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Lucy Heartfilia posted:I also think murder of innocents and beginning unjustified wars is hilarious. somethingawful.txt
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# ? Sep 11, 2014 17:36 |
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archaeo posted:No, but I am pretty convinced that you are one of the most hilarious posters in a hilarious thread! Game recognize game. If Poroshenko's calling for a defensive line to contain the separatists within the Donetsk/Luhansk region, is that it for major offensives at the moment? It's basically conceding defeat in those areas but so long as Russia's willing to roll in whenever Ukrainian forces get too close to the border they're not really winnable anyway. I guess the greater concern is keeping the "rebellion" from spreading to places like Kharkiv and the rest of the coast.
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# ? Sep 11, 2014 17:42 |
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I think the defensive line was for the entire border with Russia. I imagine it's also going to take longer than just a few months to build, so probably won't much with the separatists.
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# ? Sep 11, 2014 18:33 |
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Pimpmust posted:How possible would it be for Ukraine to "tap" into the existing pipeline to Poland? I mean, what's stopping them? Can't remember if there's a seperate pipeline to Poland that avoids Ukraine entirely, but from the sound of some articles that doesn't seem to be the case, or...? I'm pretty sure that would be akin to raiding international shipping, except without the ships and the shooting and the screaming. OK, might be a bad analogy, but you get the point. It wouldn't just anger Russia, it would harm any future deals Ukraine might make with other countries. And anyway, it wouldn't be Russian gas they'd be taking. If it's passing through the pipeline, someone bought it. Whose gas would they take? German? e: There's a pipeline going through Poland.
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# ? Sep 11, 2014 19:31 |
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Yeah, also notice on what part of Ukraine that a portion of Blue Stream/South Stream goes through.
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# ? Sep 11, 2014 19:35 |
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"Brotherhood" sure seems like an appropriate name for a Russian gas pipeline through Ukraine.
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# ? Sep 11, 2014 20:09 |
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The Polish minister of economy claims Gazprom has assured them that tomorrow the supply of gas will be flowing in the ordered amount. Gazprom has admitted to the reduced flow (after being silent for the duration of cuts), but says this was only in relation to recent bigger orders (which Poland did make). And also denied this had any connection to Poland sharing gas with Ukraine. http://www.polskieradio.pl/42/3167/Artykul/1229403,PGNiG-Rosja-zmniejszyla-dostawy-gazu-o-45-proc- Look at the pipeline directly connecting Russia to Germany via the Baltic, bypassing a bunch of EU members in the process. Now that's camaraderie, Germany!
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# ? Sep 11, 2014 20:17 |
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Rinkles posted:Look at the pipeline directly connecting Russia to Germany via the Baltic, bypassing a bunch of EU members in the process. Now that's camaraderie, Germany! Gee, what a pretty pipeline you have there. It'd be a shame if anything happened to it. I'm not saying anything will, only that it'd be a shame if you attack the joint training operations we're holding with the Ukranian navy in the black sea.
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# ? Sep 11, 2014 20:21 |
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Rinkles posted:The Polish minister of economy claims Gazprom has assured them that tomorrow the supply of gas will be flowing in the ordered amount. That new pipeline has been a big deal in Sweden, what with running so close to Gotland. As for tapping the line I didn't think it was all that realistic but angering the EU might not have been such a big deal, if they were sending gas Ukraines way anyways. And this way they'd get to troll Russia some too. What's the worst that could happen, Russia invades Ukraine? (They totally would )
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# ? Sep 11, 2014 20:34 |
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Hambilderberglar posted:http://antikor.com.ua/articles/13410-igorj_girkin_strelkov_najden_mertvym_v_rossii Remember how Ukrainians in August claimed he was critically wounded in a clash in Donetsk,and then the Russians denied it, saying he had been relieved and given a desk job in the DPR. You haven't heard a word about him since then, and I've wondered if he didn't die of his injuries and they're just now saying something.
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# ? Sep 11, 2014 21:05 |
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HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:Remember how Ukrainians in August claimed he was critically wounded in a clash in Donetsk,and then the Russians denied saying he had been relieved and given a desk job in the DPR. You haven't heard a word about him since then, and I've wondered if he didn't die of his injuries and they're just now saying something. He was given a desk job at the Official Embassy of DPR in Jewish Autonomous Oblast.
