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you can't fire a gun with no hands. well, you could, but it'd be significantly more difficult
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R. Mute posted:you can't fire a gun with no hands. I can get behind a 'guns don't kill people, hands kill people' campaign. Stranglings, stabbings shootings, all hand related, stricter hand control is needed.
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Sep 11, 2014 21:18
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R. Mute posted:you can't fire a gun with no hands. Yes, that was the thought process of the Belgian Civil Service as well. It turns out, yes, Virginia, enough individuals in the Belgian Congo could fire guns without hands to smash the bosh.
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Sep 11, 2014 21:18
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I'm reading this history of the U.N. and some of the anecdotes I swear I've specifically seems before, like how the Belgians didn't train more than a dozen or so university graduates in Congo so the country never had a real administration.
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Sep 11, 2014 21:22
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Vivian Darkbloom posted:I'm reading this history of the U.N. and some of the anecdotes I swear I've specifically seems before, like how the Belgians didn't train more than a dozen or so university graduates in Congo so the country never had a real administration.
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Sep 11, 2014 21:31
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Raskolnikov38 posted:Except if you don't, you've just left a large soviet force alone which can then charge forward to Rostov on Don and cut off army group A completely. Eh, the Soviet resistance in the region wasn't nearly as organized as it came to be (e: indeed, Stalin thought Case Blue was a ruse), and definitely block-able. Had the Germans not made a bee-line towards Stalingrad, the Soviets would have had to pursue them into the Caucasus, and that would have been sucky. The German supply line might have been cut off, but once Army Group South tapped into the oil fields, that wouldn't have been as much of a problem. Even if they felt like destroying Stalingrad's industrial capacity was a top objective that couldn't wait, that didn't require actually attempting to occupy the city. e: And yes, Army Group South was running out of fuel when it got to that point, but that's hardly the time to be splitting up your army and having half of it try to occupy a major city head-on. e2: Bottom line - Hitler was a taaaaaard. Jerry Manderbilt posted:Would Hitler have accepted any concessions though? They don't call it the War of Annihilation for nothing. Probably not, but it's always interesting to think about what strategies would and wouldn't have worked, if Germany was to have any hope of winning. Majorian fucked around with this message at 22:05 on Sep 11, 2014 |
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Sep 11, 2014 21:51
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Majorian posted:Probably not, but it's always interesting to think about what strategies would and wouldn't have worked, if Germany was to have any hope of winning. I'm waiting for Ukraine to de-classify details of Stalin's Summer '43 proposal.
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Sep 11, 2014 21:59
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My Imaginary GF posted:I'm waiting for Ukraine to de-classify details of Stalin's Summer '43 proposal. Are you referring to the tentative peace talks between the USSR, Germany, and Japan?
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Sep 11, 2014 22:03
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Sep 11, 2014 22:08
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Guys do you think the Lippstadt league might have succeeded if Prince Braunshweig had been a little less full of himself, and also if Reinhard died or something idk
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Sep 11, 2014 22:13
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SedanChair posted:Guys do you think the Lippstadt league might have succeeded if Prince Braunshweig had been a little less full of himself, and also if Reinhard died or something idk yes, especially if he vanquished vlad the impaler first
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Sep 11, 2014 22:14
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SedanChair posted:Guys do you think the Lippstadt league might have succeeded if Prince Braunshweig had been a little less full of himself, and also if Reinhard died or something idk No, their opponent was just too dreamy.  Oh Reinhard-sama...
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Sep 11, 2014 22:22
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R. Mute posted:it wasn't really intended to cripple a congolese state, that was just a lucky coincidence. belgium never invested heavily into a congolese education system and left this to catholic missionaries - partially as an overflow of domestic policies wrt schools (some of the major political crises in belgium were about the state/catholic school divide) and partially a leftover from when congo was a personal fiefdom of leopold ii when it was all about extracting and not about investing. considering that the original belgian plan was to grant independence somewhere after the eighties, they didn't really plan for the problems of immediate independence because reality is overrated. It seems like almost all the colonial administrators just assumed that they could hold on till 1975 or whatever, yeah
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Sep 11, 2014 22:25
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SedanChair posted:Guys do you think the Lippstadt league might have succeeded if Prince Braunshweig had been a little less full of himself, and also if Reinhard died or something idk I had to Google these names because I've never seen Legend of Galactic Heroes, but now I think I should. Especially since the Empire in question is ruled by a dynasty called the Goldenbaums. They're even controlling MAH ANIME!!! 
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Sep 11, 2014 22:29
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It's garbage, like all anime.
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Sep 11, 2014 22:29
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Vivian Darkbloom posted:It seems like almost all the colonial administrators just assumed that they could hold on till 1975 or whatever, yeah Their calculations did not include accurate projections of Soviet and Chinese logistical operations. E: Majorian posted:Are you referring to the tentative peace talks between the USSR, Germany, and Japan?  The real reason Russia is driving towards the Ukranian State Security Archives.
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Sep 11, 2014 22:30
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My Imaginary GF posted:
Boy, that is a long con on their part; can't fault them on patience or commitment to a long-term strategy. zoux posted:It's garbage, like all anime. Anime is like musical theater to me - I'm absolutely crazy for a handful of examples, and absolutely despise the rest. That said, the characters in Legend of the Galactic Heroes have hair that could only be described as ~kawaii~.
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Sep 11, 2014 22:33
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Majorian posted:Boy, that is a long con on their part; can't fault them on patience or commitment to a long-term strategy. Russia plays geopolitical chess whereas the west plays geopolitical poker.
