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neetengie posted:Unban BBE, unban Jace and let the meta figure it out. I assume this was a facetious post but Caleb Durward actually just addressed the 'unban 'em both!' argument in his most recent column. Namely, the response is that even if the JTMS and BBE deck(s) countered each other, it would be oppressively hard for decks that aren't those two to get a foothold.
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neetengie posted:Flashback drafts!?! Does that mean...cube? Yep, comes back on the 17th.
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Holy poo poo the MTGO calendar of events stuff on the wotc website is AWFUL.
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JerryLee posted:I assume this was a facetious post but Caleb Durward actually just addressed the 'unban 'em both!' argument in his most recent column. Namely, the response is that even if the JTMS and BBE deck(s) countered each other, it would be oppressively hard for decks that aren't those two to get a foothold. JTMS is getting unbanned on the first of never. They seem to really dislike Brainstorm-type effects. Pyronic posted:Holy poo poo MTGO/the wotc website is AWFUL. Edited for clarity.
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JerryLee posted:I assume this was a facetious post but Caleb Durward actually just addressed the 'unban 'em both!' argument in his most recent column. Namely, the response is that even if the JTMS and BBE deck(s) countered each other, it would be oppressively hard for decks that aren't those two to get a foothold. Attorney at Funk posted:Yep, comes back on the 17th. So how do Flashback drafts work in general?
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Sep 12, 2014 08:28
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Angry Grimace posted:next week is Tempest block flashback drafts Well, I'm glad I saved up $150 in tickets. I'm drafting until I have my Wastelands. It seems less likely that I'll get my Lili of the Veils in the Innistrad drafts.
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Sep 12, 2014 08:48
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suicidesteve posted:Well, I'm glad I saved up $150 in tickets. I'm drafting until I have my Wastelands. It seems less likely that I'll get my Lili of the Veils in the Innistrad drafts. Keep in mind that due to the excessive (by modern standards) number of uncommons, Wasteland is about as likely to show up in a given pack as any recent small-set rare. I mean, yeah it's more likely than opening your Lilianas, but drafting enough to get a compete playset would probably take a while.
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Jabor posted:Keep in mind that due to the excessive (by modern standards) number of uncommons, Wasteland is about as likely to show up in a given pack as any recent small-set rare. Well I figure I'm owed something by the RNG gods after ~25 VMA drafts gave me exactly 0 pieces of power, 1 Badlands (which was passed to me,) a Mana Drain, and a Jace.
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Sep 12, 2014 09:06
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suicidesteve posted:Well I figure I'm owed something by the RNG gods after ~25 VMA drafts gave me exactly 0 pieces of power, 1 Badlands (which was passed to me,) a Mana Drain, and a Jace. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambler%27s_fallacy
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Sep 12, 2014 09:15
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Rinkles posted:There was a Jace in VMA?
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Sep 12, 2014 09:30
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 This was my first deck and is a pretty good reason why I'm fond of Invasion block/GW  PTQ this weekend, here's hoping I don't lose my win-and-in this time around.
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Frozen_flame posted:
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Sep 12, 2014 13:10
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Am I missing something? I know Tarmogoyf is a strong and ridiculously expensive card but what's notable about some guy having a playset of them? EDIT: Oh. White borders. That's... nice I guess?
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Sep 12, 2014 13:11
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Pyronic posted:Holy poo poo ftfy
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Sep 12, 2014 13:12
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Someone took the trouble of turning their borders white. Some players don't like the look of white borders, and there's also a stigma associated with them because they used to be how Wizards indicated sets of reprinted cards (like the pre M10 core sets.)
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Sep 12, 2014 13:13
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Not to mention the loss in value because they "destroyed" the cards.
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Sep 12, 2014 13:57
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You could say that about a lot of alters.
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Sep 12, 2014 14:01
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I'm wondering how viable Rabble Red will be with the one-drop Prowess creature after rotation; it would be a cheap deck to build while you wait for prices to drop.
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Sleep of Bronze posted:Someone took the trouble of turning their borders white. Some players don't like the look of white borders, and there's also a stigma associated with them because they used to be how Wizards indicated sets of reprinted cards (like the pre M10 core sets.) Well I think white borders are sexy. 
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Sep 12, 2014 14:15
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bhsman posted:I'm wondering how viable Rabble Red will be with the one-drop Prowess creature after rotation; it would be a cheap deck to build while you wait for prices to drop. I don't think that one drop with Prowess is good enough to replace Legion Loyalist in that deck. But there will be a Rabblemaster aggro deck. I just don't think it will be mono red.
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Sep 12, 2014 14:17
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I KNEW i should have preordered butcher of the horde yesterday for 5 bucks.
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Sep 12, 2014 14:29
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Sickening posted:I KNEW i should have preordered butcher of the horde yesterday for 5 bucks. I almost did but I figured a week after release he'll be at that price range anyway. $5 seems right for that guy since he'll be in every mardu deck, but he wont go as high as desecration demon did since he cant be used in as many decks.