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# ? Sep 11, 2014 21:06 |
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Bit of a weird demotion for such a prominent figure. If Russia shuts off the gas to Ukraine this winter, I have to wonder if they might not throttle the gas to the rest of Europe anyway and claim Ukraine's siphoning it even if they aren't. It seems like an easy way to get the rest of Europe mad at Ukraine and it's obviously pretty hard to verify - at this point gas seems to be all the EU cares about, moreso than hundreds of citizens getting shot out of the sky. Honestly, with the dominant role gas has played in this crisis I think we all owe the United States an apology for claiming they're oil-hungry money-grubbing imperialists, as though that were somehow not the norm.
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# ? Sep 11, 2014 21:25 |
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Dolash posted:Bit of a weird demotion for such a prominent figure. I was about to knee-jerk reaction and say that sounds too much like a bad super villain plot then actual foreign policy, but then I remembered everything that's happened in the last year, so who knows?
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# ? Sep 11, 2014 21:29 |
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GhostofJohnMuir posted:I was about to knee-jerk reaction and say that sounds too much like a bad super villain plot then actual foreign policy, but then I remembered everything that's happened in the last year, so who knows? Why do you think EU members are begging American legislators to repeal our ban on oil exports?
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# ? Sep 11, 2014 21:30 |
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Dolash posted:Bit of a weird demotion for such a prominent figure. Has Russia resumed gas supplies to Ukraine? They cut it off in June.
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# ? Sep 11, 2014 21:36 |
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Russian gas power sounds like a good reason to invest in domestic nuclear energy.
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# ? Sep 11, 2014 21:53 |
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My Imaginary GF posted:He was given a desk job at the Official Embassy of DPR in Jewish Autonomous Oblast. Uuuugh...if anybody needs proof that Stalin was a raging anti-Semite, you need only see pictures of that place. It's amazing to me that anybody still lives there.
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# ? Sep 11, 2014 22:11 |
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El Scotch posted:Russian gas power sounds like a good reason to invest in domestic nuclear energy. Too bad Germany and others flipped out because of Fukishima and started scrapping all their nuclear energy plans.
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# ? Sep 11, 2014 22:35 |
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Wee Tinkle Wand posted:Too bad Germany and others flipped out because of Fukishima and started scrapping all their nuclear energy plans. Nah Germany had that whole idiot movement going on for a much longer time.
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# ? Sep 11, 2014 22:38 |
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Nintendo Kid posted:Nah Germany had that whole idiot movement going on for a much longer time. It went back and forth a bit, but Fukushima finally convinced Merkel to shut everything down after all.
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# ? Sep 11, 2014 22:41 |
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El Scotch posted:Russian gas power sounds like a good reason to invest in domestic nuclear energy. Your preaching to the choir here friend. If there is one thing D&D can mostly agree too its that nuclear power is pretty good if done well.
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# ? Sep 11, 2014 22:45 |
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Lucy Heartfilia posted:It went back and forth a bit, but Fukushima finally convinced Merkel to shut everything down after all. This'll bite them in the rear end in twenty years when they want to go back and realize it's not as easy as just refuelling the reactors. Meanwhile I wonder what Russia's gameplan is for loving with European gas supplies this 'early' in the crisis. That's been their major leverage against Europe and if they start goofing around with it now, doesn't it just risk Europe reciprocating more severely, rather than backing down? One thing I wonder: I know that the major credit companies(Visa, etc) have some presence in Russia - and that they've already been used to leverage some banks. How bad does it get for the average Russian if those american/international companies just shut down processing completely in Russia? Is it like in America, where literally anybody with a bank account has a card for these services, or in Russia is it a minority/elite thing? Cuntpunch fucked around with this message at 22:51 on Sep 11, 2014 |
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Cuntpunch posted:This'll bite them in the rear end in twenty years when they want to go back and realize it's not as easy as just refuelling the reactors. Russia is well-known as an international funding source of anti-fracking campaigns and fracking environmental research. They aren't opposed to fracking or nuclear power generation; Russia is opposed to energy independence from Russian sources.
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# ? Sep 11, 2014 22:53 |
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Lawman 0 posted:Your preaching to the choir here friend. Yeah, and even when NOT done well, it's at least containable if you have a drat shell around it. But everyone thinks every nuclear reactor is built like Chernobyl.
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# ? Sep 11, 2014 23:14 |
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This needs to be brought up, because essentially this Estonian police officer is going to prison for a long time. http://news.yahoo.com/russia-charges-estonian-policeman-espionage-134210621.html quote:Moscow (AFP) - An Estonian policeman detained by Russian security services has been charged with espionage in a case that has sent tensions soaring between Moscow and its small NATO-member neighbour.
