencies or whatever. I'm sure lots of buyers with no agent are great, but probably a fair number are tinfoil hat/anti-government/gold-fringed-flag types, and any seller's agent who has encountered one might feel a certain disinclination to deal with buyers who represent themselves.

But that's something of a guess on my part. I'm sure it's possible to buy a house without using an agent, people do it all the time, I just don't know if they actually get a better deal or a worse deal on average by doing so.

Good-Natured Filth
Jun 8, 2008

Do you think I've got the goods Bubblegum? Cuz I am INTO this stuff!

I have a small-town story to share that my mother told me earlier this week. It's a very rare bubble of San Francisco-esque real estate in the "middle of corn fields" Ohio.

My parents live in the "new" section of my home town. The town is ~10,000 people, and is full of jocks that moved back home after college because they missed the "big fish in a small pond" vibe they got while living there. Everyone wants to live where my parents live - maybe 50 houses in a newer subdivision, walking distance to the school (yes, only one school), etc.

Their neighbors across the street just sold their house last Friday to a neighbor down the street. Word spread, and by Saturday morning, the neighbor down the street had shown their house to 3 different people from other parts of town. They received two offers, and word spread about the offers. Another family came in, without looking at the house, and matched the highest offer but didn't ask for the renovations that the highest offer had asked for. This was all done by Saturday evening, no realtors involved.

Pretty crazy stuff going on in my home town.

fknlo
Jul 6, 2009


Fun Shoe
Holy poo poo, leave me alone burglar alarm dealers. I swear to god that at least 5 have stopped by in the week I've been in the house.

ssb
Feb 16, 2006

WOULD YOU ACCOMPANY ME ON A BRISK WALK? I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK WITH YOU!!


fknlo posted:

Holy poo poo, leave me alone burglar alarm dealers. I swear to god that at least 5 have stopped by in the week I've been in the house.

And probably 2-3 of them weren't casing the joint!

topenga
Jul 1, 2003

fknlo posted:

Holy poo poo, leave me alone burglar alarm dealers. I swear to god that at least 5 have stopped by in the week I've been in the house.

"Carpet cleaners."
At 8:30 at night. NIGHT!
No, Mr. Sketchy McSnortfuck, I don't want my carpets cleaned. And why is Ms. Itchy O'Methhead trying her best to look past me?
gently caress you all.

Welcome to homeownership.

I am so close to answering the door (and phone!!!) with "who the gently caress are you and what the gently caress do you want!"
So much door-to-door bullshit around here!

canyoneer
Sep 13, 2005


I only have canyoneyes for you
There's no social law that says one must answer the door. If I'm not expecting anyone, I'm not even walking to the door.

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

My favorite 3 words I learned are "Sorry, we rent". Cuts down on 80% of the bullshit.

Inverse Icarus
Dec 4, 2003

I run SyncRPG, and produce original, digital content for the Pathfinder RPG, designed from the ground up to be played online.

canyoneer posted:

There's no social law that says one must answer the door. If I'm not expecting anyone, I'm not even walking to the door.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkUNokNnD38

My pitbull's barking is all the response a door-to-door salesperson gets.

PuTTY riot
Nov 16, 2002

fknlo posted:

Holy poo poo, leave me alone burglar alarm dealers. I swear to god that at least 5 have stopped by in the week I've been in the house.

vivint? holy poo poo they are pushy. go away, i'm eating dinner you gently caress.

SiGmA_X
May 3, 2004
SiGmA_X
Porch cameras guys. Buy some.

Fancy_Lad
May 15, 2003
Would you like to buy a monkey?
Hell, or just point an old smartphone out the window

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Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

Or just buy a "no solicitors" sign and attach it to your door.

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