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Sep 11, 2014 22:35
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Majorian posted:Anime is like musical theater to me - I'm absolutely crazy for a handful of examples, and absolutely despise the rest. That said, the characters in Legend of the Galactic Heroes have hair that could only be described as ~kawaii~. It's really good if you like people discussing political philosophy, economics and military strategy while static fleets slowly blow each other up, which I do because I'm a monstrous human being. In my opinion it is the definitive Space Opera.
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Sep 11, 2014 22:41
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SedanChair posted:Guys do you think the Lippstadt league might have succeeded if Prince Braunshweig had been a little less full of himself, and also if Reinhard died or something idk they would all have needed to be less full of themselves as whatever successes merkatz might have had were sabotaged by his subordinates' lack of discipline
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Sep 11, 2014 22:42
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Is this the place to share 9/11 memories? I remember hearing about it just before I left for high school, and by the time I was at school the towers had gone from struck to falling down. This was El Paso, so everyone was terrified of some kind of follow-up attack on Fort Bliss. I remember people seriously worried about nuclear bombs, which strikes me as kind of funny now. And then there were the fake Nostradamus email forwards, the flag car decals, weeks upon weeks of seeing the second plane hit on CNN, shopping so the terrorists wouldn't win, and everyone losing their goddamn minds.
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Sep 11, 2014 22:42
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GhostofJohnMuir posted:It's really good if you like people discussing political philosophy, economics and military strategy while static fleets slowly blow each other up, which I do because I'm a monstrous human being. In my opinion it is the definitive Space Opera. Holy poo poo, how have I not seen this? (and yet have somehow seen the "Fatal Fury" anime movie...)
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Sep 11, 2014 22:43
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Majorian posted:Holy poo poo, how have I not seen this? (and yet have somehow seen the "Fatal Fury" anime movie...) Because you know the truth, that anime is for poors and social individuals who wish to see giant battles while philosiphizing on existential questions go to the opera. Bingo, spot-on. \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ My Imaginary GF fucked around with this message at 22:49 on Sep 11, 2014 |
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Sep 11, 2014 22:45
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It's really not good. Like all anime the dialog is mostly expository and stilted and the "philosophizing" that people rave about rarely rises above college freshmen smoking weed level.
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Sep 11, 2014 22:48
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Cheekio posted:There's got to be some good math about how socially connected the US citizens are so that the minimum number of deaths results in the greatest amount of personal connections to the tragedy. Like imagine you're playing 6 degrees of Kevin Bacon, but instead you're playing how big did 9/11 have to be before every American is 2 degrees from it. vietnam's probably close to the lower bound (~58k dead) in that most everyone from the generational cohort who went there knew someone who died whereas iraq/afghanistan you might know someone who served but not necessarily someone who died there
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zoux posted:Like all anime the dialog is mostly expository and stilted and the "philosophizing" that people rave about rarely rises above college freshmen smoking weed level. Not really surprising that it gets celebrated when you consider that every action or crime movie where the protagonist roughs up somebody got interpretated as a deep commentary on American torture practises by "critics".
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Sep 11, 2014 22:51
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Erm I think LGH came out way before that?
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Sep 11, 2014 22:52
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zoux posted:Erm I think LGH came out way before that? My point is that people always seem very eager to wank themselves off over what they perceive to be deep commentary in entertainment media. The torture thing was merely an example.
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Sep 11, 2014 22:53
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Oh no LGH was very much trying to do the deep philosophy thing it just failed at it unless you are an idiot weaboo.
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Sep 11, 2014 22:54
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It's me, I sprung the trap Ur-trap sprung
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SedanChair posted:It's me, I sprung the trap An avowed communist springing a trap using Japanese culture? Gentlemen, I do believe this is how America became involved in two wars.
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Sep 11, 2014 22:56
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zoux posted:It's really not good. Like all anime the dialog is mostly expository and stilted and the "philosophizing" that people rave about rarely rises above college freshmen smoking weed level. It certainly is pretty stilted, though I don't know about all anime being that way. And yeah, it isn't some deep treatise on any topic it covers, at one point the idea of a defeat in detail is introduced and it blows some Rear Admirals mind, but it's still more thoughtful, or at least more upfront about it's thoughts, than most of the stuff you'll see outside of books. I think it can still be worth watching though, it's up to your personal preference.
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On the topic of anime, Ghost in the Shell is a deeply compelling inspection of Masamune Shirow's interest in lesbians getting it on with each other.
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Sep 11, 2014 22:59
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It's giant spaceships shooting each other set to Wagnerian opera. I'm not sure why you're looking for a post-doctoral thesis; it is thoroughly enjoyable for what it is.
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Sep 11, 2014 23:01
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Statement: people often incorrectly label a work as allegory when at most it contains symbolic language sounds or images.
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i basically look at it as animated space game of thrones but less creepy and less of a ridiculous goddamn mess
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My Imaginary GF posted:Because you know the truth, that anime is for poors and social individuals who wish to see giant battles while philosiphizing on existential questions go to the opera. Can we have opera chat? Because I loving love opera. "Les Contes d'Hoffmann" is my favorite.
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Sep 11, 2014 23:09
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Majorian posted:Can we have opera chat? Because I loving love opera. "Les Contes d'Hoffmann" is my favorite. Oh god yes. I've got to find my correapondance with Havel over Wozzeck while imprisoned by the Soviets now.
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haveblue posted:Not for nothing is "never get involved in a land war in asia" the most famous of the classic blunders 
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I keep hoping Bryn Terfel will do something with the LA or SF opera. I sing baritone-bass so that elephant seal-human hybrid is my hero.
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