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# ? Sep 11, 2014 23:16 |
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I wonder what the response would be if Estonia kidnapped a Russian border agent and claimed he was a spy too, then offered a prisoner exchange?
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# ? Sep 11, 2014 23:39 |
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Cuntpunch posted:This'll bite them in the rear end in twenty years when they want to go back and realize it's not as easy as just refuelling the reactors. In twenty years we have all the geothermal powerplants we'll ever need. Also we can then use them to handily solve all of our problems with Russia, too: We just have to make sure all our accidentally produced earthquakes are hitting Russia instead of us. (Yes, some types of geothermal powerplants can provoke earthquakes. Still less problematic than a nuclear GAU, of course. )
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# ? Sep 11, 2014 23:41 |
Dolash posted:I wonder what the response would be if Estonia kidnapped a Russian border agent and claimed he was a spy too, then offered a prisoner exchange?
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# ? Sep 11, 2014 23:41 |
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To be fair Finlander does turn Putin criticism into a truly bad pantomime
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# ? Sep 11, 2014 23:44 |
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My Imaginary GF posted:He was given a desk job at the Official Embassy of DPR in Jewish Autonomous Oblast. He's needed there in case they need an insurgency/counterinsurgency expert to handle Siberian separatists.
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# ? Sep 11, 2014 23:48 |
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Cat Mattress posted:
You can lol if you want but 13% taxes in rubles is really more expensive than 15% in hrivna. And this only one factor that makes Makarevich rear end burning like a blast furnace. The second factor is... who do you think gave Makarevich all his business and all real estates in Crimea? $)
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# ? Sep 11, 2014 23:58 |
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Young Freud posted:He's needed there in case they need an insurgency/counterinsurgency expert to handle Siberian separatists. Hm, those Siberian nationalists were sent to the Official Embassy of PDRU located in Kiev. Due to transit difficulties, they have been provided a ride in secure vehicles that will ensure their security from any attempted homosexual nazis attack during transit. This current MLRS exchange? Its all a mix-up in Russian transit timetables. Apologies will be given at a service held in the seat of the Orthodox Patriarch of Greater Moscow District. Anyone wishing to receive apology and full compensation must present themselves to Patriarchy in person. My Imaginary GF fucked around with this message at 00:03 on Sep 12, 2014 |
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TeodorMorozov posted:You can lol if you want but 13% taxes in rubles is really more expensive than 15% in hrivna. And this only one factor that makes Makarevich rear end burning like a blast furnace. The second factor is... who do you think gave Makarevich all his business and all real estates in Crimea? $) Can you try writing something coherent here, ivan?
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# ? Sep 12, 2014 00:02 |
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TeodorMorozov posted:You can lol if you want but 13% taxes in rubles is really more expensive than 15% in hrivna. How does that work? Are they using two different exchange rates between rubles and hryvnia?
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# ? Sep 12, 2014 00:12 |
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HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:This needs to be brought up, because essentially this Estonian police officer is going to prison for a long time. Given how Savchenko "trial" has been going, there is little reason to expect justice (at best, a just outcome in service of political expediency).
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# ? Sep 12, 2014 00:15 |
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Cat Mattress posted:How does that work? Are they using two different exchange rates between rubles and hryvnia? Either the tax value of the property has been suddenly inflated or there is some kind of highly skewed official conversion rate that overvalues the ruble relative to the hryvnia.
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# ? Sep 12, 2014 00:49 |
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Kopijeger posted:Either the tax value of the property has been suddenly inflated or there is some kind of highly skewed official conversion rate that overvalues the ruble relative to the hryvnia. A little of both, maybe? Perhaps merely accurate levying of tax on the property whereas it was mostly exempt before?
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# ? Sep 12, 2014 00:59 |
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Maybe he's assuming that the bank that holds the funds he pays his taxes out of holds his currency in hryvnia and every time he pays his taxes, the bank takes a 2%+ currency conversion fee out of the transaction? But that only makes sense if he does the stupidest thing possible and never exchanges a single hryvnia into rubles until he needs it, and then just converts the exact sum he needs for that transaction.
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# ? Sep 12, 2014 01:35 |
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seems someone caught a lucky break via https://twitter.com/ISNJH/status/510228320227975168
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# ? Sep 12, 2014 01:56 |
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Canadian Surf Club posted:seems someone caught a lucky break Yikes. Wonder what the dud rate on those are. Any Eastern Europeans kind enough to translate this report? http://ria.ru/society/20140910/1023528929.html
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