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Sep 12, 2014 14:36
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mcmagic posted:I don't think that one drop with Prowess is good enough to replace Legion Loyalist in that deck. But there will be a Rabblemaster aggro deck. I just don't think it will be mono red. You may be right but that is my plan for now. The basic is something like 4 haste prowess guy 4 firedrinker satyr 4 foundry street denizen 4 2 drop raid 3/2 guy 4 rabblemaster 4 lightning strike 4 titan strength 2-4 searing blood 2-4 3 drop make 3 gob's thingy lands It is a work in progress, but it'll be serviceable for FNM, if not a SCG Open contender until I get the stuff I want together for Temur ramp.
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I have a hard time believing any non mythic aside from the fetches will beat $10 until the summer. Fetches are going to put a lot of downward pressure on other rares. Rav had deathrite, abrupt and ?? both multi format all stars that have hovered around there. I haven't seen any cards that jump out quite so much. Keep in mind too that this set rotates 6 months sooner than usual.
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neetengie posted:This is pretty accurate. I think it is pretty meta dependent on which you bring, Jund, Junk or The Rock. If you have pieces to make them, why not just look around the place and scout out who's playing what? I probably will, it's mostly a question of which one I sleeve up before I arrive in case I don't have time to switch. suicidesteve posted:Jund has an absolutely horrendous mana base. And somehow, people see Courser as an actual card that should be in the deck, which is not a thing I'll ever agree with. But you do get the better cards in Anger, Bolt, Terminate, Chandra, Jund Charm, etc. I've seen the same problems with Jund's mana base as well, but I'm curious why you're down on Courser? In a grindy midrange deck, being able to control your draws with Courser & fetches, life gain, and making land drops seem like they're worth revealing your draws. Also, I've noticed Coursers draw removal that my opponents should be saving for Bob or Ooze. I haven't seen a lot of Pod around, but I have seen a lot of aggro and combo decks (Affinity, Scapeshift), as well as Jund itself.
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I doubt it'll be good enough to be a thing; but Raid works really well with Prophetic Flamespeaker (and since I bought four before M15 and the Rabblemaster, I quite like that little guy). I really hope there's going to be a second cheap red raid guy for that.
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1r 2/1 Raid: you may play this guy during the combat phase if a creature had attacked thus turn, it comes into play tapped and attacking if played during the combat phase Good or bad? You can play it after blocks so you get in for 2. I know the formatting is not correct
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Molybdenum posted:I have a hard time believing any non mythic aside from the fetches will beat $10 until the summer. Fetches are going to put a lot of downward pressure on other rares. Rav had deathrite, abrupt and ?? both multi format all stars that have hovered around there. I haven't seen any cards that jump out quite so much. Keep in mind too that this set rotates 6 months sooner than usual. Rest in Peace is very Legacy playable as well, and I know Supreme Verdict is seeing a bit of play.
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Molybdenum posted:1r I'm pretty sure that putting an attacker in after blocks have been declared is a gigantic headache that Wizards don't want to get into.
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Sep 12, 2014 14:57
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Are we not getting the full spoiler today? Isn't that how these things usually work?
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Serperoth posted:Rest in Peace is very Legacy playable as well, and I know Supreme Verdict is seeing a bit of play. Yeah but those aren't over 10. Were they at release/during rav block? Reckoner was over 10 for awhile. Verdict was the BaB though so that probably put some downward pressure on it.
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Sickening posted:I KNEW i should have preordered butcher of the horde yesterday for 5 bucks. You still can! http://shop.tcgplayer.com/magic/khans-of-tarkir/butcher-of-the-horde
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I went with Channel fireball instead. Spent half of what I would have spent on a box while getting most of the stuff I am probably going to play for this set. Waiting on fetches when they drop in price.
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Molybdenum posted:Yeah but those aren't over 10. Were they at release/during rav block? Reckoner was over 10 for awhile. Verdict was the BaB though so that probably put some downward pressure on it. I don't know, I was just mentioning RtR rares playable in eternal formats (and Modern, which also loves shocklands). I think it's almost impossible that fetches will retain their price, considering it's five cards (not just one) and are VERY much wanted in those formats, and this will help other cards go down in price (as you mentioned). Even mythics I believe will be cheaper than usual. Maybe not  , but Elspeth's TCG mid price is already ~20 bucks, I think she'd easily be sub-20 in a set with fetches.
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Sickening posted:I went with Channel fireball instead. Spent half of what I would have spent on a box while getting most of the stuff I am probably going to play for this set. Waiting on fetches when they drop in price. CFB is like 25% higher on singles than TCG...
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The Lord of Hats posted:I'm pretty sure that putting an attacker in after blocks have been declared is a gigantic headache that Wizards don't want to get into. Yeah, you could just do "Raid: When ~ enters the battlefield, if a creature attacked this turn, tap ~ and deal damage equal to its power to target opponent"
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Skillface posted:Are we not getting the full spoiler today? Isn't that how these things usually work? We are but it doesn't go up until 8:00 am Pacific.
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awesomebrah posted:We are but it doesn't go up until 8:00 am Pacific. Right, thanks!
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